Happy accident? If you are rooting against bid stealers and bubble teams on this weekend, they are usually going to be underdogsCorrect. It's just a happy accident that we are rooting for favorites today (although FAU, the most important one probably, is a slight underdog in the actual betting markets)
UAB is pretty good. Getting all these teams/games confused. I think UAB had an injury, but now are healthyso FAU is going to get an at large if they are upset today and yet they are an underdog to a UAB team that is nowhere to be found as a possible at-large? Yeah, that makes a lot of sense. Seems like FAU is a fraud…
If we are the last Bye than things don’t look good for usDave’s groupings look spot on to me.
Why not? We're getting in unless there are bid stealers galore.If we are the last Bye than things don’t look good for us
That’s why metrics can be garbage. Teams get rewarded by beating bad teams if they beat them 100% of the time. They also get rewarded by pummeling bad teams into submission, which is just a matter of not playing your bench.so FAU is going to get an at large if they are upset today and yet they are an underdog to a UAB team that is nowhere to be found as a possible at-large? Yeah, that makes a lot of sense. Seems like FAU is a fraud…
Why not? We're getting in unless there are big stealers galore.
Why make a statementI wish this were true but I just don’t see the committee having a problem sending us to Dayton twice in a row if we deserve it (which we will pending bid thieves).
If we are the last bye 1 thief sends us to DaytonWhy not? We're getting in unless there are bid stealers galore.
There aren't going to be four bid stealersIf we are the last Bye than things don’t look good for us
Team quality does not equal team resumeso FAU is going to get an at large if they are upset today and yet they are an underdog to a UAB team that is nowhere to be found as a possible at-large? Yeah, that makes a lot of sense. Seems like FAU is a fraud…
Fair point.Happy accident? If you are rooting against bid stealers and bubble teams on this weekend, they are usually going to be underdogs
Talking about Dayton.There aren't going to be four bid stealers
Good, if they want to pick the best teams, then FAU has no shot at an at large if they lose today. Their 30 wins against mostly garbage teams would go out the window.Talking about Dayton.
The only thing that keep us out of the 68 if the committee changes the way they do things OR they look at Rutgers post Mag and knows they aren’t a top 32-33 type team.
They had a committee member on CBSsports network (Wally Szerbiak scares me!) and he actually referenced injuries making teams worse and they want to pick the best teams.
Made me pause
If you're referring to Florida Atlantic, you're selling them short. They definitely deserve to be in the field.That’s why metrics can be garbage. Teams get rewarded by beating bad teams if they beat them 100% of the time. They also get rewarded by pummeling bad teams into submission, which is just a matter of not playing your bench.
You should try to get the best 68 teams, and Cinderellas should be only for the conference champion auto-bids unless you have played a semi-competitive schedule.
You've been reading my posts, lol. Been saying this since it happened, i.e., the "loss" would be our tiebreaker if we were right on the edge of being in (keeping us out of Dayton) or right on the edge of being out of the tourney completely (keeping us in Dayton).The more I think about it the more I am convinced. We are the last bye…..no matter how many bid thieves we have.
They aren’t making us 20-13 and putting us ahead of PSU, but they aren’t going to send us to Dayton.
Why make a statement of there is no meaning behind it.
I’ll still root for FAU, but I am confident (not 100%, or even 80!) we are 11 seed not in Dayton.
FAU would be favored on a neutral court against many teams that will get an at-large bid if they played them tonight (most likely including Rutgers, though it would be close).Good, if they want to pick the best teams, then FAU has no shot at an at large if they lose today. Their 30 wins against mostly garbage teams would go out the window.
Aren’t we 3-6 without him with losses to Nebraska and Michigan at home and Minnesota away?Good, if they want to pick the best teams, then FAU has no shot at an at large if they lose today. Their 30 wins against mostly garbage teams would go out the window.
Also, we have proven we can be very good without Mag.
I just saw that and sent it to a few friends. It’s such a bizarre photo to post above the title saying we should be happyRutgers on front page of ESPN right now. Don't think they had to work hard to find that picture of Paul Mulcahy.
