I don’t think he and others on the board think it’s an advantage.
I do think you need to distinguish between legal and illegal. Legal immigration is great.
I don’t think he and others on the board think it’s an advantage.
As a WSJ subscriber, I'm sharing this story -- it's timely and important. Pundits assume that economics are the reason, but that's only one. Rather, young people no longer see becoming parents as an essential goal. https://www.wsj.com/lifestyle/relat...r4lh7vw8bbi&reflink=desktopwebshare_permalink
He can speak for himself, but I notice he refers to "citizens" -- by definition, people whose residence here is legal and who care enough about this country to go through the process of becoming citizens. An awful lot of Americans would fail the required civics test.I don’t think he and others on the board think it’s an advantage.
Weapon of war?It seems pretty jarring to us to put your kid on the school bus in the morning and not know if she or he will return because a nutjob was able to buy a weapon of war and massacre them. Outside of a small handful of warzones, the US in the only country where that is a thing.
Point is, you already cannot buy or sell military weapons (aka weapons of war) in the US. It's currently illegal to buy or sell "rapid-fire" (aka fully automatic) rifles in every state in the US.I think what he means by a "weapon of war" is something that has no other purpose (hopefully) than to kill many quickly.
If someone is hunting deer or squirrels or bear with a rapid fire-rifle I think they're doing it wrong.
I said in another post. The dead parent might have paid SS for 20 years but isn't going to collect a penny. The total the dependent children get, might or might not be more than the parent would have received (# of kids, ages, disabilities). From experience, mine were 11 and 13 when their Mom died. They received $900/month ea. The double whammy is when they turn 18 and enter college. The $900 stop but the expenses triple. I depleted (over $100,000) my savings and my son enlisted before his senior year to get the GI Bill tuition reimbursement .Yes, I understand that. But as things stand now, there are many folks who collect Social Security benefits who never contributed a nickel. For instance, dependent (children) benefits if a parent passes away.
It used to be that widows' benefits continued until the children turned 22 if the children were in college. I know that from personal experience. I don't know when that ended.I said in another post. The dead parent might have paid SS for 20 years but isn't going to collect a penny. The total the dependent children get, might or might not be more than the parent would have received (# of kids, ages, disabilities). From experience, mine were 11 and 13 when their Mom died. They received $900/month ea. The double whammy is when they turn 18 and enter college. The $900 stop but the expenses triple. I depleted (over $100,000) my savings and my son enlisted before his senior year to get the GI Bill tuition reimbursement .
Weapon of war?
What weapon of war can people legally purchase in the US? Unless you broaden the definition to weapons no modern military uses in combat, except in special circumstances, then when people talk about weapons of war, they're talking about fully automatic weapons. And fully automatic weapons are illegal to buy or sell everywhere in the US.
If you want to count special circumstances, then knives, cars, rocks and sticks, a variety of ordinary chemicals that can be used to produce explosives or deadly gases, and pretty much anything else people use to kill each other are all weapons of war.
Also, every state in the US has laws on their books that prohibit a "nutjob" from purchasing a weapon of any kind, even many knives. And all gun stores are required to use federal background checks. There are loopholes but they can be closed. And too many states' laws optimistically count on self-policing to prevent nutjobs from legally purchasing weapons. That too can be addressed.
If you want to talk about solutions to a problem, and everybody everywhere agrees that school kids getting killed is a problem, then you first have to accurately define the problem. And it helps a lot to resist the urge to use inaccurate hyperbole which always results in nothing more than counter-hyperbole.
So true.It seems like there's one weapon that is common to most mass shootings and now an assassination attempt. Whatever laws we have, seems safe to say they're not working.
Sure there's other things that can be weapons, but seems like all those things are very much available here and elsewhere and not used to any great extent. On the other hand, we are the only country where school shootings are a repeat occurrence. And we're not the only country with mental health problems, single parent homes, addiction, depression, etc...it's gotta be something else...
As far as I'm concerned, it's good for the planet that people have less kids. But the people whining about immigrants are the same ones wondering why people born here are less interested in kids. They have their answer.
