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OT: New York Mets 2022-2023 Off Season Thread

Agreed. He would benefit from a fresh start elsewhere.

So would Cody Bellinger, who reportedly is being non-tendered by the Dodgers. 2019 MVP. Hard to think a position player would fall so far so fast. (It does happen with pitchers.)
For those that watch the Dodgers, what did happen to this guy. Was it an injury after his MVP season?
Never seen a young guy drop this fast.
 
For those that watch the Dodgers, what did happen to this guy. Was it an injury after his MVP season?
Never seen a young guy drop this fast.
The linked article addresses this issue. The author blames a broken tibula in early 2021 which ruined his mechanics

TL/DR: "Pain teaches bad habits."

 
In addition to Dom Smith, Mets also non-tendered Sean Reid-Foley. They are the only two.
 
Mets should sign deGrom.
I'll be very happy if they let him walk.
 
Mets should sign Bellinger to a 3 year $70-80 million contract with 1 year player opt out.
I doubt he gets anything near that much. Dodgers didn't want to give him $17 mill for one year. They certainly wouldn't give him three years with a one year opt out. Nor will anyone else IMO.

Bellinger is not in a good bargaining position.
 
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There would need to be a mutual option in there.
But, the guy may be worth the chance if we lose Nimmo.
Mutual options are rarely exercised. Not sure why they even exist TBH. If the player has overperformed the contract, he won't exercise it. If he hasn't, the team won't exercise it.
 
Apparently Dodgers are interested in bringing Bellinger back, but at a lower price tag.
 
Mutual options are rarely exercised. Not sure why they even exist TBH. If the player has overperformed the contract, he won't exercise it. If he hasn't, the team won't exercise it.
I believe it just gives both an out…
But I really don’t think Bellinger should get any more than 2/28
 
Mets should sign deGrom.
I'll be very happy if they let him walk.
How about you worry about your own team.
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On the minor league front: Shervyen Newton, who four years ago was a Top 5 prospect, signed with the Phillies as a minor league free agent. Also Nate Fisher, a lefty reliever who helped the Mets win a game last year, signed with the White Sox.

If you've been in the minors for seven years, and are not on the 40 man, you're a free agent.
 
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The problem is the players union. For two owners to openly say they will not pursue a player(s) in agreement, it is in fact collusion. We know it has been done for years and mult teams have made behind the door handshakes on these things but for it to get out, does not help...
It’s not the union. It’s illegal.
 
It’s not the union. It’s illegal.
Understood- what I meant, is not that the players union is a problem but may be the problem to the league for an issue like this.
It is illegal but used to be done all the time by the good ole boys that own these teams.
 
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Understood- what I meant, is not that the players union is a problem but may be the problem to the league for an issue like this.
It is illegal but used to be done all the time by the good ole boys that own these teams.
It’s done in a lot of places. Before I retired I saw it done by my CEO. Not even the slightest consideration that this was illegal or maybe that the best man should win.
 
Yanks looking at deGrom, asked for his medicals. Time for Mets to ask for Judge’s medicals.
 
Something to keep an eye on: 8 of 8 baseball experts per ESPN all predict that Jake will sign elsewhere. Conversely most of them have Rodon signing with Mets.
 
Something to keep an eye on: 8 of 8 baseball experts per ESPN all predict that Jake will sign elsewhere. Conversely most of them have Rodon signing with Mets.
Just heard Texas is interested in Rodon, that might take them out of the deGrom race.
 
Something to keep an eye on: 8 of 8 baseball experts per ESPN all predict that Jake will sign elsewhere. Conversely most of them have Rodon signing with Mets.
Yep. They believe that Nimmo is a higher Met priority than deGrom.
 
Yep. They believe that Nimmo is a higher Met priority than deGrom.

Agree with that.
As things have played out- Nimmo does become the higher priority. But...a healthy deGrom, which is why Nimmo(ironic) is the top.
deGrom, is the single player on the Met's that I really hoped to be lifelong- to see him anywhere else, takes away from my baseball enjoyment. Even if we sign him for a Mad Max contract and he only pitches 60-70 games in the next 3, I would take it.
 
yes, the shortened 2020 season and the two years he was out with the injury.
The whole point, is if he is over the injury. If he isn't and can't give you 25+ starts each year, not worth it.
The whole point is that he’s had serious arm trouble for a while now.
 
The whole point is that he’s had serious arm trouble for a while now.
we know of his early TJ surgery in 2010(i think) maybe 2011. but up until 2021- no major damage- mostly a couple of minor cleanups to his elbow that didn't really cut into much time other than a 10 day DL during his first CY year. But up through 2020, he has never had a 3 year stretch with less than 76 starts. and his 3 years prior to 2020 were all 30+ and he had a healthy 2020 season. His arm concerns are from his last injury that cost him nearly 1.5 years.
No way to know if he is over injury.
That is what it is- can he give you 25+ starts a year for the next 3?
 
we know of his early TJ surgery in 2010(i think) maybe 2011. but up until 2021- no major damage- mostly a couple of minor cleanups to his elbow that didn't really cut into much time other than a 10 day DL during his first CY year. But up through 2020, he has never had a 3 year stretch with less than 76 starts. and his 3 years prior to 2020 were all 30+ and he had a healthy 2020 season. His arm concerns are from his last injury that cost him nearly 1.5 years.

That is what it is- can he give you 25+ starts a year for the next 3?
I'm going to say that would be a long shot. If he did, would they be of the 5/6 inning type, putting pressure on the bullpen? I'd say 2 years, big time money,some deferred, take it or leave it. Either way, he's an All Time great Mets player who will always get a standing ovation at any NYC event or Old Timers Game. LFGM. At least we don't boo our major free agents out of town, or sour them on how we treated teammates.😎
 
I'm going to say that would be a long shot. If he did, would they be of the 5/6 inning type, putting pressure on the bullpen? I'd say 2 years, big time money,some deferred, take it or leave it. Either way, he's an All Time great Mets player who will always get a standing ovation at any NYC event or Old Timers Game. LFGM. At least we don't boo our major free agents out of town, or sour them on how we treated teammates.😎
I agree- and if the Met's did offer 2 years at $80-88 with a 3rd year option, I would be ok with that. Even if he left to another team, at least it would show that the Met's made a very serious bid to keep him here. And if he leaves- go slightly lower for Verlander but also, just 2 years.
If that fails- load up with Bassitt and Rodon for the staff
 
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