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Competition for TSLA? Did they announce Mach E #'s?

I imagine most of this quarter is ICE.

But the street did like F's QTR unlike GM. F reinstated a dividend as well. .10 per share.
I didn’t dig too deep into the numbers/earnings. I’m not saying Ford is Tesla, but competition is here - period. Yes it will take some time and Tesla has a lead. Here is a blurb:

Farley said the company has annual demand for 200,000 electric Mustang Mach-E models and is moving quickly to boost output of EVs. The automaker is beginning to build the Mach-E in China, augmenting production in Mexico. Ford will have factory capacity “to build more than 1 million battery electric vehicles a year and I think we’ll need more,” Farley said.
 
Is there no end to the Tesla pumpers? Why do any of these people even track this stuff and then post on every social media outlet?! They must be getting paid or receiving some benefit from Tesla. Tesla enthusiasts don’t do anything for free. Nobody works for free.

No comment on the comparative numbers between F & TSLA?
 
I didn’t dig too deep into the numbers/earnings. I’m not saying Ford is Tesla, but competition is here - period. Yes it will take some time and Tesla has a lead. Here is a blurb:

Farley said the company has annual demand for 200,000 electric Mustang Mach-E models and is moving quickly to boost output of EVs. The automaker is beginning to build the Mach-E in China, augmenting production in Mexico. Ford will have factory capacity “to build more than 1 million battery electric vehicles a year and I think we’ll need more,” Farley said.
F and GM are 2 of my biggest positions, and I don't own TSLA, so I'm on board with the EV competition story.
 
Is there no end to the Tesla pumpers? Why do any of these people even track this stuff and then post on every social media outlet?! They must be getting paid or receiving some benefit from Tesla. Tesla enthusiasts don’t do anything for free. Nobody works for free.
But posts like this? This is just you saying stuff.
 
Looks like TSLA is 3.5 times more profitable per car vs. Ford.

F = Dinosaur
I invested in F and GM because I think they will indeed make significant headway into the EV market, AND they are currently way undervalued relative to both TSLA and the market itself(obviously more to the former)

And I do think TSLA's valuation is just too much to invest in, but anyone downplaying the execution of TSLA, the growth of the company, the lead they have in the EV market, or the other avenues their technology could go are just being ignorant.

I was in and out of TSLA the last time it hit $1000.......pre split. I missed a 4x run after that. I can admit that. Getting angry at a tweet that shows how well TSLA is executing makes little sense to me.
 
But posts like this? This is just you saying stuff.
Do you think Teslanomics, Teslarati, and all of these random Tesla enthusiasts, pump Tesla because they have nothing better to do? If you understand how influencers work, it’s all about the financial stream generated by the product manufacturers, advertisers, followers, etc. Tesla has reached a massive social media scale in this regard led by Musk. Most of these influencers are frauds. Now, I’m not saying it’s illegal. But, personally, I hate the influencer game just as much as the clowns that come on CNBC pumping an investment that they own boatloads of. Is Scaramucci going to come on Squawk Box and tell people that investing in crypto is risky? No way. Instead he’ll tell the audience that BTC is the equivalent of “beachfront Hampton property” hoping people jump on Coinbase to help him fulfill his $100K prophecy. Tesla is impressive no doubt. $1T market cap impressive? No way. Tesla, like certain Millennial investment plays, are fueled by unsophisticated retail investors but driven by big hedge funds. Once the hedge funds jump out of the driver’s seat the stock will have a major correction and leave the retail folks to crash and burn.
 