Only whine about illegal immigrantsIt seems like there's one weapon that is common to most mass shootings and now an assassination attempt. Whatever laws we have, seems safe to say they're not working.
Sure there's other things that can be weapons, but seems like all those things are very much available here and elsewhere and not used to any great extent. On the other hand, we are the only country where school shootings are a repeat occurrence. And we're not the only country with mental health problems, single parent homes, addiction, depression, etc...it's gotta be something else...
As far as I'm concerned, it's good for the planet that people have less kids. But the people whining about immigrants are the same ones wondering why people born here are less interested in kids. They have their answer.
Only whine about illegal immigrants
I think that is fair
I just got my senior freeze check. Is there another check for the anchor program and is this stay NJ another program?The Governor and legislative leadership have reached agreement on a program to be called "Stay New Jersey." Those over 65 with incomes of $500,000 or less will receive an annual payment from the state of half their property taxes up to a limit of $6500 per year. I mention this because property taxes often come up in discussions on this board of why posters are planning to leave NJ upon retirement.https://nj.gov/governor/news/news/562023/approved/20230621a.shtml
Edit: the limit is $6500, not $6200 as I originally wrote.
As I keep pointing out, West Virginia has the fewest mass shootings of any state. And it’s tied for having the most permissive gun laws. You can bring a gun into the state and carry it without any permit. No mag restrictions. Far fewer types of semiautomatic guns or gun accessories banned, etc.It seems like there's one weapon that is common to most mass shootings and now an assassination attempt. Whatever laws we have, seems safe to say they're not working.
Sure there's other things that can be weapons, but seems like all those things are very much available here and elsewhere and not used to any great extent. On the other hand, we are the only country where school shootings are a repeat occurrence. And we're not the only country with mental health problems, single parent homes, addiction, depression, etc...it's gotta be something else...
As far as I'm concerned, it's good for the planet that people have less kids. But the people whining about immigrants are the same ones wondering why people born here are less interested in kids. They have their answer.
Didn't you say we can't compare the US and the UK because they're too different.As I keep pointing out, West Virginia has the fewest mass shootings of any state. And it’s tied for having the most permissive gun laws. You can bring a gun into the state and carry it without any permit. No mag restrictions. Far fewer types of semiautomatic guns or gun accessories banned, etc.
Meanwhile, CA has the toughest, most restrictive gun laws of any state. And it has, by far, the most mass shootings, by far.
Which says that whatever is causing so many mass shooting events, it’s probably not access to guns. I mean, if there was some way to magically eliminate every single gun in the nation instantly, mass shootings would cease, but mass killings will pretty obviously still occur using some other method, of which there are many. And it’s not remotely possible to eliminate every single gun in the US, or come even close.
Gun laws absolutely work for ordinary gun violence. Especially the waiting period built into the federal background checks required in every state. But most gun-specific gun laws are kind of useless for mass shootings, including school shootings. And there are new laws that can be implemented that can improve things.
But like I keep pointing out, the discussion always centers around bans that don’t fix mass shootings and can’t be implemented anyway. Which is why you wind with nothing improving. NYS implemented two new laws after its most recent event: they banned body armor (idiotic), and raised the age for purchasing certain guns. Ridiculous.
Haven’t seen proposals to limit legal immigrationDo they? Because it seems like they have proposals to reduce legal immigration.
Oh...and whine about the undocumented while hiring them, of course.
Oh...and pass no laws while in total control to do anything about "illegal immigration" at all. But this time it will be different!!! LMAO
Yes, Anchor is another check. There eventually will be three programs -- anchor, senior freeze and stay NJ.I just got my senior freeze check. Is there another check for the anchor program and is this stay NJ another program?
I'm pretty sure I never said WV and CA are "analogous". What I said about the two states isn't an attempt to establish an analogy.Didn't you say we can't compare the US and the UK because they're too different.
But WV and CA are somehow analogous?
