OT Wrestling commit... Read his quotes

[biazza38]

"I've got big goals to be a National champ. And I want to do it for New Jersey."....... Now if only we could get the high school football players to think the same thing. Great get for wrestling. We are going to be good.
http://highschoolsports.nj.com/news...tate-champ-kevin-mulligan-commits-to-rutgers/

 

[vascosg]

Nice...would be a double bonus to get his teammate Joe Grello as well.....

 

[MozRU]

Get a coach like wrestling and FB recruits will come.

Keep bozo and I will tell FB recruits to look outside NJ.

 

[ArminRU]

For some reason. Wrestlers in the state seem to have so much more state pride than football players. Don't know why.

 

[NickyNewark51]

For some reason. Wrestlers in the state seem to have so much more state pride than football players. Don't know why.

Wrestlers are a ''different'' breed and are usually independant thinkers unlike pampered FB players who have been coddled and BMOC since their Soph yrs... some just for being bigger or faster without having to make the sacrifices a wrestler must....small HS ''crowds or very little ones to swell their heads with visions of greatness. Most are natural leaders who have a better sense of pride than their FB counterparts....Some of our best FB players have had wrestling backgrounds...think Raheem Meekins..

 

[koleszar]

That Prittzloff hire was a great move by Goodale and looks to be starting to pay off. See what happens when you spend a little money. Good things happen. This team keeps getting AA's things could really take off. Too much talent in this area and now the B1G conference to showcase it. Might just start to earmark my donation for wrestling instead of football.

 

[RUFogey]

This kid is passionate about New Jersey and is from New York. Great wrestler and I'm really excited to watch him in the future. Hope we get Grello too.

 

[AreYouNUTS]

Get a HC who can close, by selling a vision, and they'll stay home. Not all of them, obviously, but a hell of a lot more of them than are doing so now.

 

[KJ_RU]

Get a HC who can close, by selling a vision, and they'll stay home. Not all of them, obviously, but a hell of a lot more of them than are doing so now.

I agree, a competent football coach would do wonders for football recruiting. Good job by Goodale and staff and congrats to Mulligan.

 

[Scarlet_Scourge]

Great things are happening in the wrestling program.

 

[newell138]

Being in the BIG is definitely a huge boost to wrestling and it just shows what we can do w/ the right coach. Womens soccer is doing the same. Playing an exciting, competitive schedule. NJ high schools have enough talent in every single sport for us to be competitive if we kept most of them home.

 

[Scarlet_Scourge]

And that is true is almost every sport.

Some more than others.

The biggest woukd be men's basketball. If we kept the best mbb from NJ every year we woukd be at least in the final four almost every single year.

 

[MachiKnight]

This is great stuff. Believe it or not a quality wrestling program helps football and basketball. If the wrestling program becomes revenue neutral or profitable it frees up more funds for the overall improvement of the Athletic department.

Julie is smart, she's focused on raising revenue every way that she can, not just from football and basketball.

 

[RUChoppin]

I wonder if part of the pride wrestlers show in their home states/colleges is partly due to less post-college opportunity in the sport? So many HS FB players have their eyes set on the NFL, and the NFL only - and it's just a matter of what school gets them there, or gets them highest in the draft. I'd imagine wrestlers have more focus on the college itself.

It's also a more individual sport - you can have individual success at the national level even if your team may not compete for a team championship.

 

[j10oreo]

Get a HC who can close, by selling a vision, and they'll stay home. Not all of them, obviously, but a hell of a lot more of them than are doing so now.

This. GS (regardless of what you may think of his coaching) recruited by pitching a vision. I use to read about it often when RU was on the rise. Under KF, the only thing I typically read about typically is that he's a nice guy. lol am I the only one?

 

[patk89]

Some of the huge crowds we attracted last season really showed the potential of RU wrestling to NJ recruits. We have the right coaches in place. Love it.

 

[Proud NJ Sports Fan]

For some reason. Wrestlers in the state seem to have so much more state pride than football players. Don't know why.

Are you hinting at the demographics?

 

[RU-ROCS]

Get a coach like wrestling and FB recruits will come.
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This! Goodale is comparable to an Urban Meyer-like coach in football.

 

[RUTBAY]

I wrestled in HS and much of what has been covered in this thread no doubt is very true. But lets face it, opportunities in wrestling vs football with respect to championships are much different. If I'm a wrestler, while a lot of my success depends on my teammates and coach, ultimately it is an individual endeavor. In football, if my teammates are mediocre or my coach is mediocre nothing I can do individually can overcome that fact. That is also why I ran track instead of playing baseball. Both of which I did very well growing up. No politics in track, you either cross the finish line first or you don't.

When it comes to championships it is a much easier sell for Goodale than it is for Flood or whoever may replace Flood.

