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OT: NY Rangers 2023-2024 Thread

Other side of the coin is if you gave the Rangers 100 shot attempts we'd have more than 4 goals. All it takes is 1 moment and we got a few guys with big skills.
I did not mean Wennberg in the above lmao
 
I giive Lav credit putting that line out there on the O Zone face off.
They were the only line that even attempted to fore check along with Laf by himself.and Goodrow
 
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Look at the number on the top of Rodrigues’ shoulder, that shows you where the initial contact was. The neck was contacted soon after, but it wasn’t the point of contact.
Not to mention that the precedent has already been set this playoffs. Panarin’s hit against a Capital in the first series and the hit against Wennberg in game 2 of this series. No way they’re calling today’s a major while those were both 2 mins.
 
This might just be the Rangers year, I mean I still think Dallas would clean them up if they were healthy but everything seems to be breaking the Rangers way.
I’m starting to feel that way. Rangers are resilient this year. Would have thought this one was getting away from them. Will still be tough to win 2 more off Florida but Rangers are tough
 
This might just be the Rangers year, I mean I still think Dallas would clean them up if they were healthy but everything seems to be breaking the Rangers way.
They still have to get past Florida first, but Dallas is scary because Oettinger is the one guy who can match Shesterkin’s play right now.
 
No one wanted to hear me preseason when I said everyone was insane to say laff was any kind of bust. All world talent and always available. If he had pp1 time hed be a ppg player already. One of the best 5v5 players in hockey
 
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No one wanted to hear me preseason when I said everyone was insane to say laff was any kind of bust. All world talent and always available. If he had pp1 time hed be a ppg player already. One of the best 5v5 players in hockey
Best #1 pick since Matthews.
 
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Look. After that 3rd period the Rangers had no business winning that game. But they did. The xGF people are besides themselves. But the Rangers overcame it with another clutch OT goal. Maybe they are too clutch in crunch time for any of their flaws to matter.
 
This might just be the Rangers year, I mean I still think Dallas would clean them up if they were healthy but everything seems to be breaking the Rangers way.

They still have to get past Florida first, but Dallas is scary because Oettinger is the one guy who can match Shesterkin’s play right now.
Think you guys are underestimating Edmonton. They can beat Dallas (and I hope they do).
 
haha being dead serious, I EASILY take him over nico and I lean towards taking him over jack. Jack is uber talented but hes so tiny and frail.

best 1st overall pick since matthews is bedard but laff is 2nd imo
Laff was better than Bedard this year. And having a much better playoffs. :)
 
This might just be the Rangers year, I mean I still think Dallas would clean them up if they were healthy but everything seems to be breaking the Rangers way.
When you expend all your energy defending it leaves you no gas to make a play Devlisfan, much less forecheck.
Usually it results in an icing or a change, both of which puts you in a defensive posture and the cycle repeats.

It’s absolutely remarkable the Rangers aren’t losing these games by 3 or 4 goals.

Panarin hasn’t completed a pass this series and Kreider and Mika don’t have a point.
Absolutely remarkable this team continues to win😊

This might be the Rangers year (as you said) is another way of saying destiny.
No one can define or explain destiny…lol.

Like you, in my eyes. Dallas would trample us.

Taking it a step further, these games based on puck possession, zone time and shot attempts, should be resulting in the game 7 embarrassing loss to you guys last year.
 
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When you expend all your energy defending it leaves you no gas to make a play Devlisfan, much less forecheck.
Usually it results in an icing or a change, both of which puts you in a defensive posture and the cycle repeats.

It’s absolutely remarkable the Rangers aren’t losing these games by 3 or 4 goals.

Panarin hasn’t completed a pass this series and Kreider and Mika don’t have a point.
Absolutely remarkable this team continues to win😊

This might be the Rangers year (as you said) is another way of saying destiny.
No one can define or explain destiny…lol.

Like you, in my eyes. Dallas would trample us.

