It works.You're wrong!! I think that was the correct response...
It works.You're wrong!! I think that was the correct response...
Yes, but with a bunch of non-related BS thrown in. White Bus had a point.Page #3 and counting, lol
😡No, veal vs. lamb...
Yeah, but now we’re talking about sex with baby animals. 🙂Page #3 and counting, lol
There has to be a first time for everything. Proud throwing props to me, but it doesn't quite feel genuine - seems more like a way for him to troll WB.
And WB, we should meet up someday, as I'm convinced we'd hit it off fine, even if we argued a little over snow and geography, lol - find me any friends who don't argue over stupid shit. You should see the dumb stuff @mildone and I argue about in real life and in our soccer group post-game coffee on Sunday mornings, we have guys on the left and right screaming at each other after being teammates in the game, but then laughing about it later. The same is likely true for 99% of the people on this board. I'm sure I could also enjoy a beer with Proud and bac and I have celebrated more than a few sports moments together at the RAC.
Not worth rehashing the weather thread here, except for one comment. I did not and never will cherry pick data to try to "win" some point - that's disingenuous and I'm an absolute nut about data integrity. You may not remember this, but I'm the guy who has called out a "trained spotter" from Metuchen for what I'm sure is inflating snow totals by several inches in a couple of big storms, probably inadvertently (measuring in drifts), but inflated nonetheless vs. my measurements (taken 50 yards into a friggin' field to reduce the drifting effect).
No, the US education system was not built at all on Prussian ideas. The US Army was.The education system in US had some roots in Prussian military training - authoritarian.
Factories also wanted pre-fabbed drones for workers.
As a result US people are very expert prone.
If an egg-head from MIT says cow toots are destroying the earth there is a sizable population of suggestible people who will run with that.
A lopsided intellect also makes people more suggestible.
Knowledge is like an elixir for the ego - some people become very aggrandized in their own mind.
Abstract ideas can seem more real than reality
People think they are having thoughts but thoughts are having them.
Hitler drove a nation crazy with appeals to resentment and contrived superiority using "science."
People bought into the fab and lost track track or reality as well as their humanity.
We have the same thing going on now with a maniacal tech cohort with super-inflated egos
Add to that the political and economic pod people and a foul brew is concocting.
Lunatics are talking about nukes and having 3-4 wars going at once (CCP's stated goal for US).
Unfortunately the understanding of human character, moral toxins and psychological decay is not understood the way it was in the past - up now means down and vices versa. The bad guys/gals understand manipulation very well because of totalitarian "study" and practice.
We are doing the 30s/40s all over again - but worse
Churchill:
"The whole fury and might of the enemy must very soon be turned on us. Hitler knows that he will have to break us in this island or lose the war. If we can stand up to him, all Europe may be freed and the life of the world may move forward into broad, sunlit uplands. But if we fail, then the whole world, including the United States, including all that we have known and cared for, will sink into the abyss of a new Dark Age made more sinister, and perhaps more protracted, by the lights of perverted science."
"Perverted science" is the road we are on (throw in history, economics and the rest)
No human being is a national treasure. Cult much?
Yeah.. hoodwinked by the BS conspiracies. Proud Boy NJ needs a vacation.
I'm not sure treasure is the word I would use to describe Musk but it's true that we need guys like him to push ideas ahead because there are ALWAYS headwinds and naysayers when new technologies come along. EVs were moving at a glacial pace until Tesla showed you could make them work and profitably. The irony of Musk is that a lot of right wingers love him for his personal views even as his largest success is EVs, which so many of them still fight against, and a lot of left wingers hate him for his personal views even as his largest success is EVs, and large batteries which are now being used to store green energy, which so many of them champion. Which goes back to "we need people to get past the headwinds." They've always been rare and Musk, unlike Trump, really is a game changer that way.What in the world are you talking about - Misleading on a grand scale?? Like him or not the guy is a national treasure. But you have to keep following the one and only true narrative.
I'm not sure treasure is the word I would use to describe Musk but it's true that we need guys like him to push ideas ahead because there are ALWAYS headwinds and naysayers when new technologies come along. EVs were moving at a glacial pace until Tesla showed you could make them work and profitably. The irony of Musk is that a lot of right wingers love him for his personal views even as his largest success is EVs, which so many of them still fight against, and a lot of left wingers hate him for his personal views even as his largest success is EVs, and large batteries which are now being used to store green energy, which so many of them champion. Which goes back to "we need people to get past the headwinds." They've always been rare and Musk, unlike Trump, really is a game changer that way.
No idea what you're talking about Dunce Cap but you can always be counted on to put up posts that have no substance whatsoever. You're an entirely vapid person, which describes most Golf Course Karen cult followers.Bow to your PARTY Pride Guy.
Get to your knees asap!
I think maybe it was, or at least was derived somewhat from German and certain other European education concepts. The primary purpose was to create compliant citizens with learning reading, writing and math being secondary goals.No, the US education system was not built at all on Prussian ideas. The US Army was.
Just bury me with my favorite sheep please.Well we consider you a treasure. In fact, next year in the Yellow Lot, we're gonna dig a hole and bury you.
