OT:LET'S GO METS
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Plenty of blown opportunities? They only got three hits. Six baserunners in total. Only one in scoring position, and that was with two outs. The problem was not blown opportunities. The problem was not enough opportunities created.
That said, there is no blame. In the play in question, to have the pull-side infielder hold his position and the off-side infielder cover second, is the standard and correct play.
I know that this will sound like pre-emptive sour grapes, but the best of five series format with two off days really works in the Dodgers favor. The format negates the Mets biggest strength, which is depth of starting pitching. And it accentuates the Dodgers strength, which is top-end quality starting pitching.
I can't argue that the setup is different than the regular season but it is what it is. Playing 3 games in a row in the regular season doesn't happen in the post season but this has been the playoffs schedule forever. As we saw in the Cubs game the playoffs are as much about the bullpen as the starters.
Mets still have a great chance. DeGrom pitching game 5
Taking an early lead, and hopefully taking the home crowd out of the mix, sure would help. Both pitchers are amazing with a slight edge to DeGrom. The Mets have the better lineup, so I like our chances in a real nail-biter.
Not if Wright and Duda are going to create two gaping holes in it. Seems like the most we can hope for out of either right now is managing to foul off enough pitches to work a walk. I actually couldn't believe it when in game 3 Mattingly intentionally walked Wright in front of Murphy who of course promptly got a hit right before Cespedes upper deck blast. I was like thanks Don.
It's funny you say that, as a player we all knew collectively we had no chance on certain days, and thats a line up with Willie Stargell, Bill Madlock, Dave Parker, Manny Sanguillen, Mike Easler and Lee Lacy to name a few …we would say "their manager has to do something stupid to give us a chance"
Curious- what made you guys think that? The opposing pitcher? Slumps? I remember those teams. They were damn good and if the wildcard existed back then they may have made the playoffs more times. I remember the Phillies being their nemesis.
That and I question how his back is. If he's playing in as much pain as I'm starting to think he is, he needs to take the high road and let Kelly Johnson in for him. He can come off the bench if the Mets need him.
Watching him move around, I don't see him in pain. What gives you that impression?
Amen to that,
When he was healthy he was un-hittable.
Unfortunately, that was not to often, and the very good pitcher you saw was about half what he could have been if he could have pitched pain free.
Basically, his range seems more limited than his career norm. The other thing is when he's been seated at the press conferences he wriggles around like someone who's back is not 100%. Maybe I'm reading into things too much.
The sitting should actually help stenosis...as should bending over (think of your spine...you actually want to be able to open it up to free the nerves). @vkj91 can talk about this in much more expertise than I can.
I would guess he's going to have a laminectomy at some point...
Tomorrow should be one of those classic games and I think the Mets are owed one since the umps stole game 2 from them.
I love having Conforto in the lineup. I think this lefty/righty thing with him is ridiculous. He's done fine against lefties and will continue to improve with more opportunities. And even a lefty/lefty Conforto is better than having Cuddyer. At least Lagares has now replaced Cuddyer, which is a better more.
Tomorrow will likely come down to pitch counts and the bullpen. The Mets need to somehow drive up Groenke's pitch count to get him out of the game. If deGromm leaves the game, depending on when it is, it'll be interesting to see what Collins does. WOuld he consider putting in Syndeguuard?
I love having Conforto in the lineup. I think this lefty/righty thing with him is ridiculous. He's done fine against lefties and will continue to improve with more opportunities. And even a lefty/lefty Conforto is better than having Cuddyer. At least Lagares has now replaced Cuddyer, which is a better more.
Tomorrow will likely come down to pitch counts and the bullpen. The Mets need to somehow drive up Groenke's pitch count to get him out of the game. If deGromm leaves the game, depending on when it is, it'll be interesting to see what Collins does. WOuld he consider putting in Syndeguuard?
Agreed on Conforto and Lagares. I like Cuddyer's spirit and knowledge and clubhouse leadership, but he's not the answer right now unfortunately.
Tomorrow, they will throw the kitchen sink out there if needed. I'd say anyone other than Matz is an option including Syndergaard, Harvey and Colon. (Terry Collins insists Harvey is off limits though.) Familia has appeared 3 times, but his pitch counts are very low so you know he can give you some outs if needed. The real key is will the Mets score some runs?
Completely intangible.
It's a collective feel that you can't explain, but if you play long enough you just know. In our day if there was two strong pitchers involved and both teams were going down with minimal pitches the game would barely last two hours
Terry Collins just said it's already been a great season, and tonight's game if won, is just gravy. Are you frigging kidding me Terry? It's not like the Mets get here every other year.
This is Terry covering his ass and setting expectations low to take pressure off himself. It's also the attitude that will contribute to losing this game.
PS: The Mets should have had home field for '88 and '86 to boot - thanks for nothing Oilers/Bears. It's like how is something like this even possible:
"Home field advantage, from 1969 to 1993, alternated between division winners, regardless of record. The Mets were to have home field advantage for this series, as the Dodgers (the 1985 NL West Champions) had it the previous year, however, a regular season game between the Chicago Bears and Houston Oilers made the Astrodome unavailable for October 12. Consequently, Games 1, 2, 6, and 7, were scheduled for the Astrodome to avoid conflicts."
"Home field advantage, from 1969 to 1993, alternated between division winners, regardless of record. The Mets were to have home field advantage for this series, as the Dodgers (the 1985 NL West Champions) had it the previous year, however, a regular season game between the Chicago Bears and Houston Oilers made the Astrodome unavailable for October 12. Consequently, Games 1, 2, 6, and 7, were scheduled for the Astrodome to avoid conflicts."
I think the key to winning this game tonight is to work the counts deep tonight against Greinke. Unless he gets touched up early he could easily go another seven innings tonight. He's got a lot to play for his team, and Donnie Baseballs job. I can't see Mattingly being retained if they lose tonight.
- I don't think it was that horrible when I recall how Hershisher was throwing that year. He was just unhittable at the time. Sort of like Mike Scott two years earlier. Difference is there was no game 7 for Scott to pitch in. The home run by Mike Scioscia was really the soul crusher in that series to me.
Wright and Duda are 2 big holes in the middle of the order. How many times are they going to make an out at key times?
Bad job by Cespedes. Infield in. Have to just focus on solid contact there, not a long ball. Then Duda just being Duda. Murphy is the Mets most reliable situational hitter by far and he may well be in his final day(s) as a Met.
Looks like the Dodgers have a gameplan going in. Every ball hit the opposite way so far except the ball by Gonzalez. Guess the Mets hitters have a plan so far too. Just swing from their heels and usually miss.
This ump isn't giving anything on the black. If it's not a pure strike, he's not calling it. The Dodgers understand this and are working the count into their favor. It's allowing them to sit on their pitch. Meanwhile, the Mets are hacking away at anything even if it's not close to the plate. Not every swing has to be a homerun.
Wright 4-25 in 2006 NLCS. 1-1000 in this years NLDS. Batting Duda fifth cause terry didn't want to hurt his feelings !?!?
TURNER 8-16 so far 8 for friggin 16
TURNER 8-16 so far 8 for friggin 16
I use to be a Wright fan, but the last few years he has never been a guy to make key plays at important times. Duda is hit or miss. He is a streaky player just like his homeruns. As much as I ride Murphy at least he showed up.
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