 

[Ole Cabbagehead]

You guys are way out on a limb here, with the need to bash Flood at every turn, and you lack of knowledge about Coach Goodale. Urban Meyer! Coach Goodale was an underqualified high school coach when he was hired at RU. He was young, and an extremely hard worker. After his early recruiting successes failed to pan out as champions in college, a lot of people said he would never get it done here. People said he did not have the pedigree himself to attract top wrestlers, when we were competing with coaches who had been all americans and national champions.

In wrestling success depends on your own personal work ethic first, and who you are practicing with second. Without strong work out partners, it is difficult to be successful. This is why the top programs have coaches and assistants who were great wrestlers. It is not like football in that regard. The metric for success in football is very different.

Goodale's success has almost been a testament to overcoming every disadvantage through hard work. Getting Prtizlaff was a coup, and that is why you see great middle weight kids choosing Rutgers. That has now started to expand to the lower and higher weights, as kids see opportunity to be a starter on a solid Big Ten team. We still aren't there yet, but we are getting to where we have a balanced roster of kids who can compete at the Big Ten level.

If you wanted to compare to our football coaches, I think Goodale is like Kyle Flood with Greg Schiano's passion and drive. He is a guy who has used an incredible work ethic and vision to achieve improbable success.

 

[rutgersdave]

If you wanted to compare to our football coaches, I think Goodale is like Kyle Flood with Greg Schiano's passion and drive. He is a guy who has used an incredible work ethic and vision to achieve improbable success.

What do you mean by this? You mean he has Schiano passion and drive but why did you include Flood?

 

[OldManRiver]

Wrestlers can back up their hype with their lone performance.
If football...if you get a an all world WR...but have no QB to get him the ball...his skills can't help him win.
In wrestling...each player is on island at some point in the match...you don't have that in football.
Thus, the recruit HAS to be dependent on what else is on the football team...not just his position.

 

[PSU_Nut]

This! Goodale is comparable to an Urban Meyer-like coach in football.

Seriously? You would think an Urban Meyer-like wrestling coach would have more than 1 All American in 8 years and perhaps finish in the Top 30 once in 8 years. He is closer to Flood like than Meyer like.

 

[RUBand]

Get a HC who can close, by selling a vision, and they'll stay home. Not all of them, obviously, but a hell of a lot more of them than are doing so now.

My buddy was a prof at Iowa for many years. A neighbor of his was a football coach, told (my buddy) Hayden Fry told his staff it was their job to get recruits to take official visits, and his job to get them to commit.

 

[RU848789]

Get a HC who can close, by selling a vision, and they'll stay home. Not all of them, obviously, but a hell of a lot more of them than are doing so now.

I think we all might know somebody like this, who just happens to be available...

I wonder if part of the pride wrestlers show in their home states/colleges is partly due to less post-college opportunity in the sport? So many HS FB players have their eyes set on the NFL, and the NFL only - and it's just a matter of what school gets them there, or gets them highest in the draft. I'd imagine wrestlers have more focus on the college itself.

It's also a more individual sport - you can have individual success at the national level even if your team may not compete for a team championship.

Good points - I would think both factors are in play here.

 

[rufeelinit]

While the Meyer comparison was bad, the flood analogy is harsh as well.

 

[NickyNewark51]

If you wanted to compare to our football coaches, I think Goodale is like Kyle Flood with Greg Schiano's passion and drive. He is a guy who has used an incredible work ethic and vision to achieve improbable success.

What do you mean by this? You mean he has Schiano passion and drive but why did you include Flood?

He meant IMO a combination of two qualities hard work HCKF/GS and vision/passion GS to overcome a lack of previous experience as a HC..

 

[RUChoppin]

Seriously? You would think an Urban Meyer-like wrestling coach would have more than 1 All American in 8 years and perhaps finish in the Top 30 once in 8 years. He is closer to Flood like than Meyer like.

Not saying they're comparable, but playing devil's advocate.... at this point in Meyer's career, he had just been hired away from Utah. Goodale's got a lot of years ahead of him.

As for closer to Flood? Now you're just trolling - or high.

 

[NickyNewark51]

Not saying they're comparable, but playing devil's advocate.... at this point in Meyer's career, he had just been hired away from Utah. Goodale's got a lot of years ahead of him.

As for closer to Flood? Now you're just trolling - or high.

Nahh he's getting nervous...confident people would just blow'' it off. He should worry at the apparent trend..

 

[Ole Cabbagehead]

If you wanted to compare to our football coaches, I think Goodale is like Kyle Flood with Greg Schiano's passion and drive. He is a guy who has used an incredible work ethic and vision to achieve improbable success.

What do you mean by this? You mean he has Schiano passion and drive but why did you include Flood?

Read my post. Goodale was underqualified when he took the job, and when his initial recruits didn't achieve the expectations heaped on them, a great many said he would never get it done here. That has been silenced, somewhat, but I assure you it is still out there. Goodale was (and is) a huge underdog for success as an HC at the Big Ten level.

