OT: Tranghese SEC BB Consultant

[CoralKnight]

The SEC is turning to former Big East Commissioner to help improve the league's basketball profile and NCAA Tournament presence

http://www.pantagraph.com/sports/co...cle_5c6ff570-7303-591e-84a4-f736aa91dab7.html

 

[Mr_Twister]

Has he learned that football drives the bus?

 

[RUinFla]

He was considered to be a weak commissioner in his old gig. Let's see, there's Kentucky and then you start running into scandal-plagued schools. Glad he's not in the Big 10.
TL

 

[LC-88]

Wow. I'd rather give my wife a big pile of money, than The Trained One.

 

[SirScarlet]

I seriously hate that piece of garbage

Jagoff extraordinaire

 

[KJ_RU]

Providence to the SEC!

 

[Scarlet83]

The SEC is turning to former Big East Commissioner to help improve the league's basketball profile and NCAA Tournament presence

http://www.pantagraph.com/sports/co...cle_5c6ff570-7303-591e-84a4-f736aa91dab7.html

So it will cost the SEC $200,000 for them to hear his secret to basketball success...
-protect Providence College (when asked what would the recently departed Dave Gavitt would give for advise...it was this..."protect Providence College").

Seriously... That's what he said on the radio. No wonder big east football was screwed.

Tranghese is a piece of crap.

 

[RUMountie]

Transcript of first meeting between SEC basketball coaches and Tranghese:

Tranghese: "Coaches I have a proven plan to make basketball the top dawg in the SEC and to Hell with football! "

Coaches: "Pasta boy. You out your fuking mind! Get yo ass back to Rhode island! "

 

[_dave_]

Step 1 is to get the members of the tennis clubs on Long Island to talk SEC basketball.

 

[LotusAggressor]

Tranghese couldn't find his ass with both hands. SEC basketball is doomed.

 

[Caliknight]

This is like commissioning Hugo Chavev to build a successful, thriving country.

Has anyone in life been a bigger failure than Mike Tranghese?

 

[IMARUFAN]

Yeah, Tranghese will be like, "Basketball Rules!"

And the SEC AD's be like

 

[rubaseball78]

I guess they are going after the Long Island tennis crowd. We all know they have no interest in RU/Minny games.

 

[BigLou]

A few weeks ago there was some discussion on WFAN that was cause for Tranghese's name to come up. Mike Francesa said that Tranghese was the smartest guy in college sports. I nearly fell off my chair.

 

[RUMountie]

A few weeks ago there was some discussion on WFAN that was cause for Tranghese's name to come up. Mike Francesa said that Tranghese was the smartest guy in college sports. I nearly fell off my chair.

That tells you all you need to know about Francesa's knowledge of college sports.

 

[LotusAggressor]

A few weeks ago there was some discussion on WFAN that was cause for Tranghese's name to come up. Mike Francesa said that Tranghese was the smartest guy in college sports. I nearly fell off my chair.

And yet there are people who actually think Francessa knows what he's talking about. This is evidence that he obviously does not.

 

[JPhoboken]

 

[Russ Wood]

All of his suggestions in that article make good sense. I have told people for a year that it is dumb that the SEC Network doesn't have a basketball show. They're all scared of Calipari, but they need to use him as a mouth piece for the conference the way K and Dean Smith were for the ACC.

Most of the SEC programs do not embrace football and use it to their advantage. Billy Donovan was good at that and so is Bruce Pearl. Barnes might be since he came over from Texas.

But the bottom line is better OOC scheduling and winning those games.

One SEC team, who was 6-6 before conference play began, played home games against:
Southern
Charleston Southern
Northwestern State
Tennessee Tech
North Florida
Akron (lost that one)

You can't schedule like that and then only win 16 regular season games. Particularly if your losses were to Georgia Tech, Stanford, Wake Forest, Mercer and Dayton (okay Dayton is pretty good)

 

[seels2662]

You can't make Calipari the mouth piece...its just a matter of time before he's in trouble again and then your mouthpiece has made things worse.