As I keep pointing out, West Virginia has the fewest mass shootings of any state. And it’s tied for having the most permissive gun laws. You can bring a gun into the state and carry it without any permit. No mag restrictions. Far fewer types of semiautomatic guns or gun accessories banned, etc.
Meanwhile, CA has the toughest, most restrictive gun laws of any state. And it has, by far, the most mass shootings, by far.
Which says that whatever is causing so many mass shooting events, it’s probably not access to guns. I mean, if there was some way to magically eliminate every single gun in the nation instantly, mass shootings would cease, but mass killings will pretty obviously still occur using some other method, of which there are many. And it’s not remotely possible to eliminate every single gun in the US, or come even close.
Gun laws absolutely work for ordinary gun violence. Especially the waiting period built into the federal background checks required in every state. But most gun-specific gun laws are kind of useless for mass shootings, including school shootings. And there are new laws that can be implemented that can improve things.
But like I keep pointing out, the discussion always centers around bans that don’t fix mass shootings and can’t be implemented anyway. Which is why you wind with nothing improving. NYS implemented two new laws after its most recent event: they banned body armor (idiotic), and raised the age for purchasing certain guns. Ridiculous.
Haven’t seen proposals to limit legal immigration
I’m not hiring illegals, thank you, and I ran a business
Trumps “remain in Mexico” policy, which kept illegals on the Mexican side, was the most effective policy
Of course Biden undid that day one, for no good reason
Now we have millions of illegals being allowed in to stay
Nice work by Biden, right?
Here you go.
Republicans have plan to upend legal immigration
The GOP's Rep. Eli Crane of Arizona announced a bill to change how family-based visas work.www.newsweek.com
I didn't say what you do. Here's what a felon did.
Report: Trump Happily Employing Undocumented Workers Amid ICE Raids
The president is fine with an immigrant “invasion” when it’s benefitting him financially.www.vanityfair.com
President Biden didn't uphold the illegal Remain in Mexico plan, yes. I appreciate your point that Dems and not the felon party uphold the rule of law.
US court reverses Trump's 'Remain in Mexico' policy
The rule requiring asylum seekers to wait in the Mexico is likely to head to the US Supreme Court.www.bbc.com
will research the first two items, thanks, but number 3 is bullsquatHere you go.
Republicans have plan to upend legal immigration
The GOP's Rep. Eli Crane of Arizona announced a bill to change how family-based visas work.www.newsweek.com
I didn't say what you do. Here's what a felon did.
Report: Trump Happily Employing Undocumented Workers Amid ICE Raids
The president is fine with an immigrant “invasion” when it’s benefitting him financially.www.vanityfair.com
President Biden didn't uphold the illegal Remain in Mexico plan, yes. I appreciate your point that Dems and not the felon party uphold the rule of law.
US court reverses Trump's 'Remain in Mexico' policy
The rule requiring asylum seekers to wait in the Mexico is likely to head to the US Supreme Court.www.bbc.com
as to the legal immigration issue, read the articleHere you go.
Republicans have plan to upend legal immigration
The GOP's Rep. Eli Crane of Arizona announced a bill to change how family-based visas work.www.newsweek.com
I didn't say what you do. Here's what a felon did.
Report: Trump Happily Employing Undocumented Workers Amid ICE Raids
The president is fine with an immigrant “invasion” when it’s benefitting him financially.www.vanityfair.com
President Biden didn't uphold the illegal Remain in Mexico plan, yes. I appreciate your point that Dems and not the felon party uphold the rule of law.
asUS court reverses Trump's 'Remain in Mexico' policy
The rule requiring asylum seekers to wait in the Mexico is likely to head to the US Supreme Court.www.bbc.com
yesActually I don't think there was a final ruling on remain in Mexico. A '22 Supreme court decision said Biden has the right to terminate it, but remanded the rest back to the district court regarding whether it was constitutional. Probably dropped as moot.
