Can I buy calls? Kidding.Now times that by 3.
Come join the TQQQ party.....if you dare!
I'm not ready to jump in yet, not off one bouncy day, and I still like the idea of buying individual stocks, but I'm keeping an eye out.
Can I buy calls? Kidding.Now times that by 3.
Come join the TQQQ party.....if you dare!
Maybe you can buy TQQQ on margin? 😜Can I buy calls? Kidding.
I'm not ready to jump in yet, not off one bouncy day, and I still like the idea of buying individual stocks, but I'm keeping an eye out.
I'm guessing that's the difference in adjusted EPS vs non adjusted or something along those lines.This is one of those things I can't quite figure out.
If you look up CRM's P/E it says 100x.
If you look at their ttm eps it's about $5. Which would make the P/E 40x. The P/E trend chart also backs up that it is 40x.
As I don't know where that 100x comes from I go with the 40x given the reported EPS. If anyone would care to explain why that is right or wrong, I'd appreciate it.
Like I said earlier, I fully expect to wake up to more Putin drama tomorrow. Putin needs to put on a show and reassure his people that he’s still The Man regardless of sanctions.Not that I want this to be a Russia Ukraine thread but,
Thousands join anti-war protests in Russia after Ukraine invasion
Police make more than 1,700 arrests as protesters take to the streets in cities across countryRussia-Ukraine crisis: live updateswww.theguardian.com
You do wonder if Putin stepped in a trap that he himself set.
I thought you said more money lost trying to time the market😀.FYI - if you bought TQQQ during the morning dip, you would have made a nice 22% by the close. :)
He just took over another country. What else does he need to prove? And let's be honest, the sanctions are pretty meh. He was worried about losing access to SWIFT and that didn't happen.Like I said earlier, I fully expect to wake up to more Putin drama tomorrow. Putin needs to put on a show and reassure his people that he’s still The Man regardless of sanctions.
Just trying to help out my trader friends!I thought you said more money lost trying to time the market😀.
He just took over another country. What else does he need to prove? And let's be honest, the sanctions are pretty meh. He was worried about losing access to SWIFT and that didn't happen.
+1All the warmongering neocon/neolibs are calling for Russia to be kicked out of the SWIFT system. That would be be a disaster because the Russians will have no choice but to sell that Gas and Oil to the Chinese. A Russia/Chinese alliance would be the worst possible outcome for the world.
The 100x is twelve month trailing PE. This is based on actual performance. Sometimes you see “forward PE,” which is based on projected earning—a guess or projection. So if growth and margins change from the assumptions made, forward PE is obviously going to change(I.e, be wrong). If I had to pick one, it would not be forward PE, but it’s prudent to look at multiple valuation metrics, including but not limited to, projected/possible growth. My biggest caveat regarding “FMV” is that it often includes future projections that may or may not come to fruition. My opinion, anyway….This is one of those things I can't quite figure out.
If you look up CRM's P/E it says 100x.
If you look at their ttm eps it's about $5. Which would make the P/E 40x. The P/E trend chart also backs up that it is 40x.
As I don't know where that 100x comes from I go with the 40x given the reported EPS. If anyone would care to explain why that is right or wrong, I'd appreciate it.
Yea but he’s saying if you look at ttm EPS it’s 5 bucks if you add up the qtr by qtr numbers but on these websites like CNBC it’s 1.84. The difference between the 5 and the 1.84 might be adjusted be non adjusted EPS is my assumption.The 100x is twelve month trailing PE. This is based on actual performance. Sometimes you see “forward PE,” which is based on projected earning—a guess or projection. So if growth and margins change from the assumptions made, forward PE is obviously going to change(I.e, be wrong). If I had to pick one, it would not be forward PE, but it’s prudent to look at multiple valuation metrics, including but not limited to, projected/possible growth. My biggest caveat regarding “FMV” is that it often includes future projections that may or may not come to fruition. My opinion, anyway….
I don’t follow CRM so this is a general comment.
Yea they mentioned that on Fast Money just now. They don’t know the reason. Fat finger trade lol.SQ up almost 30% in after hours. Glad I sold half my position last week LOL.
No I was looking at ttm eps. Last 4 qtrs.The 100x is twelve month trailing PE. This is based on actual performance. Sometimes you see “forward PE,” which is based on projected earning—a guess or projection. So if growth and margins change from the assumptions made, forward PE is obviously going to change(I.e, be wrong). If I had to pick one, it would not be forward PE, but it’s prudent to look at multiple valuation metrics, including but not limited to, projected/possible growth. My biggest caveat regarding “FMV” is that it often includes future projections that may or may not come to fruition. My opinion, anyway….
I don’t follow CRM so this is a general comment.
They say guidance making it pop. Must be really good.Yea they mentioned that on Fast Money just now. They don’t know the reason. Fat finger trade lol.
Looks like the 40x P/E is actual and based on 2021. $4B in profit, $200B market cap now. Right?The 100x is twelve month trailing PE. This is based on actual performance. Sometimes you see “forward PE,” which is based on projected earning—a guess or projection. So if growth and margins change from the assumptions made, forward PE is obviously going to change(I.e, be wrong). If I had to pick one, it would not be forward PE, but it’s prudent to look at multiple valuation metrics, including but not limited to, projected/possible growth. My biggest caveat regarding “FMV” is that it often includes future projections that may or may not come to fruition. My opinion, anyway….
I don’t follow CRM so this is a general comment.
If you didn’t, it would be down 30%. You took one for the other shareholders.SQ up almost 30% in after hours. Glad I sold half my position last week LOL.