 

[srru86]

 

[Russ Wood]

You can't make Calipari the mouth piece...its just a matter of time before he's in trouble again and then your mouthpiece has made things worse.

When was he in trouble? I don't recall the NCAA sanctioning him or determining that he did anything wrong other than allowing Derrick Rose's brother to fly on the team plane and stay in the team hotel on road trips.

 

[Sideline20]

When was he in trouble? I don't recall the NCAA sanctioning him or determining that he did anything wrong other than allowing Derrick Rose's brother to fly on the team plane and stay in the team hotel on road trips.

Check out the 1996 UMass team that was stripped of its Final 4 appearance. I think Cal was in a lot of trouble with the NCAA. Camby took $$ and some other shenanigans.

 

[Mr_Twister]

From the Calipari file. A 2010 article included this ... Just because it was more than a few years ago does not mean it did not happen.

In 1996, a 35-2 University of Massachusetts team coached by John Calipari made it all the way to the Final Four. A year later, because of a tangled scandal involving Marcus Camby, jewelry, and hookers, the NCAA stripped UMass of its tournament victories, forced the school to pay back $151,617 in tournament revenues, and expunged the team's accomplishments from the official record book. Then, in 2008, a 38-2 Memphis team coached by John Calipari made it all the way to the championship game. A year later, because of a tangled scandal involving papier-mâché SAT scores, the NCAA stripped Memphis of its tournament victories, forced the school to pay back more than $500,000 in tournament revenues, and expunged the team's accomplishments from the official record book.

This is awe-inspiring. Two schools, at different times and in different places, both with their greatest seasons erased from the record books, and both of them coached by the same guy. None of college basketball's other historic buccaneers ever pulled this off. Not Jerry Tarkanian at Long Beach and UNLV. Not Norm Ellenberger, the New Mexico coach who came a cropper because he committed recruiting violations over a telephone that already had been tapped by the FBI. Not even the late Dana Kirk, one of Calipari's predecessors at Memphis, whose corruption was so blatant that he actually went to prison. None of these legends have accomplished what John Calipari's programs have.

 

[Russ Wood]

Yep those two things happened but the NCAA didn't sanction him or determine that he did anything wrong.

We're not talking Clem Haskins, Kelvin Sampson, Larry Brown or even Frank Haith situations when the head coach was found to have violated rules.

The Derrick Rose situation still makes me laugh. The NCAA received his ACT score, accepted it and declared him qualified for an athletic scholarship. Then after the season is over decides "our bad".

Shameful

 

[LotusAggressor]

Does Calipari really need to cheat at Kentucky? All he needs to do is bring the latest HS phenom for a visit and point at all the pictures of the guys he coached who were lottery picks.

 

[Caliknight]

Kentucky had a long history of cheating. Would it really surprise anyone if they were currently?

 

[Russ Wood]

Kentucky had a long history of cheating. Would it really surprise anyone if they were currently?

The only type of cheating I think they'd need to do now is keeping players eligible. With Coach Cal, and the current rules, they are selecting more than recruiting kids. They'd have to be incredibly dumb to cheat at recruiting now.

People fixate on Coach Cal, even though he has never been sanctioned by the NCAA, and I get the hatred -- he wins a lot. But people don't have nearly the fixation on Larry Brown and/or his coaching staff's actual cheating -- at three different schools.

I've always found that interesting.

 

[LotusAggressor]

The only type of cheating I think they'd need to do now is keeping players eligible. With Coach Cal, and the current rules, they are selecting more than recruiting kids. They'd have to be incredibly dumb to cheat at recruiting now.

People fixate on Coach Cal, even though he has never been sanctioned by the NCAA, and I get the hatred -- he wins a lot. But people don't have nearly the fixation on Larry Brown and/or his coaching staff's actual cheating -- at three different schools.

I've always found that interesting.

People don't focus on Larry Brown's cheating because he's considered a "guardian of the game", a protector of fundamentals and "the right way to play" against the onslaught of And 1 mixtape basketball. He's really no different from all these other sleazebags. He just has a better act.