https://www.texastribune.org/2022/0...ant-protection-protocols-remain-mexico-biden/
That is true. Never saw ANYONE bitch about the Legal immigrant ONLY those coming across our borders without being properly invited by their application. 4 years ago they called those opposed to illegal entry as … what else ? Give you a hint starts with an R and it ain’t for Rutgers. The despicable actions yesterday in DC were a disgrace. They shit on all of us by doing what they did yesterday . Sorry but that is a real threat to our Republic and the democracy we preach. People need to have some pride in what that symbol represents…Remembering people who actually would have kicked the crap out of the whiney rodents in front of Union Station. We may regret sooner than later allowing this type of “ PEACEFUL” protest to exist.Haven’t seen proposals to limit legal immigration
I’m not hiring illegals, thank you, and I ran a business
Trumps “remain in Mexico” policy, which kept illegals on the Mexican side, was the most effective policy
Of course Biden undid that day one, for no good reason
Now we have millions of illegals being allowed in to stay
Nice work by Biden, right?
We were talking about mass shootings, which are not the same as ordinary gun violence. And I've already said that gun laws work to prevent or limit ordinary gun violence.On a population basis, NJ is bottom 3 for gun violence and 1 or 2 in most strict laws...of course on a raw basis WV is low...it's one of the least populous states. It's like saying NB has less murders than NYC...
You can use your argument on an international basis too....Canada has less shootings...of course it has less people...also has less on a per capita basis...like...well...any developed country on the planet.
will research the first two items, thanks, but number 3 is bullsquat
biden ended remain in mexico, stopped deportations, the moment he came in the door... observe the date
yes, the matter eventually went to the supreme court, which made their decision
the fact is, if Biden did nothing, the remain in Mexico would be in effect, these illegals are staying in the states rather than being put back
Actually I don't think there was a final ruling on remain in Mexico. A '22 Supreme court decision said Biden has the right to terminate it, but remanded the rest back to the district court regarding whether it was constitutional. Probably dropped as moot.
https://www.texastribune.org/2022/0...ant-protection-protocols-remain-mexico-biden/
as to the legal immigration issue, read the article
the proposal is to limit the group immigration applications to immediate family
so, maybe all the aunts, uncles, second cousins don't come in, in bulk
and in some situations, they would waive the restriction, grandparents, etc
this is proposed to address the applications better, and keep a control on it
I would think you would agree that applicants should not include your second cousin, etc
but of course the blaring headline makes it sound like it is something it is not
We were talking about mass shootings, which are not the same as ordinary gun violence. And I've already said that gun laws work to prevent or limit ordinary gun violence.
You really have to separate the two because they don't correlate the same at all. The causes of ordinary gun violence and the causes of mass shootings seem entirely unrelated. If we want to solve mass shootings, especially school shootings, and I'm pretty sure we have universal agreement about wanting to do that, then we need to focus harder on the correct causes right?
Solutions that help prevent jilted lovers or gang-bangers from shooting one another seem to have no impact on people who spend long periods of time hatching a plan to kill a bunch of strangers, often for no particular reason at all. Instead of the instant rage which often dissipates with time (which is common to many violent crimes), mass murderers seem to develop rage that grows and grows and never recedes at all. And removing one method of killing won't stop them, it'll just lead to different and possibly even worse methods (e.g. bombs).
As for population, we already have different populations and different gun laws here in the US. Why would we waste time looking at Canada? Again, introducing other nations is unproductive and always winds up being ideological. It's a wishful thinking argument which is a waste of time because not everybody has the same wish.
We have a wonderful Biden record of ,what 11 million or so crossingsIs that why the amount of people crossing now is lower than Jan 21?
We have a wonderful Biden record of ,what 11 million or so crossings
Chew on that
Pay attentionYou said they're OK with legal. Proposals to limit indicates the opposite. Either you're for legal immigration or not. Where are the GOP proposals to make legal immigration easier in any way, shape or form?
Illegals flooding our border and crossingI agree. Immigration and refugees are wonderful and helped contribute to the soaring economy.
It's no wonder he won in a landslide and his VP has taken the lead in many polls against the felon and couch banger.