Do you think Teslanomics, Teslarati, and all of these random Tesla enthusiasts, pump Tesla because they have nothing better to do? If you understand how influencers work, it’s all about the financial stream generated by the product manufacturers, advertisers, followers, etc. Tesla has reached a massive social media scale in this regard led by Musk. Most of these influencers are frauds. Now, I’m not saying it’s illegal. But, personally, I hate the influencer game just as much as the clowns that come on CNBC pumping an investment that they own boatloads of. Is Scaramucci going to come on Squawk Box and tell people that investing in crypto is risky? No way. Instead he’ll tell the audience that BTC is the equivalent of “beachfront Hampton property” hoping people jump on Coinbase to help him fulfill his $100K prophecy. Tesla is impressive no doubt. $1T market cap impressive? No way. Tesla, like certain Millennial investment plays, are fueled by unsophisticated retail investors but driven by big hedge funds. Once the hedge funds jump out of the driver’s seat the stock will have a major correction and leave the retail folks to crash and burn.
So essentially you never want anyone to talk positively about anything. Got it.

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So essentially you never want anyone to talk positively about anything. Got it.

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How about people talk positively about products they use and believe in. Not just because someone is lining their pockets or there is a financial motive. I know right -what an archaic or novel idea.
 
Do you think Teslanomics, Teslarati, and all of these random Tesla enthusiasts, pump Tesla because they have nothing better to do? If you understand how influencers work, it’s all about the financial stream generated by the product manufacturers, advertisers, followers, etc. Tesla has reached a massive social media scale in this regard led by Musk. Most of these influencers are frauds. Now, I’m not saying it’s illegal. But, personally, I hate the influencer game just as much as the clowns that come on CNBC pumping an investment that they own boatloads of. Is Scaramucci going to come on Squawk Box and tell people that investing in crypto is risky? No way. Instead he’ll tell the audience that BTC is the equivalent of “beachfront Hampton property” hoping people jump on Coinbase to help him fulfill his $100K prophecy. Tesla is impressive no doubt. $1T market cap impressive? No way. Tesla, like certain Millennial investment plays, are fueled by unsophisticated retail investors but driven by big hedge funds. Once the hedge funds jump out of the driver’s seat the stock will have a major correction and leave the retail folks to crash and burn.
I have no idea and I don't really care.

You obviously care a ton, for some reason, though you don't actually know either.
 
How about people talk positively about products they use and believe in. Not just because someone is lining their pockets or there is a financial motive. I know right -what an archaic or novel idea.
And who can pass this purity test?

Anyone on YouTube = no
Anyone on CNBC = no
Any reporter or columnist = no
Any financial advisor = no
Anyone part of the company = no
Any individual investors = no

Hmm.....
 
How about people talk positively about products they use and believe in. Not just because someone is lining their pockets or there is a financial motive. I know right -what an archaic or novel idea.
Belly full seems to fit that bill, and you guys get all upset about it.
 
I have no idea and I don't really care.

You obviously care a ton, for some reason, though you don't actually know either.
I care about social media misinformation, marketing spin, and fraud. And so should you, at least if you have kids. Musk is a social media genius and has built a massive influencer network. Influencers are dangerous people. For example, if in the unlikely event BTC crashes and trillions are lost, do you think Scaramucci or CW will have any accountability after appearing dozens of times on CNBC to pump? Of course not. I’m not a huge fan of JD Power and they do charge certain fees, but an auto manufacturer can’t pay to boost survey results or influence the rating. The influencer model is a serious problem that doesn’t get enough attention.
 
I care about social media misinformation, marketing spin, and fraud. And so should you, at least if you have kids. Musk is a social media genius and has built a massive influencer network. Influencers are dangerous people. For example, if in the unlikely event BTC crashes and trillions are lost, do you think Scaramucci or CW will have any accountability after appearing dozens of times on CNBC to pump? Of course not. I’m not a huge fan of JD Power and they do charge certain fees, but an auto manufacturer can’t pay to boost survey results or influence the rating. The influencer model is a serious problem that doesn’t get enough attention.
C'mon.
 
And who can pass this purity test?

