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BIL currently in prison and they were not given shots or told that there would be...BIL did in fact get COVID19 about a month ago. Got a little sick but not much else. Even without major symptoms- the prison did make him complete a will.
Also- has been pissing us off all year- all these high profile and a lot of child molesters and violent crime people asking for and being released because of COVID. He is not in on violent- and was due to be released in Nov if he had finished a specific 300 hour program. The program was paused because of COVID and he only had 30 hrs left. Instead of releasing him early as planned, he has been pushed to a later release.
I’m a healthcare worker in NJ prison system. Child molesters are not getting out. Not any different than how they normally would.

also, no prisoner has been vaccinated anywhere in north Jersey. I’ve heard nothing about the south Jersey prison someone mentioned earlier. But I’m not gonibg to refute him because I don’t know.

Also, there have been no prison visited since March, I believe. If they get it, which they are, it’s being brought in by the workers.

I have no opinion on whether they get vaccinated or not, but I understand why. When a police office arrests someone, they become responsible for their well being. Same in prison. The government is responsible for them. And, yes, I would feel better if everyone there was vaccinated, herd immunity in workplace. But I’m not quitting if it does not happen. I also have a wife and four teenaged sons, I would love for them to get it, but I understand why they will be the last to get it.

I was vaccinated 10 days ago. No side effects. I felt very relieved to have it. And am very glad I did.

Listen, all of the worlds greatest scientists are working on this. If they were taking ten different avenues to a vaccine, I’d be more worried. But the all (almost) believe the mRNA vaccine is the way go.

finally, I would feel much better if everyone had to get the vaccine, but I’m not about forcing people, just informing them. I will correct them when ignorance is being spread, not online though. And there’s slot of ignorance here. Just read the facts. Stay off of websites that are not trusted, reputable sources.
 
Or, so alpha that the guy running the county site calls you and says “we have a few time slots that nobody signed up for and if they aren’t filled the vaccine will go bad”. Kind of like when people think you are important enough to let you know the school cafeteria has extra cookies at the end of the night.
Haven't had cookies from a cafe since middle school. They were great though. They never hit me up to buy though, was always a me decision.
 
I am over 65 and have a home in Florida and NJ. I got the vaccination on Jan 2 in Florida. I was in the first round for my age group. The county I live in is up to the 4th round of giving available vaccine to anyone over 65. My friends in NJ my age have no idea when they might get the vaccination. Things seem to be moving much faster in Florida. They want you to wait 4 weeks for the second shot and they think there will be a lot more vaccine available by then. The idea here is to get the vaccine into as many people as possible as quick as possible. The state is not holding back a large quantity of vaccine.
NJ has vaccinated a higher percentage of our population than Florida has. Your stories don't matter. Facts do.
 
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I’m not clear on this, but are we saying that even people that are vaccinated can spread it? If true then even if everyone is vaccinated there is a probability of people spreading/ contracting COVID and dying. We just lowered the probability. Yes/No?

If folks that receive the vaccine are totally in the company of others outside their family who have vaccinated, will they go back to interacting normally? There’ll always be new strains.
Since no one answered this I will. If you're inoculated with the vaccine and it's a successful inoculation(94.5% of the time) the virus can't live in you. Your immune system recognizes it and kills it before it can replicate. You can't pass on a dead virus.

The Flu is one which has shown new strains or mutations quickly, which is why we have different Flu shots each year. Covid-19 hasn't shown this capability yet. It may have become easier to spread(not proven yet) meaning it can live longer outside a host but hasn't changed how it attacks the body. If it does mutate, it's not showing that it will mutate quickly and will take years. Thus the vaccine will still be viable for years.

Right now they're going to give people the freedom of choice on vaccinations. If they find enough people don't want to take it to reach that 80% herd immunity threshold, they'll start implementing that's it's required to work in Government offices or facilities, public schools, health care and such. Still don't reach that 80% they'll make it a requirement for all citizens just like the Polio vaccine. Somehow, someway, they'll reach that herd immunity numbers. They won't let misinformation from the gullible perpetuate a global pandemic.
 
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It will happen. Watch how fast things pick up in next few weeks.
Unfortunately its crawling along through the first 3 weeks. If you listen to Cuomo and others it might be 3 months more before 1b is completr
 
It's bad enough I have to read about Murph the Surf on this site. Please don't mention Cuoomo as well.
 
