OT: New York Mets 2022-2023 Off Season Thread
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AAV of 37 million per over 5 years would be a tough nut to swallow. Texas had to overpay and did so. Congrats to Jake and thanks for the memories. Now lets move on to Rodon and the Japanese pitcher.
You are incorrect. It is entirely possible that they will be better next year without him. IF they sign a replacement who may not be quite as good, but will give them 32 starts instead of 15-20.
And it is very likely that they will be better 3-5 years from now without his salary on the books.
Wake your own damn self up. You young people want everything done for you.
Can't give Verlander three years. I mean you can, and somebody might, but I wouldn't.
I agree with this. Cohen has tons of money. Signing degrom isn't preventing them from signing another pitcher or player.
Nonsense to think this doesn't hurt them in October
Mets fans are delusional.
They don't want to pay degrom but are cheering given 40yr old verlander 50million a year
If Verlander wants 130 for 3, I am targeting Rodon for a longer term lower AAV deal.
Then why haven’t the Yankees just offered Judge a 10 year deal?
Anyway- to Met fans that think we are better without him- yes, 10-15 start deGrom, you are correct but if his arm is healthy, and I didn’t see a concern with his comeback this year. Then it is a huge loss.
Think about even this year and his 11 or so starts. 3.0something era. We look at that as horrible for him.
If he pitches 25+ , then he is very hard to replace.
Now, can you offer 5 years? I want to say yes but the answer is no. For the Yankee fans, you are right, it isn’t our money but, it is just bad baseball.
As for deGrom, he cashed in and very hard to turn down that contract guaranteed with no deferrals. But, does he get back to the playoffs?
As for the Rangers- oh boy- dangerous move.
Now, let’s see if Eppler can earn his money.
I’m ok with a 3 year deal on Verlander but the AAV - hmmmmm I sort of feel that his TJ last year added a couple of good years on him.
But, you still need another proven starter.
Essentially he is looking for the same deal we gave Scherzer last year. Not sure that is going to be looking like a good value in year 3 either. Agree we need more than one starter.
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First I read about Zack Eflin getting a three-year deal for $40 million, and now DeGrom getting five years for an average $37 million annually. Pitchers with suspect injury histories are getting long-term deals -- SMH.
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Seems like the consensus via reports from various writers…
Mets never got a chance to make final offer. Mets found out how advanced DeGrom’s talks were with Texas only a few hours before he signed and thought it was already too late to get back involved. Mets and everyone surprised he got 5 years.
So it seems like Mets were caught off guard a little by how much process DeGrom and Texas had made.
Mets never got a chance to make final offer. Mets found out how advanced DeGrom’s talks were with Texas only a few hours before he signed and thought it was already too late to get back involved. Mets and everyone surprised he got 5 years.
So it seems like Mets were caught off guard a little by how much process DeGrom and Texas had made.
Billy Eppler not even in mid season form yet and caught with his pants down. Malfeasance if you ask me. He’s an awful GM. Just ask Mike Trout.
Maybe Jake wanted to leave but from all I read Mets offer was 3 / 120 which is less than Scherzer contract.
Don’t know if Verlander is the answer given his age as he may go to dodgers. And do you want to trust 40 year old pitcher given what happened to Max down the stretch?
That leaves Rodon who will cost 6/180 who is also injury prone albeit younger.
Leaving the question then who would you have rather signed to long term deal : Degrom or Rodon?
This is a franchise that yearns for a legacy for its own developed talent and I’m very disappointed in Cohen and Eppler for not doing what it took to keep Jake a Met.
To close, Eppler better do what it takes to improve the team because there’s not many viable options with SP nor in CF. Yet Mets will overpay to do so when it should have overpaid for our own.
Per Martino s tweet: Given the limited options out there, I hope Mets sign Rodon as its top tier guy and take a chance with Senga as the mid tier pitcher.
Under this ownership, what just occurred should never have happened however given the unarticulate dunce leading it’s front office, I should not be surprised.
That is exactly how I feel about it. Could not count on him the last few years.
Not our money? How about everything about going to the game to support high end players is about our money. I have to say, I felt betrayed and hurt way more when Strawberry left, way more hurt.
As a retired insurance underwriter I would like to have been a fly on the wall for any insurance discussions, if the contract even will be insured. Huge premiums.
Where are you getting 50 Mil a year, talk about delusional. Worry about Judge and how overpriced you'll have to go to keep him and if not what would you consider that loss? PS. Truly touched by how concerned you and kbee be are about the Mets, what trolls.
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Nothing hurt more than Strawberry leaving as far as I'm concerned, well, really the killer was the Seaver trade. No one knew what Nolan Ryan would become, yea, we've had a few great ones walk away or traded away.
I think I am drawing the line at 5 years for Rodon. Preferably 4 but definitely no more than 5. Who else is giving him a 6 year deal? Maybe 5 with a mutual option? Yes his bargaining position has improved with the Mets losing out on deGrom but its not panic time....yet.
While I think Boras is all about the money, a conspiracy angle would be that he favored pointing deGrom to Texas because they did him a solid with Kumar Rocker after the debacle with the Mets last year. I am sure Boras did not like how that went down more than he publicly disclosed. He realizes he needs a good relationship the Mets for his other clients but probably did not mind this outcome. Should be interesting to see where Nimmo lands. No hometown discount for the Mets that's for sure.
Sitting here thinking about not only the starts deGrom missed, but how many of his starts were pushed back, thus disrupting the entire rotation. The Mets offered more per year but were smart not to offer more than 3 years. Pretty much how I bet 75% of Mets fans feel today.
Was the best pitcher when healthy. Might want to fix your post
Mets fan now killing degrom. It's sad. They are a disloyal fanbase who let their greatest player ever leave.
Waiting on Judge, Troll. Who's killing deGrom? He was offered more money per year than Texas gave him, just not the years. Pretty sure he could survive on 3 years $120. This thread will come back to bite you in your arse.
So you would give a pitcher who pitched in 38 games in 3 years 6/$220M?
And no one is “killing” degrom. Same fans would not give an injury prone pitcher that type of contract. A 2-3 year deal? Yes. Not 5-6.
My friend just told me a pretty funny but probably true line he read. The only thing deGrom lead the league in last year was MRIs.
This was obviously degrom’s call. He was under contact, opted out and signed somewhere else
I am not killing him at all. I am a realist. If he was healthy and could go more than 5 or 6 innings of course I want him back. I also want to win. The Mets best chance is taking the $$$$$ and get 2 or 3 players back that will mean more to the team that what Jake would NOW
No one is killing him. He had no choice but to take that deal. And almost everyone feels we made a good fair offer is 3/140 or so was the deal.
Most if not all, wish he could have been a forever Met if possible, even if not fully healthy. But not at the Ranger guaranteed money. That just would have been stupid.
What you twist “killing” is with, concern over health. Big difference.
I do know this, more Met jersey’s that are still exciting to buy than Yankee’s.
And most likely, Mets still win more games next year that your guys.
We still have moves to make, but your trolling is ignorant.
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