 

[playorbplayd]

The only type of cheating I think they'd need to do now is keeping players eligible. With Coach Cal, and the current rules, they are selecting more than recruiting kids. They'd have to be incredibly dumb to cheat at recruiting now.

People fixate on Coach Cal, even though he has never been sanctioned by the NCAA, and I get the hatred -- he wins a lot. But people don't have nearly the fixation on Larry Brown and/or his coaching staff's actual cheating -- at three different schools.

I've always found that interesting.

General public seems to hate Cal more, media tends to get on Brown more. LB is more likely to give the media the finger, they love getting on him. Everyone cheats, who cares. Cal is the poster boy for it, we all know who the NCAA actually chooses to sanction (or not) means little to nothing for how clean a program is.

Cal is easy to point to for your average fan, past two programs had their best seasons wiped off the board and now he heads the most powerful program in the country.

There's one (ok maybe two) reasons Pitino still has his job at Louisville...money/wins. 99% of the HC's in the country don't survive last offseason at Louisville.

The "who's cheating" argument is a waste of time, show me a high major program that hasn't been sanctioned or accused of it, and I'll show you a program that hasn't really won anything.

 

[Russ Wood]

show me a high major program that hasn't been sanctioned or accused of it, and I'll show you a program that hasn't really won anything.

Florida?

 

[playorbplayd]

Florida?

touche, not since the early 90's...

exception, not the rule unfortunately.

 

[Russ Wood]

touche, not since the early 90's...

exception, not the rule unfortunately.

Maryland?

 

[playorbplayd]

Maryland?

GW ran it pretty clean, then they got sick of it and pushed him out. Any school you name there's rumors all over the place, whether they're true or not. But you're correct, nothing major for them since late 80's early 90's also.

Are we talking what is actually done or who the NCAA actually looks into and investigates?

 

[Caliknight]

The only type of cheating I think they'd need to do now is keeping players eligible. With Coach Cal, and the current rules, they are selecting more than recruiting kids. They'd have to be incredibly dumb to cheat at recruiting now.

People fixate on Coach Cal, even though he has never been sanctioned by the NCAA, and I get the hatred -- he wins a lot. But people don't have nearly the fixation on Larry Brown and/or his coaching staff's actual cheating -- at three different schools.

I've always found that interesting.

Every school he has been at has been sanctioned. As he says, the head coach knows. I can't believe he didn't know what was going on under him, just as he wouldn't.

I don't hate Calipari, and I won't be surprised when Kentucky gets sanctioned or investigated. Too much hijinx going on throughout basketball and Kentucky has a long history of it. Thrown in a Calipari and well, let's see how it all goes.

 

[Russ Wood]

Gary Williams was not pushed out. Nobody pushes Gary Williams. You might be thinking of Maryland's football coach who eventually became a Rutgers assistant. He was pushed out.

 

[playorbplayd]

Gary Williams was not pushed out. Nobody pushes Gary Williams. You might be thinking of Maryland's football coach who eventually became a Rutgers assistant. He was pushed out.

Never asked the man personally, but I've talked to people who would know and by all accounts they pushed him on out. Could I be wrong? 100%, but I'm pretty confident his retirement was sped up because of his refusal to play the AAU game.

 

[bingethinker]

Never asked the man personally, but I've talked to people who would know and by all accounts they pushed him on out. Could I be wrong? 100%, but I'm pretty confident his retirement was sped up because of his refusal to play the AAU game.

Gary Williams was most definitely not fired or pushed out. He's said this on multiple occasions. He considered retiring a couple of years before he did, but he didn't.

Gary Williams still works for UMD. He's in charge of fundraising for special athletic projects. He worked on raising money for the new Terrapin Performance Center (indoor football facility) which is currently under construction. He was also solicitating high level donors for the new basketball practice facility last year.

Gary is a winner of a national championship and is enshrined in all relevant basketball halls of fame. LOL @ the thought of him having been fired but still working for the university. College Park would've gone nuts if that happened.