Taking it a step further, these games based on puck possession, zone time and shot attempts, should be resulting in the game 7 embarrassing loss to you guys last year.
I think youre over reacting. We went into effectively a prevent defense in the 3rd yesterday and got hammered. Other than that, weve been the better 5v5 team for most of the series
 
When you expend all your energy defending it leaves you no gas to make a play Devlisfan, much less forecheck.
Usually it results in an icing or a change, both of which puts you in a defensive posture and the cycle repeats.

It’s absolutely remarkable the Rangers aren’t losing these games by 3 or 4 goals.

Panarin hasn’t completed a pass this series and Kreider and Mika don’t have a point.
Absolutely remarkable this team continues to win😊

This might be the Rangers year (as you said) is another way of saying destiny.
No one can define or explain destiny…lol.

Like you, in my eyes. Dallas would trample us.

Taking it a step further, these games based on puck possession, zone time and shot attempts, should be resulting in the game 7 embarrassing loss to you guys last year.
The important thing is what TYPE of shot attempts that puck possession and zone time are turning into, and Florida isn’t turning the dominance in those areas into the overwhelming edge in high danger scoring chances one would expect.

I get that the Rangers can get worn down over time facing so much pressure, but to me the big concern is on the other end where only two players in our top 6 are getting anything done.
 
The important thing is what TYPE of shot attempts that puck possession and zone time are turning into, and Florida isn’t turning the dominance in those areas into the overwhelming edge in high danger scoring chances one would expect.

I get that the Rangers can get worn down over time facing so much pressure, but to me the big concern is on the other end where only two players in our top 6 are getting anything done.

I see high danger shots from them every time they dominate the cycle, which is most the game.
Virtually everyone of their shots is susceptible redirections, rebounds and net presence….hardly ever are they one and done.
 
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I see high danger shots from them every time they dominate the cycle, which is most the game.
Virtually everyone of their shots is susceptible redirections, rebounds and net presence….hardly ever are they one and done.
By definition, net presence or chance at a deflection does not make a shot taken from further away a high danger scoring chance, it’s where the actual shot was taken from or an actual deflection happened.
 
By definition, net presence or chance at a deflection does not make a shot taken from further away a high danger scoring chance, it’s where the actual shot was taken from or an actual deflection happened.
I disagree Krup-
The shot we took from the point was not high danger, the position Wennberg had was high danger.
Kreids hasn’t established that position all series because we’re one and done
 
I disagree Krup-
The shot we took from the point was not high danger, the position Wennberg had was high danger.
Kreids hasn’t established that position all series because we’re one and done
That’s what I said.

Your post said most of their shots involve “susceptible deflections” and “net presence” but that doesn’t make their long distance shots high danger. Only actual defections and actual rebounds do.
 
That’s what I said.

Your post said most of their shots involve “susceptible deflections” and “net presence” but that doesn’t make their long distance shots high danger. Only actual defections and actual rebounds do.
Disagree, completely. The shots are high danger if there is a net presence. That point aside, Florida had a ton of point blank chances right in front of the net, including that Tkachuk chance that Shesterkin stymied. Reinhart's two goals were very similar to a good dozen other chances they had from similar spots. The danger was extremely high. Florida's PP also seems to have the Rangers on their heels, despite the SH goal yesterday.
 
We stole that one. But who cares?! still haven’t played our best hockey and up 2-1. Nothing wrong with that
 
Disagree, completely. The shots are high danger if there is a net presence. That point aside, Florida had a ton of point blank chances right in front of the net, including that Tkachuk chance that Shesterkin stymied. Reinhart's two goals were very similar to a good dozen other chances they had from similar spots. The danger was extremely high. Florida's PP also seems to have the Rangers on their heels, despite the SH goal yesterday.
Not by the definition used in analytics,

Clear Sight Analytics (Valiquette’s outfit) had the expected goals as 4.65 Fla to 2.71 Rangers yesterday, but due to the overwhelming disparity in Low (23-7) and Mid (6-2) danger shots. They only had the High danger shots as 11-10 Florida.

