OT: Sean Miller and AZ are screwed
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How satisfying would it be for these cheaters to have to exchange their $2000 suits for an orange jumpsuit? They thought they were above the law and rules and it finally caught up to them.
In all likelihood, they've been doing it for years (some more than others)... all get shamed, the worst might have to serve some time.
In all likelihood, they've been doing it for years (some more than others)... all get shamed, the worst might have to serve some time.
Agreed with you. Rice was stagnating as a coach but his firing brought us the worst coach in our history and set our already pathetic program back even further. Total overreaction.
I remember a certain know-it-all on this board defending the head coaches and saying that the head coaches didn’t know about the payments to recruits
To be fair...it takes a huge set of balls for a HC to do that and quite arrogant to do something this brazen.
The sneakers and handlers are another story and bad enough, but if the coaches are now directly involved in this stuff, it’s time for the NCAA to truly step in and punish hard to knock this crap off...before the sport as we know is messed up for good
It shows you how rampant this is if these coaches don't even care about trying to keep an arms length away.
This is what we have been competing with. Guaranteed Arizona isn't alone in this world.
This is what we have been competing with. Guaranteed Arizona isn't alone in this world.
The sport has been irrevocably messed up for a long time.
Lived through Littlepage also. Those teams at least tried....as did Littlepage. He didn’t just collect a paycheck.
If Miller somehow avoids jail or some type of criminal indictment / crime - it may take a few years but he'll land on his feet again somewhere at a smaller school. Somehow corrupt HC's such as Todd Bozeman and Kelvin Sampson resurrected themselves and given Miller's success - barring a criminal indictment - he will as well.
Next thing you know some of these Blue-Blood NCAA Elites will be offering their recruits hookers and fake classes !
Miller has a great agent!!
https://www.cbssports.com/college-b...him-more-from-arizona-if-hes-fired-for-cause/
https://www.cbssports.com/college-b...him-more-from-arizona-if-hes-fired-for-cause/
This is crazy. No wonder why nacho Miller was heard on tape. Nacho didn’t care. If he cheats and doesn’t get caught , he wins. If he cheats and gets caught, he wins . Nacho miller has to have the best agent around.
ESPN's reporting on this is intriguing.
The the lack of quotes or details in the original story leads me to believe that ESPN does not know directly what is on the recorded conversation(s).
ESPN's source may be a lawyer of, or someone connected with, one of the defendants.
Arizona might decide to fight ESPN. Even if they do decide to fight ESPN, Arizona is screwed. I guess it's just a matter of how screwed do they want to be.
The the lack of quotes or details in the original story leads me to believe that ESPN does not know directly what is on the recorded conversation(s).
ESPN's source may be a lawyer of, or someone connected with, one of the defendants.
Arizona might decide to fight ESPN. Even if they do decide to fight ESPN, Arizona is screwed. I guess it's just a matter of how screwed do they want to be.
I am thinking there is more substance than what has been released since he did not coach last night. I have to admit to being shocked that Ayton(sp) played last night. I know there are quotes from a lawyer representing the family saying the reports were false but...
Finally Mark Fox from UGA and Randy Edsall from UConn have my respect for speaking out indicating that this is an opportunity to clean things up in both sports.
Finally Mark Fox from UGA and Randy Edsall from UConn have my respect for speaking out indicating that this is an opportunity to clean things up in both sports.
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ESPN's reporting is based on Miller being on tape. That's what makes it sensational. Their talking heads already have Miller dead and buried. Bilas and Greenburg are saying he'll never coach again.
Yes, but has ESPN heard the recordings or even seen a transcript. Is what Miller said being told to ESPN in, or out of, context by their source. Who might be working for his former assistant.
You're right about their talking heads having Miller dead and buried. They actually reported that Arizona fired him.
Finding all that out would involve actual journalism. That kind of thing is in short supply at ESPN.
It appears that college basketball coaches/programs are in a "guilty until proven innocent" climate right now
I think we are beyond that. At this point its pretty clear that its time to stop pretending that the top players in the big sports are amateurs.
let the schools pay them what the market will bear. Everyone else gets a scholarship.
No - Rice needed to go. No one was going to come play for him after that, and every game would have been a protest. We mght look silly but thats because Rice and Bannon dude stupid stuff and got caught.
And frankly - the blame is on Rutgers for not making an all out push for someone better than Eddie Jordan. We get what we pay for - which is basically bottom of the barrel. That extends to Pike as well. We want to turn it around, we need to OVERspend on coaching, not underspend.
Until that happens we will continue to suck (in both sports - we got EXTREMELY lucky with Schiano)
The only time RU went all out for a coach that was a proven winner was Stringer. That was criticized relentlessly, though she's actually won a lot more than the other coaches RU has brought in here since they hired her.
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It will never happen that they will pay the top players, and it shouldn't. The idea of "well, everybody was breaking the rules, so we shouldn't have any," is not a solution. If it turns out that many of the programs were guilty of a steak dinner, while others paid six figures for kids, then the NCAA has to bite the bullet and start going through this. Or collapse. But in its place won't be the professionalization of college athletes. What might happen is a decent monthly expenses stipend (maybe $1000 a month) or something if it can be justified and be made comparable to other scholarships. But if they try to go for real payments, the rest of the college community (faculty, staff) simply won't stand for it. And again, nor should they. College isn't the D League.
Not a word? You are being sarcastic right?
ESPN broke the Sean Miller story, reported on the Arizona football team and on Allonzo Trier failing a NCAA drug test.
The fundamental problem is that amateurism is incompatible with the current college sports landscape. Something has to give eventually.
Fundamentally disagree. If the NCAA had any intestinal fortitude, problem could be solved in a year.