Anyone on YouTube = no
Anyone on CNBC = no
Any reporter or columnist = no
Any financial advisor = no
Anyone part of the company = no
Any individual investors = no

Hmm.....
I don’t disagree with you but it’s a sad commentary on society. But, I personally won’t abandon morals in favor of lining my pockets. I hold about 20 stocks that I truly believe in. But I don’t come on this forum pumping them with the hope people buy and make me richer. I don’t start websites dedicated to those companies. I don’t tweet about those companies. If someone is interested in my positions I’m happy to discuss. But I’m not pumping like Roaring Kitty and perhaps that’s why I don’t have $40M in the bank. Oh well…
 
Are you oblivious to all of the FB and social media crap going on right now? It’s on the news everyday. Whether it’s teen harassment, election tampering, vaccine conspiracy theories, it all comes down to the ability to influence on a massive scale with little to no accountability. Yes, influencers and those that perpetuate misinformation on a massive scale are extremely dangerous people.
 
And who can pass this purity test?

Anyone on YouTube = no
Anyone on CNBC = no
Any reporter or columnist = no
Any financial advisor = no
Anyone part of the company = no
Any individual investors = no

Hmm.....

Excluding individuals, all the others are openly compensated and do not pretend they are not. Influencers pretend.
 
Are you oblivious to all of the FB and social media crap going on right now? It’s on the news everyday. Whether it’s teen harassment, election tampering, vaccine conspiracy theories, it all comes down to the ability to influence on a massive scale with little to no accountability. Yes, influencers and those that perpetuate misinformation on a massive scale are extremely dangerous people.
Your veering way off topic here. Stocks. TSLA.
 
WOLF is ripping.

Beat on rev's less of loss then expected, guidance better then expected.

Great call there by whoever it was(I didn't get in).
 
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Defense stocks have been getting smashed on this quarters earnings. NOC down 7% today.
 
A group of friends founded a company initially called Cree Research, then just Cree. Today, Cree became WolfSpeed. Ticker WOLF. Shifting away from lighting to chips. Building a $1B manufacturing facility in NY, where one founder is from. EV is the big opportunity. Check it out.

Thank you a 2nd time. Gone from en fuego to on steriods.
 
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Thank you a 2nd time. Gone from en fuego to on steriods.
Yeah I bought WOLF. Up 40%. Thanks to the person with the tip! I almost doubled my position before earnings but was scared off by an article about competition in the SiC space. I’ll wait for the next dip to buy some more.
 
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LCID deliveries confirmed to begin 10/30. Up 25% today and now 100% from its dip in May. Very much interested to see how they scale production in the coming months.
 
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LCID deliveries confirmed to begin 10/30. Up 25% today and now 100% from its dip in May. Very much interested to see how they scale production in the coming months.
yeah I played that off the dip and lost it in on a call option. Made a little bit, but missed most of the run.
 
Yeah I bought WOLF. Up 40%. Thanks to the person with the tip! I almost doubled my position before earnings but was scared off by an article about competition in the SiC space. I’ll wait for the next dip to buy some more.
Not a tip. Just a solid under-the-radar prospect with a bourgeoning technology with terrific applications potential.
 
AAPL and AMZN are dropping after ER miss.
Buy the dip! Solid #'s for Apple:

Here’s how Apple did versus Refinitiv consensus estimates:

EPS: $1.24 vs. $1.24 estimated
Revenue: $83.36 billion vs. $84.85 billion estimated, up 29% year-over-year
iPhone revenue: $38.87 billion vs. $41.51 billion estimated, up 47% year-over-year
Services revenue: $18.28 billion vs. $17.64 billion estimated, up 25.6% year-over-year
Other Products revenue: $8.79 billion vs. $9.33 billion estimated, up 11.5% year-over-year
Mac revenue: $9.18 billion vs. $9.23 billion estimated, up 1.6% year-over-year
iPad revenue: $8.25 billion vs. $7.23 billion estimated, up 21.4% year-over-year
Gross margin: 42.2% vs. 42.0% estimated
 
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