No, the US education system was not built at all on Prussian ideas. The US Army was.
Just bury me with my favorite sheep please.
Not at all. But facts are facts - Last year Space X launched more Satellites and had more launches (all reusable and successful) then the rest of the world combined. You may hate him but without Musk and Space X we would be still relying on the Russians and Chinese to launch our satellites.Well we consider you a treasure. In fact, next year in the Yellow Lot, we're gonna dig a hole and bury you.
Treasure is absolutely not the correct word. That kind of cultish adoration for other humans is a very, very bad idea. People who exhibit that sort of thinking are demonstrating evidence of psychological issues. Our nation has a widespread mental health problem right now in how so many people are forming these worshipful attachments to politicians and other public figures.I'm not sure treasure is the word I would use to describe Musk but it's true that we need guys like him to push ideas ahead because there are ALWAYS headwinds and naysayers when new technologies come along. EVs were moving at a glacial pace until Tesla showed you could make them work and profitably. The irony of Musk is that a lot of right wingers love him for his personal views even as his largest success is EVs, which so many of them still fight against, and a lot of left wingers hate him for his personal views even as his largest success is EVs, and large batteries which are now being used to store green energy, which so many of them champion. Which goes back to "we need people to get past the headwinds." They've always been rare and Musk, unlike Trump, really is a game changer that way.
Well that's just mean.I'll make sure to mark the spot with a yellow X.
Hate him? What possible reason would I or anybody else have to hate him? I've never even met him so have a very limited view of him. Thus I have no feelings towards him at all.Not at all. But facts are facts - Last year Space X launched more Satellites and had more launches (all reusable and successful) then the rest of the world combined. You may hate him but without Musk and Space X we would be still relying on the Russians and Chinese to launch our satellites.
I agree that it's shocking how many people even in a democracy show devotion to people instead of ideas and things like the Constitution. Trump worship is terrifying though we've always had people too enamored of the idea of the white knight come to "save the world." It reflects human psychology though: most people connect to people not ideas or objects. FWIW though Musk parachuting in StarLink to the Ukraine has been credited by them for saving their country.Treasure is absolutely not the correct word. That kind of cultish adoration for other humans is a very, very bad idea. People who exhibit that sort of thinking are demonstrating evidence of psychological issues. Our nation has a widespread mental health problem right now in how so many people are forming these worshipful attachments to politicians and other public figures.
A much better, much more healthy example of a national treasure would be our constitution, the importance of which dwarfs the impact any individual could ever have on our national well-being. Our history books tend to glorify certain individuals by promoting their purportedly good deeds while glossing over their imperfections. But some of the most positively impactful people in our nation's history go entirely unnoticed in history books or news/media stories. One obvious example being special forces personnel or intelligence field agents whose work involves daily risk of torture and death.
Is someone really gonna claim Musk, a businessman of no demonstrated selflessness whatsoever, whose efforts are clearly intended to earn him billions of dollars, is more of a national treasure than the individuals who risk their lives, for no personal reward to speak of, to protect our way of life? Give me a break.
I agree we need people like Gates, Jobs, Musk, etc. But national treasure? Not even close.
Yeah, but now we’re talking about sex with baby animals. 🙂
I think maybe it was, or at least was derived somewhat from German and certain other European education concepts. The primary purpose was to create compliant citizens with learning reading, writing and math being secondary goals.
Education has changed a lot since 1843. As with everything else, you're trapped in the past. The focus of the US educational system is very different from what hst it was then. I have a degree in educationMost immigrants were German, Austrian, Prussian and such. While Continental Army was influenced by Baron von Steuben the schools got similar Prussian influence. Horace Mann was the von Steuben of education. Gov takeover of education is tied to Mann
Early 19th-century American educators were also fascinated by German educational trends. In 1818, John Griscom gave a favorable report of Prussian education. English translations were made of French philosopher Victor Cousin's work, Report on the State of Public Education in Prussia. Calvin E. Stowe, Henry Barnard, Horace Mann, George Bancroft and Joseph Cogswell all had a vigorous interest in German education. The Prussian approach was used for example in the Michigan Constitution of 1835, which fully embraced the Prussian system by introducing a range of primary schools, secondary schools, and the University of Michigan itself, all administered by the state and supported with tax-based funding...
In 1843, Mann traveled to Germany to investigate how the educational process worked. Upon his return to the United States, he incorporated his experiences in his advocacy for the common school movement in Massachusetts. Mann persuaded his fellow modernizers, especially those in his Whig Party, to legislate tax-supported elementary public education in their states. New York state soon set up the same method in 12 different schools on a trial basis. Most northern states adopted one version or another of the system he established in Massachusetts, especially the program for "normal schools" to train professional teachers.."
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Ridiculous take. Are you saying Taylor Swift isn’t a national treasure!?Treasure is absolutely not the correct word. That kind of cultish adoration for other humans is a very, very bad idea. People who exhibit that sort of thinking are demonstrating evidence of psychological issues. Our nation has a widespread mental health problem right now in how so many people are forming these worshipful attachments to politicians and other public figures.
