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I think Trump goes off script on occasion. Read that a lot of the last half of his acceptance speech was.
But it's hard to know for sure. The same when Trump says something that is manifestly untrue -- does he believe what he is saying or is he trying to deceive? The mainstream media assumes he knows that what he is saying is untrue, but that may not be the case a lot of the time.

Even he is just going off script or saying something wrong that he believes is true -- that can be a big problem for someone in a leadership position.

Apologies if I've crossed the line to what should be on the CE board.
 
But it's hard to know for sure. The same when Trump says something that is manifestly untrue -- does he believe what he is saying or is he trying to deceive? The mainstream media assumes he knows that what he is saying is untrue, but that may not be the case a lot of the time.

Even he is just going off script or saying something wrong that he believes is true -- that can be a big problem for someone in a leadership position.

Apologies if I've crossed the line to what should be on the CE board.

The non-Fox mainstream media assumes whatever is most negative. Fox the opposite. The most unbiased is the WSJ front pages. Hell, even their editorial page is better than MSNBC and Fox as they will criticize everybody. No worship.
 
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The non-Fox mainstream media assumes whatever is most negative. Fox the opposite.
I find it impossible to take seriously the intelligence of anyone who would take Fox seriously.
Didn't their own people pretty much admit that in the Dominion case ?
 
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I find it impossible to take seriously the intelligence of anyone who would take Fox seriously.
Didn't their own people pretty much admit that in the Dominion case ?
Not only in that case but in a Tucker Carlson defamation case. They argued successfully that no one really thinks Tucker is telling the truth. We all know he is a clown.
 
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Not only in that case but in a Tucker Carlson defamation case. They argued successfully that no one really thinks Tucker is telling the truth. We all know he is a clown.
I think for your "we", inclusion is more than a bit embarrassing.
 
Not only in that case but in a Tucker Carlson defamation case. They argued successfully that no one really thinks Tucker is telling the truth. We all know he is a clown.
The argument was not successful. That's why Fox paid so much to settle with Dominion. Carlson got fired later for that and for creating an abusive work environment.
 
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Not only in that case but in a Tucker Carlson defamation case. They argued successfully that no one really thinks Tucker is telling the truth. We all know he is a clown.
Fox is full of clowns and dopes that will say anything for a paycheck.
Who could ever take Hannity seriously ? Or Ingraham ?
 
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Fox is full of clowns and dopes that will say anything for a paycheck.
Who could ever take Hannity seriously ? Or Ingraham ?
Well
You have the other stations that pushed
Trump/ Russia collusion
That
Hunter laptop was Russian propaganda

Today they say Harris was not given the task of fixing the border, while there is news report after news report that she was given the assignment

And no, you don’t have to actually use the word czar, but she was assigned the task

Not to mention they now say she did not tell people to donate for the defense of Minnesota criminals, while all you have to do is look at her social page

Bottom line, they are all full of it
 
Well
You have the other stations that pushed
Trump/ Russia collusion
That
Hunter laptop was Russian propaganda

Today they say Harris was not given the task of fixing the border, while there is news report after news report that she was given the assignment

And no, you don’t have to actually use the word czar, but she was assigned the task

Not to mention they now say she did not tell people to donate for the defense of Minnesota criminals, while all you have to do is look at her social page

Bottom line, they are all full of it

Disappointed that the responses ignored half of what I pointed out. Expected for some but not others. But it's as true as the half they highlight.
 
Well
You have the other stations that pushed
Trump/ Russia collusion
That
Hunter laptop was Russian propaganda

Today they say Harris was not given the task of fixing the border, while there is news report after news report that she was given the assignment

And no, you don’t have to actually use the word czar, but she was assigned the task

Not to mention they now say she did not tell people to donate for the defense of Minnesota criminals, while all you have to do is look at her social page

Bottom line, they are all full of it
Only one inspired a mob to a last-ditch attempt to prevent the certification of the 2020 election by storming Congress, assaulting police officers, and hunting down members of Congress and the vice president. He should be in jail instead of campaigning for the highest office of the country he betrayed. Right next to the other traitors.
 
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I think for your "we", inclusion is more than a bit embarrassing.
The we was in terms of the attorney’s defense. The claim was everyone knew Tucker was not a serious truth telling news person and was not expected to be reporting truthfully
 
The we was in terms of the attorney’s defense. The claim was everyone knew Tucker was not a serious truth telling news person and was not expected to be reporting truthfully
I think you'd have to find a "serious truth-telling news person" for this to mean anything derogatory. Good luck. but Tucker's Fox show was an opinion show. Clearly.
 
According to Judge Vyskocil, “Fox persuasively argues . . . that given Mr. Carlson's reputation, any reasonable viewer arrives with an appropriate amount of skepticism about the statements he makes."
 
I think you'd have to find a "serious truth-telling news person" for this to mean anything derogatory. Good luck. but Tucker's Fox show was an opinion show. Clearly.
You should try Chris Hayes, Rachel Maddow, or Lawrence O'Donnell.
Or even Anderson Cooper.
The best is Mehdi Hasan.
I also enjoy watching Bianna Golodryga.
 
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But it's hard to know for sure. The same when Trump says something that is manifestly untrue -- does he believe what he is saying or is he trying to deceive? The mainstream media assumes he knows that what he is saying is untrue, but that may not be the case a lot of the time.

Even he is just going off script or saying something wrong that he believes is true -- that can be a big problem for someone in a leadership position.

Apologies if I've crossed the line to what should be on the CE board.

Yeah apply that on the other side
 
According to Judge Vyskocil, “Fox persuasively argues . . . that given Mr. Carlson's reputation, any reasonable viewer arrives with an appropriate amount of skepticism about the statements he makes."