As far as coming into being a major conference head coach, Goodale has a lot more in common with Kyle Flood than he does Urban Meyer or Schiano. He has also had advantages Flood never had. Expectations for the wrestling program have never been (that) unrealistic. He has had a decade to get the program to where it is currently. He has benefitted greatly from the addition to the Big Ten, which is a much bigger deal for wrestling than it is for football. A starting spot on a Big Ten wrestling team is a HUGE sell, because of the individual nature of the sport.

Do not get me wrong.... I am a huge Goodale supporter, I know the man personally and my entire involvement with the school these days is through the wrestling program. I just want to point out the reality of the situation as I see it. I think I need to add that disclaimer, since given the tenor of this board lately, comparing someone to Flood is roughly equivalent to calling someone a communist during the McCarthy era.

 

[patk89]

Read my post. Goodale was underqualified when he took the job, and when his initial recruits didn't achieve the expectations heaped on them, a great many said he would never get it done here. That has been silenced, somewhat, but I assure you it is still out there. Goodale was (and is) a huge underdog for success as an HC at the Big Ten level.

As far as coming into being a major conference head coach, Goodale has a lot more in common with Kyle Flood than he does Urban Meyer or Schiano. He has also had advantages Flood never had. Expectations for the wrestling program have never been (that) unrealistic. He has had a decade to get the program to where it is currently. He has benefitted greatly from the addition to the Big Ten, which is a much bigger deal for wrestling than it is for football. A starting spot on a Big Ten wrestling team is a HUGE sell, because of the individual nature of the sport.

Do not get me wrong.... I am a huge Goodale supporter, I know the man personally and my entire involvement with the school these days is through the wrestling program. I just want to point out the reality of the situation as I see it. I think I need to add that disclaimer, since given the tenor of this board lately, comparing someone to Flood is roughly equivalent to calling someone a communist during the McCarthy era.

Cabbage, I think you make some good points. But I'm not sold that Goodale remains a huge underdog to succeed as HC at the B1G level (I guess we need to define that term). He has raised the profile of the program even before we joined the B1G with somewhat limited resources. There is huge appetite for quality collegiate wrestling in NJ. Will he win multiple B1G team championships? That is much tougher to achieve and if being consistently ranked in the top 7 or 8 national programs is the goal, maybe he is an underdog. But I see us being consistently in the top 15 and being competitive in our conference and with some great years.

 

[Ole Cabbagehead]

Cabbage, I think you make some good points. But I'm not sold that Goodale remains a huge underdog to succeed as HC at the B1G level (I guess we need to define that term). He has raised the profile of the program even before we joined the B1G with somewhat limited resources. There is huge appetite for quality collegiate wrestling in NJ. Will he win multiple B1G team championships? That is much tougher to achieve and if being consistently ranked in the top 7 or 8 national programs is the goal, maybe he is an underdog. But I see us being consistently in the top 15 and being competitive in our conference and with some great years.

No disagreement from me. Frankly, I think the sky is the limit.

As an aside, people should appreciate (or at least be aware) that regardless of what they think of him as the football coach, Coach Flood has gone out of his way to help the wrestling program however he can. He literally pulls out all the stops to help Scott however he can with recruiting...including more than just game hosting, but taking the time to personally talk to recruits, etc. Its a bigger asset than many here might think. The two coaches are very close.

 

[PSU_Nut]

Not saying they're comparable, but playing devil's advocate.... at this point in Meyer's career, he had just been hired away from Utah. Goodale's got a lot of years ahead of him.

As for closer to Flood? Now you're just trolling - or high.

Actually in Meyer first 8 years he had won 2 national championships. He had won a national title in his 6th season as a head coach. After 8 years of being a head coach Goodale hasn't even finished in the top 30 at nationals.

 

[RBNY87]

How many sports do we really get the top kids? Even watching the NCAA wrestling, most of the top kids are not here. Baseball? Lax? Track?

 

[RUChoppin]

Actually in Meyer first 8 years he had won 2 national championships. He had won a national title in his 6th season as a head coach. After 8 years of being a head coach Goodale hasn't even finished in the top 30 at nationals.

Meyer started his coaching career in 1985, at the age of 21.
16 years later, he got his first HC gig at BGSU.
At the age of 41, he was hired away from Utah by Florida, where he went on to superstardom.

Goodale started in 1995 at the age of 21.
12 years later, he got his first HC gig at RU.
At the age of 41, he's still at RU and has the team ranked in the Top 20 going into this season.

Comparison to Flood? Certainly living up to the "nut" in your user name.

 

[biazza38]

PSU_Nut.. Who cares. Just because we show some enthusiasm and appreciation for OUR wrestling coach, doesn't mean you have to be a pos about it. No one compared Goodale's resume to Urban Meyer's There were simple comparisons to to his personal characteristics. You're the one who twisted some one else's words and made the resume comparison.
You contribute some good stuff from time to time, but you're a lurker who bashes us at almost every opportunity you get.
If you can't allow us to be happy about our impressive wrestling coach and improving wrestling program, then I ask you kindly to run along... Because we don't care about your bs