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I'm a healthcare worker.

I would say that there has been an awful job with educating the public on these vaccines. People think an "RNA vaccine" will make them grow 2 heads or a third nipple. Anything that's has to do with anything genetic the public mistrusts. Same goes for GMOs. It's completely unfounded and harmful to society.
GMO's, it's not the plant, it's what the mutation allows them to put on the plant. Insecticides such as Roundup that should cause people concern. A GMO plant by itself poses no threat.
 
NJ has vaccinated a higher percentage of our population than Florida has. Your stories don't matter. Facts do.
I am telling you my experience. I live in both Florida and NewJersey. Florida is giving the vaccine to healthy 65+ age group and NJ is not. I looked it up and Florida had also administered a higher % of the vaccine than NJ. My story is based on facts and personal experience- what is yours based on????
 
I am telling you my experience. I live in both Florida and NewJersey. Florida is giving the vaccine to healthy 65+ age group and NJ is not. I looked it up and Florida had also administered a higher % of the vaccine than NJ. My story is based on facts and personal experience- what is yours based on????

Data that was "formerly" accurate.
 
I am telling you my experience. I live in both Florida and NewJersey. Florida is giving the vaccine to healthy 65+ age group and NJ is not. I looked it up and Florida had also administered a higher % of the vaccine than NJ. My story is based on facts and personal experience- what is yours based on????
Checking out what you said ( would like to see your info source because this doesn't seem like Flordia is doing a good job, but Jersey might be worse as you imply))
South Florida Sun Sentinel |
Jan 07, 2021

As of Wednesday, Florida had provided the first dose of the vaccine to more than 369,600 people, including more than 148,200 people older than 65, according to the Department of Health.

Based on CDC data as of Tuesday, Florida has been one of the slower states to administer the vaccine, using about 23% of its available doses, according to an USA Today analysis. The worst-performing state was Kansas, which had used 15% of its available doses. South Dakota, the best-performing state, had administered 62% of its available doses.



https://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/politics/fl-ne-florida-covid-vaccine-breakdown-20210107-nlvgmsnydfgzxcmtgrkwvla6fq-story.html\
 
I am telling you my experience. I live in both Florida and NewJersey. Florida is giving the vaccine to healthy 65+ age group and NJ is not. I looked it up and Florida had also administered a higher % of the vaccine than NJ. My story is based on facts and personal experience- what is yours based on????

I live in FL and my wife and I both got the vaccine yesterday on 1/9/2021 as part of the 65 & over group. Reservation for our next shot on 2/6, four weeks later. FL is vaccinating medical personnel and anyone 65+ currently.

Our county is currently using Event Brite online to make an appt. Competitive to get into the site when vaccine is available but very efficient on the delivery end. We were vaccinated 20 mins after we drove into the parking garage at the hospital. As more vaccine becomes available they will be using more drive up facilities.

The goal should be to vaccinate as many people ASAP. Disappointing that so much vaccine is on hand but not being injected throughout the country.
 
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Your entire Staff in your office is allowed ?

Is this just NJ ?

Mary Anne is working a couple days a week as Dental Hyg in NY.

According to CDC recommendations...all dental staff are to be included in 1A. She is definitely included.
 
tgm is correct cdc's latest stats show Fla is about 10% better than nj in # of inoculations--there is a website but the "experts" can go find find it themselves
 
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I live in FL and my wife and I both got the vaccine yesterday on 1/9/2021 as part of the 65 & over group. Reservation for our next shot on 2/6, four weeks later. FL is vaccinating medical personnel and anyone 65+ currently.

Our county is currently using Event Brite online to make an appt. Competitive to get into the site when vaccine is available but very efficient on the delivery end. We were vaccinated 20 mins after we drove into the parking garage at the hospital. As more vaccine becomes available they will be using more drive up facilities.

The goal should be to vaccinate as many people ASAP. Disappointing that so much vaccine is on hand but not being injected throughout the country.
that's GREAT
 
Can I be the @$$hole and say over 65+ shouldn't be in the Stage 1 group? 😈

After essential/health care workers, it should be teachers and school children.

Offices can't fully open until kids are back in school and the threat of a 14 day quarantine isn't around the corner every day.

Once schools are fully open, then everything else will be able to open.

Note - I say this as a father of 2 toddlers currently in a 14 day quarantine from daycare because we traveled out of state over Xmas.

