OT: New York Mets 2022-2023 Off Season Thread
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You can rationalize yourself into your preferred outcome as much as you want. But you won't be able to evaporate that this is a pitcher who hasn't been able to stay on the field the last couple of years. Sure, go ahead if you like, and announce that there's no reason to have a heightened concern that this particular pitcher will have trouble staying on the field over the next 3 years. But I guarantee you that zero teams are actually thinking that, including the Mets. It's a matter of who wants to spend big bucks while also rolling the dice to a greater extent than you would with a other mid-30s pitcher with no recent arm problems. The thing that will draw other teams (not sure how many) is how great deGrom is when he's healthy. How much this deal will cost will be, to a large extent, driven by whether and, if so, how many, teams other than the Mets are willing to risk 3+ years and big bucks on a guy like this. As is no surprise, all of that is unclear right now.
You realize that your view of my view is completely wrong in a way that I assume you are trying to make your point.
What I said, is if he can make a certain number of starts over the next 3 years, it would be worth it. I have also said that I may be willing to go 2 years with a option on the 3rd year. This is because of injury concerns.
What I also just happened to point out, is that he had TJ surgery 11 years ago and up until 2021- relatively healthy. His injury in 2021 was substantial enough to keep him out of the MLB for almost 1.5 years. That is significant. But...it was an injury that took that much time. He has been pretty solid for most of his career.
And yes, like all Met fans- we would all love to "hope" he would sign with us, stay healthy and win another CY. But we are all smart enough that you don't see any of us ready to hate the Met's if he signs elsewhere.
It’s not “injury.” It’s injuries: side, forearm, elbow, shoulder. It’s been a lot.
Ok- you win. Today is my birthday and I must have gotten wiser. 😜🎂
I have seen enough of bassit to realize you won’t win with him in a big spot . He’s a good 4th or 5th guy to eat innings on a contending team and you can’t start him in the playoffs.
I see Bassitt as a 4th or 5th guy. I also question whether he's good for clubhouse chemistry. He very publicly called out Nido for bad pitch selection. He whined several times about the shift costing his an out a few times. He was also overly demonstrative when an outfielder didn't get to a ball that was potentially catchable several times. He seems to be a "me" guy.
I really think the Mets should sign radon and let the chips fall where they may with Jake. Jake may take less from us if he does not have the Mets desperately trying to sign him. Who else will pay him 45 million per?
Why so negative? Everybody signs everybody else's organizational depth guys every year. Teams are already signing ours. Remember Nate Fisher, who was a hero, just for one day? Signed by the White Sox.
The strong likelihood is that you will never hear this guy's name again (unless you're a minor league geek like me). If you do, it's an unexpected bonus. Or a sign of desperation. Either way, nothing to fret about now.
deGrom to the Texas Rangers 5 years $185 million. Also a 6th year conditional option which can bring the deal to $222 million. No deferrals.
I'm kind of in shock they gave him so much and I wouldn't have done that but still sucks to think we saw the last of deGrom pitching for the Mets.
I'm kind of in shock they gave him so much and I wouldn't have done that but still sucks to think we saw the last of deGrom pitching for the Mets.
Mets were wise to pass at that price. He will become an anchor for Texas within a few seasons.
Best of luck,sad but not devastated. Spent so much time worrying between every start how he'd feel after each outing.
See ya Jacob. Call me old fashion but if I am going to spend on a multi year contract ( huge $$$ no less) I’d like my pitcher to be able to pitch every fifth day. Rangers taking a huge gamble
Sorry to see him go but ok at the same time. Would not have paid him what Texas did. He’s untouchable when healthy, but that’s not that often and lately he’s become a 5 inning pitcher. High risk - high reward. I will be pissed if we don’t sign Nimmo, however…unless of course we get Trea Turner but I’m not counting on that one.
I love deGrom. But the Mets would be stupid to offer what was agreed to. DeGrom is a 6 inning pitcher now. It hurts now, but this will ultimately work out better for the organization. Mets dominated while degrom was hurt
Knew he’d be gone, glad he went to Texas, and glad we didn’t go to 5/6 years.
I expect Verlander or Rodon soon.
I expect Verlander or Rodon soon.
Sorry and sad to see degrom leave. Now we have to sign Rodon and or verlander.
Loved him but at the end I was just waiting for next injury , Mets fan in me says he’s going to win 20 next year , unfortunately the following game is one the memories I will have of DeGrom ……..
Up 3-0 bottom first vs team with lowest home batting average in MLB history DeGrom gave up 4 runs to Oakland A’s. Mets lost one game division lead that day
Listened to game while I was driving to Iowa game
Up 3-0 bottom first vs team with lowest home batting average in MLB history DeGrom gave up 4 runs to Oakland A’s. Mets lost one game division lead that day
Listened to game while I was driving to Iowa game
101 wins
He was 5-4
and very average at the end of the year once he had a few turns through the rotation
www.espn.com
He was 5-4
and very average at the end of the year once he had a few turns through the rotation
Jacob deGrom Game by Game Stats and Performance | ESPN
Latest on Texas Rangers starting pitcher Jacob deGrom including complete game-by-game stats on ESPN
How about we wait to see the next moves before you start this? May not be my money but I’d rather pay a pitcher I can depend upon going more than 5 or 6 innings a game when he is not on the DL.
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When he breaks down, the other $40 million in players are not on your bench to pick up the slack. $$$$
Agree with that . But it does free up money for another pitcher and a position player.
The real sad thing is that if he came back with the Mets he was going to go down as one of the Mets all-time greats . There was going to be Degrom Drive outside Citi field next to Seaver Way. So it’s sad on both sides (the degrom camp and the Mets ) that it didn’t get done.
2019 Cy Young Jacob would be a huge loss.
2022 6 Inning, 15 Day IL Jacob, not so much.
Want to thank him for his two Cy Youngs and all but I’m shocked he actually got 5/$185 M with his injuries.
And yes it’s not our money but now we don’t have to worry about WHEN he will be on the IL and how long. Plus it’s better spent on two or more players who would help the Mets instead of being on the IL.
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