I thought no team with 29 wins has ever been left out. ? 30?Good, if they want to pick the best teams, then FAU has no shot at an at large if they lose today. Their 30 wins against mostly garbage teams would go out the window.
Also, we have proven we can be very good without Mag.
I’d much rather be 20-13 and not be hoping the selection committee throws us a bone.You've been reading my posts, lol. Been saying this since it happened, i.e., the "loss" would be our tiebreaker if we were right on the edge of being in (keeping us out of Dayton) or right on the edge of being out of the tourney completely (keeping us in Dayton).
I obviously have no direct knowledge of this, but I know how humans evaluate things and everyone knows that "loss" was a once in 5-10 year event, which will likely change the review rules (and not a run-of-the-mill poor judgment call which happens all the time in games) and will be accounted for by the Committee, even if ever so slightly.
Yes. We had an adjustment period which is to be expected. We also won games at Wisky (without Caleb also), and Penn State and most recently beat bubble-team Michigan on a neutral court and played within 5 points of a projected 1 seed.Aren’t we 3-6 without him with losses to Nebraska and Michigan at home and Minnesota away?
Perhaps. That doesn’t mean it’s right. Look at their schedule. It’s ridiculous. They won by 3 at Florida in the 3rd game of the season…and that’s it. Absolutely nothing else. They only played one other major conference team in Mississippi and lost by 13.I thought no team with 29 wins has ever been left out. ? 30?
why are they underdogs todayFAU would be favored on a neutral court against many teams that will get an at-large bid if they played them tonight (most likely including Rutgers, though it would be close).
Talking about Dayton.
The only thing that keep us out of the 68 if the committee changes the way they do things OR they look at Rutgers post Mag and knows they aren’t a top 32-33 type team.
They had a committee member on CBSsports network (Wally Szerbiak scares me!) and he actually referenced injuries making teams worse and they want to pick the best teams.
Made me pause
Split with UAB. Lost to them by 9 and only beat them by 2. I believe UAB might also have a player who returned from injury as well. Underdogs is further proof they don’t belong as an at large should they lose.why are they underdogs today
We just beat Mich and almost Perdie (playing 5 vs. 8 with the refs) with our new & improved lineup.Aren’t we 3-6 without him with losses to Nebraska and Michigan at home and Minnesota away?
Miami again??Rutgers on front page of ESPN right now. Don't think they had to work hard to find that picture of Paul Mulcahy.
they cant play Miami against the rules so espn lunardi is fake newsMiami again??
That Albany lineup is uninspiring wout us there for me.
We aren't playing Miami in Round 1 after having played them in November. Mizzou or A&M IMO are who we face.Miami again??
That Albany lineup is uninspiring wout us there for me.
Lol.. I thought that was the case but stupid me for Believing it was even possible knowing ESPN . Thanks guys. (yes and I know this was just a guess from them).they cant play Miami against the rules so espn lunardi is fake news
Yes but we were 3-6 and bart and kenpom would have us right around 100 over those 9 gamesYes. We had an adjustment period which is to be expected. We also won games at Wisky (I though Caleb also), and Penn State and most recently beat bubble-team Michigan on a neutral court and played wi the in 5 points of a 1 seed.
Michigan is a NIT team and we lost to Purdue by 5.We just beat Mich and almost Perdie (playing 5 vs. 8 with the refs) with our new & improved lineup.
I think our showing in the B1G tournament trumps that. IMO, it was huge that we followed up the Michigan win with a very respectable showing vs. Purdue. We can’t be expected to beat a 1 seed but we were right there.Yes but we were 3-6 and bart and kenpom would have us right around 100 over those 9 games
Aren’t we 3-6 without him with losses to Nebraska and Michigan at home and Minnesota away?
UAB is better. Jordan "Jelly" Walker was hurt and now is healthy. If Walker wasn't hurt UAB might have FAU's resume.why are they underdogs today