I laugh because I feel your pain. Not on SQ, but have def been there. Slack was one I sold just before CRM announced they were buying it.SQ up almost 30% in after hours. Glad I sold half my position last week LOL.
Yea they mentioned that on Fast Money just now. They don’t know the reason. Fat finger trade lol.
Sounds like a huge earnings beat! And guidance on their Afterpay acquisition.SQ up almost 30% in after hours. Glad I sold half my position last week LOL.
It’s basically a trading mistake. I’m not even sure how possible it is anymore with algorithms.What's a "fat finger" trade? hitting the wrong button?
I think this is the reason why CW/ARK dumped it.PLTR investing in SPACS in exchange that SPAC then buying PLTR services.
Sounds legit.
Whoever recommended SBLK a few weeks ago at around $19 gets my vote for pick of the month!looking to buy some SBLK March 18th puts.
Ex Dividend date is March 1st, paying a $2 dividend on a $29 stock. Thinking it could sell off on the backside of the ex date.
That was me. Pretty sure I was responding to you looking for dividend plays.Whoever recommended SBLK a few weeks ago at around $19 gets my vote for pick of the month!
Looks like the 40x P/E is actual and based on 2021. $4B in profit, $200B market cap now. Right?
I was glad to see that.Not that I want this to be a Russia Ukraine thread but,
Thousands join anti-war protests in Russia after Ukraine invasion
Police make more than 1,700 arrests as protesters take to the streets in cities across countryRussia-Ukraine crisis: live updateswww.theguardian.com
You do wonder if Putin stepped in a trap that he himself set.
As per trailing P/E vs fwd P/E, while trailing is concrete and fwd is merely estimated, I do think the market absolutely puts more weight in fwd.The 100x is twelve month trailing PE. This is based on actual performance. Sometimes you see “forward PE,” which is based on projected earning—a guess or projection. So if growth and margins change from the assumptions made, forward PE is obviously going to change(I.e, be wrong). If I had to pick one, it would not be forward PE, but it’s prudent to look at multiple valuation metrics, including but not limited to, projected/possible growth. My biggest caveat regarding “FMV” is that it often includes future projections that may or may not come to fruition. My opinion, anyway….
I don’t follow CRM so this is a general comment.
But the question is where are they getting the EPS? I see a trailing EPS of $5. @rutgersguy1 thinks the distinction is EPS vs adjusted EPS which would make sense. Doesn't makes sense why they(in my case etrade) would present 2 different options without noting the distinction.Salesforce PE Ratio Trends | YCharts
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I don’t follow the stock but trailing pe is based on current price divided by the earning per share over the past twelve months. Forward PE aid based on projected earnings.
You really believe that? Today I’ve heard for the first time that the U.S. is now considering offensive cyber measures against Russia. Putin increasingly isolated and some question about his paranoid mental status
+1US/NATO is mostly Bozos
If US plays a cyber card it will blow-up in our faces hard and fast (July pipeline shutoff was just a taste)
America sucks at cyber
Putin is another story .
Ukraine officials were on FB telling citizens to arm themselves and fight Russians
Ukraine troops were going AWOL
Ukrainians on socials were saying the strikes might be over in hours and not days
Unfortunately a lot of US and NATO blowhards gave Ukraine beer muscles
They thought they were up to tasks and that US, NATO and others had their backs
Now they've been hood-slapped
We have silly talk about Europe - who gets oil, wheat etc from Russia - "sanctioning" Russia.
As one commentator said "that's like a drug addict sanctioning his dealer."
If Joey Marbles was serious he would fire-up oil and gas production in US and cut Putin's bank
Marbles actually has US buying Russian oil - 7% of US consumption as I recall
The Ukraine thing didn't have to happen (nor did Afghanistan abortion)
The troubles should stay in Eurasia and could probably simmer down
The problem is US is lead by a chimera cadre of corrupt grifters, psychological weirdos and dopes
WWI was dopes doing dopey things
Now we hope US tards dont screw-up (as they do 100%) and wait for Taiwan because its 100% thats next
Have your tuna and flashlights ready - back-up your data - just in case the Bozos strike
EPS is a ratio, not a dollar amount.But the question is where are they getting the EPS? I see a trailing EPS of $5. @rutgersguy1 thinks the distinction is EPS vs adjusted EPS which would make sense. Doesn't makes sense why they(in my case etrade) would present 2 different options without noting the distinction.
+1
Seems like this will be over extremely soon and with only modest consequences for Putin/Russia.
Biden’s speech this afternoon seemed to indicate this will not be over quickly unless Putin retreats, which ain’t happening. I don’t see how either side backs down without looking weak. I think we are in for a roller-coaster stock market for the next week or two at a minimum.+1
Seems like this will be over extremely soon and with only modest consequences for Putin/Russia.
Try telling the people of Ukraine he took over. The way you are acting, I am beginning to think YOU ARE V. PUTIN.He just took over another country. What else does he need to prove? And let's be honest, the sanctions are pretty meh. He was worried about losing access to SWIFT and that didn't happen.
The West/NATO doesn’t need to look strong. They just need to stay United and de-escalate.Biden’s speech this afternoon seemed to indicate this will not be over quickly unless Putin retreats, which ain’t happening. I don’t see how either side backs down without looking weak. I think we are in for a roller-coaster stock market for the next week or two at a minimum.
Here you go. EPS excluding extraordinary items 1.84. EPS Normalized Annual 4.49But the question is where are they getting the EPS? I see a trailing EPS of $5. @rutgersguy1 thinks the distinction is EPS vs adjusted EPS which would make sense. Doesn't makes sense why they(in my case etrade) would present 2 different options without noting the distinction.