Time to load up on SOFI shares especially if it drops below $15. This is possibly a once in a lifetime buying opportunity.
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For those of who invest in growth-type stocks, it looks like April & May were the best times to buy into the market. Market still looking strong and NASDAQ has been outpacing the S&P 500 recently.
I bought 30,000 shares at $17.5. I had previously been in at $15 and sold around $22. I am looking to purchase another 20,000 shares.
Why are you trading it if you think it’s a once in a life time opportunity? What’s different this time around?
I traded because I knew the lock-up period was coming up and the price was likely going to drop. 50% return in a few months is great and allows me to buy more shares at a lower price point.
I own SOFI - bought in January @ $19 (Was IPOE SPAC at that time). I also bought more two other times. The stock has been volatile recently. My personal investing philosophy is to hold any stock for at least three years - and hopefully much, much longer. With that, I don't think there is a bad price to buy SOFI at these days - at last anything under $20.
I guess once in a lifetime is too strong of a phrase. I would retract that part of my statement. It is more like possibly a great long term investment. There are now way too many fintech companies out there and established ones like paypal and square have a big lead which will be difficult for the other to overcome.
Tesla is already doing just about everything you're claiming they can't.
You should pay closer attention to what Tesla is doing. I suggest doing your own research on batteries, thermal management, manufacturing, and AI rather than listening to analysts, since most of them are clueless too.
How many GWh of batteries will Tesla use in 2022? Who's 2nd, 3rd, 4th...and by how much? What's the plan for 2025 and beyond? How long does it take to set up a battery manufacturing facility? How does the battery supply chain work? What's the advantage of Tesla's 4680 cells vs their competitors? If you can't answer any of these questions without looking it up, your opinion on "moats" and Tesla in general is worthless.
Another nice day for the markets. :)
And we have a new trillion dollar company:
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And we have a new trillion dollar company:
Facebook closes above $1 trillion market cap for the first time
Facebook stock spiked in late-day trading aided by a favorable legal ruling that dismissed an antitrust complaint brought by the FTC.
Well, your value plays align you with the Dow. I've been slowly moving back to my normal allocation of heavy growth/tech, but with a lean to value tech, not spec tech.
BIDU another good day for you
Other China names having a good one JD, PDD, VIPS
BABA needs to pay attn and follow
Party on:
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A key indicator shows we are past peak inflation fear, supporting the stock market rally
Over the past month, inflation fears have abated, and a chart diagramming the trend could be signaling the next leg up in the market.
BABA is up nearly 10% in a week. Question is, is this the start of a real move, or just another head fake. BABA is up about 10% yoy. It's also up about 10% from it's 2018 highs.
It's also down 25ish% from it all time highs in the fall.
I've been in and out of Tencent as well. Solid write up here.
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Certainly a couple camps on this.
I noted a week or so ago that the oil stocks have lagged behind the price of crude ytd(as well as precovid to now), which could be seen as a sign that people will continue to avoid the space or it could be seen as an oppurtunity.
I'm watching this one closely. Any signs of weakness and I will likely bail. I have reallocated out of most of my short-term value plays, except energy. I think it has some legs, especially if oil is going $80+. I'm up 40% overall on energy, so I won't be greedy.
Can't trust Chinese companies. The government can shut things down at any moment if they wish to do so. The financial reporting of these companies is also filled with potential flaws. I think the market is taking all that into account and therefore the significant discount for a supposedly high growth company with tremendous profit. I think until there is definite clarity in these matters, BABA and other Chinese stocks will bounce around. Any run up will be sold quickly.
Good point. I don't trust oil stocks. Too many ESG concerns. Even the index funds have tremendous degree of volatility. If I was to ever buy oil stocks, I would rather just find stocks with high beta who have either not fully recovered and buy those stocks.
Question about Employee Stock Option programs. Let's stay you get stock options with a strike price of $50. If that company issues new shares and share value is diluted, is the strike price adjusted or not?
I am very familiar with RSUs, but not option-based programs. Just curious.
I am very familiar with RSUs, but not option-based programs. Just curious.