Okay all you old people, take your shots!
 
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I am telling you my experience. I live in both Florida and NewJersey. Florida is giving the vaccine to healthy 65+ age group and NJ is not. I looked it up and Florida had also administered a higher % of the vaccine than NJ. My story is based on facts and personal experience- what is yours based on????
The data on the bloomberg vaccine tracker.
 
update--the numbers now show fla abut 7% better per 100K in number of those given shot
 
Can I be the @$$hole and say over 65+ shouldn't be in the Stage 1 group? 😈

After essential/health care workers, it should be teachers and school children.

Offices can't fully open until kids are back in school and the threat of a 14 day quarantine isn't around the corner every day.

Once schools are fully open, then everything else will be able to open.

Note - I say this as a father of 2 toddlers currently in a 14 day quarantine from daycare because we traveled out of state over Xmas.

Okay all you old people, take your shots!
I don't know why people feel they have to tell anyone where they go and when they do it. My family and I have left the state 4 times since this started and keep it to ourselves . It's nobody business what we do.
 
I don't know why people feel they have to tell anyone where they go and when they do it. My family and I have left the state 4 times since this started and keep it to ourselves . It's nobody business what we do.

It's a private daycare.
They have all kinds of health regulations.

Pre-COVID:
Necessary vaccines and immunizations.
Child has a fever - out of school until 24hrs of no fever
If kid sent home from school for a fever they have to be out at least the next day.

Private business sets its own rules.
 
Can I be the @$$hole and say over 65+ shouldn't be in the Stage 1 group? 😈

After essential/health care workers, it should be teachers and school children.

Offices can't fully open until kids are back in school and the threat of a 14 day quarantine isn't around the corner every day.

Once schools are fully open, then everything else will be able to open.

Note - I say this as a father of 2 toddlers currently in a 14 day quarantine from daycare because we traveled out of state over Xmas.

Okay all you old people, take your shots!
Giving shots to kids is a waste. I believe teachers are 1B.
 
Can I be the @$$hole and say over 65+ shouldn't be in the Stage 1 group? 😈

After essential/health care workers, it should be teachers and school children.

Offices can't fully open until kids are back in school and the threat of a 14 day quarantine isn't around the corner every day.

Once schools are fully open, then everything else will be able to open.

Note - I say this as a father of 2 toddlers currently in a 14 day quarantine from daycare because we traveled out of state over Xmas.

Okay all you old people, take your shots!
Problem is many teachers have outright refused to go into work through their unions . I have a hard time putting them at the front of line over people that are actually going into work . They have basically told the public that it is not “essential” for them to go into the schools .
 
Problem is many teachers have outright refused to go into work through their unions . I have a hard time putting them at the front of line over people that are actually going into work . They have basically told the public that it is not “essential” for them to go into the schools .
And now they will refuse the vaccine and still won’t work
 
Problem is many teachers have outright refused to go into work through their unions . I have a hard time putting them at the front of line over people that are actually going into work . They have basically told the public that it is not “essential” for them to go into the schools .


What schools are those?

I know several teachers and while some received permission to remote teach it was left up to the district to decide who. The districts controlled who was in school and who was remote and when
 
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This is what I found
#23 Florida
Doses distributed to state: 1,355,775
Doses administered: 402,802
Percentage of distributed vaccines that have been administered: 29.71

#26New Jersey
Doses distributed to state: 572,250
Doses administered: 155,458
Percentage of distributed vaccines that have been administered: 27.17

https://www.beckershospitalreview.c...entage-of-covid-19-vaccines-administered.html
I was talking percent of population just to make clear, not the other metrics.
 
What schools are those?

I know several teachers and while some received permission to remote teach it was left up to the district to decide who. The districts controlled who was in school and who was remote and when
Pretty much all the ones that are all remote now
 
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I was talking percent of population just to make clear, not the other metrics.
So who is NJ giving the vaccine to if they haven’t given it to 65+ and Florida has?
Florida has used a higher % of vaccine given to them vs NJ so it sounds like Florida may be getting shorted on the number of vaccines they are getting. Is the data correct?
 
The stupidity of some of you people. A life long Philly friend is in Jefferson Hospital tonight. Not expected to make it through the night. Yet we have idiots proudly saying they don't want the vaccine. Selfish pricks. Hope you don't kill anyone.
 
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