The Ranger PK was on their heels for two goals because of two horrible Miller turnovers.
 
Not by the definition used in analytics,

Clear Sight Analytics (Valiquette’s outfit) had the expected goals as 4.65 Fla to 2.71 Rangers yesterday, but due to the overwhelming disparity in Low (23-7) and Mid (6-2) danger shots. They only had the High danger shots as 11-10 Florida.

The Ranger PK was on their heels for two goals because of two horrible Miller turnovers.
Alot of websites show rangers had more high danger chances.

Eventually the dorks in front offices building teams will realize just peppering garbage shots at high volume isnt as good as have fewer chances albeit more high quality. Carolina is supposedly winning the cup every year because they lead the league in bad angle shots

 
Alot of websites show rangers had more high danger chances.

Eventually the dorks in front offices building teams will realize just peppering garbage shots at high volume isnt as good as have fewer chances albeit more high quality. Carolina is supposedly winning the cup every year because they lead the league in bad angle shots

People don’t understand that the Rangers are playing to that as well. They know volume doesn’t mean that one will eventually get through Shesterkin, he thrives on volume. They are fine with a lot of these shots being taken.
 
A lot of wierd very one-dimensional takes on the game.

I thought NY was playing well and was very pleased with the first two periods. They didn't handle the push in the third well but made it through and played well in OT. Hell of a timeout by Lav.

They won without a decided special teams advantage and the PP needs to be better. I'm never pleased when the penalties are 6-2, and while you earn them, they let a lot go.

I love how Trouba is public enemy number one. Partially because they called it a major, reviewed it, and saw what Krup saw to downgrade it to a minor. But partially because most NY fans would love for him to get suspended a game as they've played better w/o him.
 
People don’t understand that the Rangers are playing to that as well. They know volume doesn’t mean that one will eventually get through Shesterkin, he thrives on volume. They are fine with a lot of these shots being taken.
Agree. The fourth goal was only one where shot beat him clean, and that was because Chytil had no idea what he was doing and went to the wrong guy.
 
A lot of wierd very one-dimensional takes on the game.

I thought NY was playing well and was very pleased with the first two periods. They didn't handle the push in the third well but made it through and played well in OT. Hell of a timeout by Lav.

They won without a decided special teams advantage and the PP needs to be better. I'm never pleased when the penalties are 6-2, and while you earn them, they let a lot go.

I love how Trouba is public enemy number one. Partially because they called it a major, reviewed it, and saw what Krup saw to downgrade it to a minor. But partially because most NY fans would love for him to get suspended a game as they've played better w/o him.
Rangers were completely fine the first 2 periods. Florida dominated the 3rd as the rangers tried to basically play prevent defense for a full 20 and that never works
 
People don’t understand that the Rangers are playing to that as well. They know volume doesn’t mean that one will eventually get through Shesterkin, he thrives on volume. They are fine with a lot of these shots being taken.
That’s very similar to what Steve Valiquette said post game.
 
Not by the definition used in analytics,

Clear Sight Analytics (Valiquette’s outfit) had the expected goals as 4.65 Fla to 2.71 Rangers yesterday, but due to the overwhelming disparity in Low (23-7) and Mid (6-2) danger shots. They only had the High danger shots as 11-10 Florida.

The Ranger PK was on their heels for two goals because of two horrible Miller turnovers.
Not an analytics specialist, so I will take your word on that. I know what my eyes saw, and it was extremely stressful and felt like high danger for a good portion of that game. It didn't feel like Florida was throwing a lot of low percentage shots at Shesterkin. I felt like they were getting into high danger spots a lot and Shesterkin stole the game.

Miller's turnovers were definitely killers, but Florida is in the offensive zone a lot and it seems like the Rangers are having a tough time clearing the puck while SH especially compared to how they looked against Washington and Carolina.
 
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