A split or new shares? A split, yes. New shares, no. Assuming you're talking about ISO's or NQ options and not an ESOP.
I'm talking about employee stock option programs. Yes, I understand that a spilt would impact the strike price. Thanks for confirming that new issued shares would not. That's a risk, especially with small/new companies that will likely raise more money. I have a close friend interviewing for a small biotech and they are offering stock options, not RSUs.
Well my guess is that with a small biotech, especially a start up, and a 10 year exercise window the options will be worth a lot or nothing irrespective of whether new shares are issued. You rarely get a big jump with a company like that on a short term basis
It only a risk if your friend is getting enough shares to control and is worried about dilution. Otherwise, no additional risk.
I'm not sure what the exercise window is or vesting period. Personally, I avoid options like the plague. My current company is 100% RSUs for their LTI program and my past had a choice (options or RSUs). I always selected the RSUs.
Thanks, good info.
It may be changed by proposed tax legislation, and there are limits as to how many options can be granted, but since the 2017 tax bill was passed ISO's are the best of them all. Easily.
I agree on both of these topics. China's governmental policies are far too opaque. There are many other places invest your money.
As for oil stocks, this is an industry in decline. The upturn over the past six months ago has been good for traders, but the long term trends are decidedly against oil. Plus, the energy sector is especially volatile and often requires aggressive actions by bad actors in places like Saudi Arabia and Iran to make money.
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CNBC poll of traders(or mgr's maybe?) for the best performing sector in the 2nd half.
Financials, Tech, Energy. In that order.
Also had a graph up showing fwd p/e. Currently at 21x, which is down from about 24x which was it's post covid highs. Precovid highs were 19x from 2018 or 2019.
Financials, Tech, Energy. In that order.
Also had a graph up showing fwd p/e. Currently at 21x, which is down from about 24x which was it's post covid highs. Precovid highs were 19x from 2018 or 2019.
Hopefully "financials" also includes fintech. Otherwise, this sounds good to me!
Oil up almost 3% this morning!
U.S. crude oil prices top $75 a barrel, the highest since 2018
The advance came ahead of an OPEC+ meeting, which will decide production policy for the second half of 2021.
If both Financials and Tech are in the group, I would think Fintech should be in there too?Hopefully "financials" also includes fintech. Otherwise, this sounds good to me!
Oil up almost 3% this morning!
U.S. crude oil prices top $75 a barrel, the highest since 2018
The advance came ahead of an OPEC+ meeting, which will decide production policy for the second half of 2021.
So a pretty harsh CNBC segment on China this morning, based on the Xi comment of (paraphrasing) "we will no longer be bullied and if they do they will meet a great wall of steel".
But in the mix was the concern that China will soon absorb Taiwan much as it recently did with Hong Kong. And within that is the national security concern of semi conductors, given much of our semi's are made at the Taiwan Semi plant.
So my investing thought is get out of TSM, and perhaps get back into INTL, which is in the process of building new plants here in the US. Maybe a little early to get into INTL, but super cheap on current earning, and if you are willing to perhaps be flat for awhile, could pay off big in a couple years.
But in the mix was the concern that China will soon absorb Taiwan much as it recently did with Hong Kong. And within that is the national security concern of semi conductors, given much of our semi's are made at the Taiwan Semi plant.
So my investing thought is get out of TSM, and perhaps get back into INTL, which is in the process of building new plants here in the US. Maybe a little early to get into INTL, but super cheap on current earning, and if you are willing to perhaps be flat for awhile, could pay off big in a couple years.
I would not invest in Robinhood but here is their S-1 if anyone is interested for entertainment value or investing. As you probably know, FINRA just fined them $70 million or so for various reasons including options and margin related.
Why would you not invest?
I think it all comes down to whether you think the retail investor continues to be a growing segment. But they saw huge revenue growth, 300% maybe yoy.
They also paid a $70 million fine to get that growth. Is that in the price? And as things open up, to you think people will have as much time to stick it to the man and day trade penny stocks? And to what extent will their inability to condone the shit that got that fine inhibit future revenues?
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