You wont get covid if you take the vaccine
 
According to Judge Vyskocil, “Fox persuasively argues . . . that given Mr. Carlson's reputation, any reasonable viewer arrives with an appropriate amount of skepticism about the statements he makes."
You're right -- but that's not the same as saying, as you do, that Fox "argued successfully that no one really thinks Tucker is telling the truth." The case was dismissed because (and this may surprise you and others) saying someone has committed extortion is a statement of opinion, not an attempt to state a fact. In any case, my response above about the Dominion case was incorrect; I should have checked further. https://s3.documentcloud.org/documents/7216968/9-24-20-McDougal-v-Fox-Opinion.pdf
 
There's not two sides. There's the truth and whatever the cult is selling.
That's some BS. That you may believe that is just so sad for you and anyone who shares that belief. How many hoaxes must your "truth-tellers" be responsible for spreading before you wake up?

I think the answer is that you don't care. That it is "your truth". That your side has claimed ownership of the language and "the truth" and nothing can change that.

The worst thing about that is that this is exactly how totalitarianism takes hold and 99.9% of the people pushing that so-called "truth" will suffer for doing so. Once totalitarianism is here in the USA it will be all over teh world.. and technology will allow the enslavement of the vast, vast majority of the population.
 
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mind rot

anyhow....Tucker Carlson now has the #1 podcast in the country
How do you find the time to watch all that TV listen to podcasts and post 150 times a day? Your landscaping business must be doing terribly. Are you done with Basketball? Or is that just to spend the entirety of your life in the winter and spring? Your an example of how not to live a life.
 
So do ypu call Hunter Biden's laptop being Russian disinformation the truth?
Geez, I didn't say anything about Joe Biden's son. There is no one who gets every story right. Fox is just amazingly able to get them all wrong. Remind me...how much did they have to pay Dominion ?
 
How do you find the time to watch all that TV listen to podcasts and post 150 times a day? Your landscaping business must be doing terribly. Are you done with Basketball? Or is that just to spend the entirety of your life in the winter and spring? Your an example of how not to live a life.
Insults from the landscaper is the best indication that I'm on the money.
I swear he must have attended Trump University.
Wait...what ever happened to Trump University ?
 
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You're right -- but that's not the same as saying, as you do, that Fox "argued successfully that no one really thinks Tucker is telling the truth." The case was dismissed because (and this may surprise you and others) saying someone has committed extortion is a statement of opinion, not an attempt to state a fact. In any case, my response above about the Dominion case was incorrect; I should have checked further. https://s3.documentcloud.org/documents/7216968/9-24-20-McDougal-v-Fox-Opinion.pdf
I will try to find quotes from the attorney not what I posted from the judge. I believe the attorney was even more dismissive of Tucker's credibility.
 
You're right -- but that's not the same as saying, as you do, that Fox "argued successfully that no one really thinks Tucker is telling the truth." The case was dismissed because (and this may surprise you and others) saying someone has committed extortion is a statement of opinion, not an attempt to state a fact. In any case, my response above about the Dominion case was incorrect; I should have checked further. https://s3.documentcloud.org/documents/7216968/9-24-20-McDougal-v-Fox-Opinion.pdf
Let me add something: the mainstream media reviled Justice Thomas for suggesting that defamation law in this country has become too pro-media. But maybe he has a point. Should a statement that someone is an extortionist be protected as a statement of "opinion?" Isn't it a statement of fact? We want people free to express opinions, but have we correctly found the borderline between statements of opinion and statements of fact.
 
Insults from the landscaper is the best indication that I'm on the money.
I swear he must have attended Trump University.
Wait...what ever happened to Trump University ?
I just don’t get how you live your life in that manner. It’s so sad!! No woman but cats no real friends but plenty of fake internet friends he never met. The hours of the day he invests to hate bash others on that silly board is incredible. Cali wouldn’t piss on him if he was on fire but here they are the best of buddies. Then the way he completely wastes his time for the likes of 70 year olds during the basketball season is the saddest thing ever. Get a life !!!!
 
Geez, I didn't say anything about Joe Biden's son. There is no one who gets every story right. Fox is just amazingly able to get them all wrong. Remind me...how much did they have to pay Dominion ?

You said there's not two sides, and only one side is telling the truth. I said both sides fall short of the truth and provided an example
 
You’re so sad can you imagine if the internet did not exist. Your social life 365 days a year is the internet. You are not making things better for your side with your interactions with the old guys that feel the same as you. Go outside and meet new people and make real friends. Does it pain you heavily that most landscapers are Mexican and Central American? They are probably making more money than you since they are actually working. Shame shame shame for your family.
 
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You said there's not two sides, and only one side is telling the truth. I said both sides fall short of the truth and provided an example
Dumb. If one baseball player makes a few errors during the course of a season you don't put him in the same catgory as another baseball player that makes an error every day. The one that makes a few during a season is just showing that he's human. The other is showing that he shouldn't be playing baseball.
That analogy works for Fox and Cheetolini. Both lie every day...many times a day.
Don't insult anyone else by pointing out one error they made and comparing them to your boys, who lie like it's a bodily function.
 
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You’re so sad can you imagine if the internet did not exist. Your social life 365 days a year is the internet. You are not making things better for your side with your interactions with the old guys that feel the same as you. Go outside and meet new people and make real friends. Does it pain you heavily that most landscapers are Mexican and Central American? They are probably making more money than you since they are actually working. Shame shame shame for your family.
Ouch. That's gotta leave a mark.
Actually, my sister's son is a landscaper in Connecticut. He does quite well. But he doesn't post on a board like this, he doesn't worship Cheetolini, and he has a girlfriend.
 
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