A much better, much more healthy example of a national treasure would be our constitution, the importance of which dwarfs the impact any individual could ever have on our national well-being. Our history books tend to glorify certain individuals by promoting their purportedly good deeds while glossing over their imperfections. But some of the most positively impactful people in our nation's history go entirely unnoticed in history books or news/media stories. One obvious example being special forces personnel or intelligence field agents whose work involves daily risk of torture and death.
Is someone really gonna claim Musk, a businessman of no demonstrated selflessness whatsoever, whose efforts are clearly intended to earn him billions of dollars, is more of a national treasure than the individuals who risk their lives, for no personal reward to speak of, to protect our way of life? Give me a break.
I agree we need people like Gates, Jobs, Musk, etc. But national treasure? Not even close.
I’m not bashing Musk. I’m simply pointing out the guy is a businessman, not a saint. He’s as imperfect a human as you or me. Adoration is unwarranted.I agree that it's shocking how many people even in a democracy show devotion to people instead of ideas and things like the Constitution. Trump worship is terrifying though we've always had people too enamored of the idea of the white knight come to "save the world." It reflects human psychology though: most people connect to people not ideas or objects. FWIW though Musk parachuting in StarLink to the Ukraine has been credited by them for saving their country.
The purpose of education was to create an informed populace in a democracy. It was also to bring people of different backgrounds together again for the purpose of democracy. In more recent times, the goal of US education has been to broadly educate all citizens in a similar fashion, which varies greatly from Europe amd elsewhere, where they emphasize early that different kids are headed down different paths: academia, vocational schools, etc.I think maybe it was, or at least was derived somewhat from German and certain other European education concepts. The primary purpose was to create compliant citizens with learning reading, writing and math being secondary goals.
Well, she does selflessly appear in public so the media can take video or photos that we may view her in all her gloriousness. And I’ve come to treasure her effect on her many haters in whose heads she lives rent free.Ridiculous take. Are you saying Taylor Swift isn’t a national treasure!?
Well, I wasn’t there to personally observe the discussions and decisions. So I cannot be certain.The purpose of education was to create an informed populace in a democracy. It was also to bring people of different backgrounds together again for the purpose of democracy. In more recent times, the goal of US education has been to broadly educate all citizens in a similar fashion, which varies greatly from Europe amd elsewhere, where they emphasize early that different kids are headed down different paths: academia, vocational schools, etc.
You're confusing goals with methods. And, in any event, both things can and have changed over 200 years. One of my degrees is education. I was a student teacher. I studied this unlike Mr. Conspiracy Theorist Racist who read a Wikipedia link.Well, I wasn’t there to personally observe the discussions and decisions. So I cannot be certain.
But I suspect your description of the goals is unrealistically complimentary to the folks involved at the time and most things I’ve read about it over the years say it was more what I said earlier, compliant, patriotic, good citizens first, academics second.
I’m not sure I’ve ever seen a recounting that said anything about creating an informed populace. That seems a much more modern concept. At the time, that would’ve been an odd thing to think given the very limited and slow state of knowledge transfer in the world.
Well we consider you a treasure. In fact, next year in the Yellow Lot, we're gonna dig a hole and bury you.
Not at all. But facts are facts - Last year Space X launched more Satellites and had more launches (all reusable and successful) then the rest of the world combined. You may hate him but without Musk and Space X we would be still relying on the Russians and Chinese to launch our satellites.
I’m not bashing Musk. I’m simply pointing out the guy is a businessman, not a saint. He’s as imperfect a human as you or me. Adoration is unwarranted.
I don’t do human worship. Sheep maybe. Not humans.
I can list a dozen conspiracies right now that you fell for. But I don’t want to embarrass you even further - you do a good enough job at it yourself G.
I don’t believe in conspiracies though.
I come to conclusions based on extensive research from various sources.
My track record is flawless
It's amazing how some people are so hate filled they find reason to hate Taylor Swift, tinky winky, doctors...but their favorite media talking heads they love love love.Well, she does selflessly appear in public so the media can take video or photos that we may view her in all her gloriousness. And I’ve come to treasure her effect on her many haters in whose heads she lives rent free.
But nope, still not a national treasure.
Hate is toxic to the soul. Best avoided. Media talking heads, at least of the political variety, are toxic to the mind (all of them) and also best avoided, which I do assiduously.It's amazing how some people are so hate filled they find reason to hate Taylor Swift, tinky winky, doctors...but their favorite media talking heads they love love love.
I don’t do human worship. Sheep maybe.
It's always laughable to see people bad-mouthing the talking heads, or media sources, of the other side--and then implicitly believing the talking heads, or media sources, of their side. Unfortunately we're back to the 19th century in this country when media was unabashedly partisan. Partisan hacks think that means the OTHER side is partisan and dishonest but not theirs. I will say this, though: only one media outfit has been proven in court, extensively, to have knowingly deceived viewers. Those viewers continue to tune in.Hate is toxic to the soul. Best avoided. Media talking heads, at least of the political variety, are toxic to the mind (all of them) and also best avoided, which I do assiduously.