out of conference schedule
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I would avoid playing Fairfield.... they have a new coach there whise really good knows us pretty well so getting a loss against a Q3 team would not be good. Pike doesn’t need this no win situation!
Pretty sure.
The question is should you play 5 to 6 tough OOC games, on top of 21 to potentially 22 B1G games. I can see dropping Maine, etc, but no one complains about a lot of the other B1G schools playing some of same teams in 90% of the situations.
In 95% of the cases, if you win the games you're supposed to, in conference, you will make the NCAAS. The NCST item of their OOC wasn't as relevant as losing to Georgia Tech twice. We can beef the schedule up all you want, but this isn't a roster that has 11 to 12 legitimate options that can sustain an injury or departure and have enough depth to rotate through 32 high level games.
There would be a mutiny of epic proportions if RU had the type of seasons that Illinois, Northwestern and Penn State had this past year. All played a "better" schedule by a little or a lot, but you cannot blow up your entire season in November and expect to dig out of it, during conference play.
I can see it both ways. PSU and Indiana were in the tourney convo really late despite abhorrent records because they did so well OOC. However, we still ended up on the mid-70s KenPom and if we picked off a few more (SHU or SJU, OOC; Illinois, NW, 1st Iowa in conference) we would have been in the tourney talk despite relatively weak OOC schedule.
Hell, SJU made the play in game with terrible OOC.
With 20 league games ...I think this is your model for 11 games
4 power confrence games that will be quad one or quad two games ...really want that split into 2 quad one game and 2 quad two games...and play two of them at home and two on the road
Of the Seven games left...this is where you want to be SMART....you need five of them at home and 2 on the road ...so you really want at least two of these to be quad 3 games and 5 of them to be quad four games ...and not have these games be the type that bite you later on.
That’s your schedule
17 home games
14 road games
2 quad 3 games
5 quad 4 games
24 games quad 1 or 2
Think that’s enough of a schedule
4 power confrence games that will be quad one or quad two games ...really want that split into 2 quad one game and 2 quad two games...and play two of them at home and two on the road
Of the Seven games left...this is where you want to be SMART....you need five of them at home and 2 on the road ...so you really want at least two of these to be quad 3 games and 5 of them to be quad four games ...and not have these games be the type that bite you later on.
That’s your schedule
17 home games
14 road games
2 quad 3 games
5 quad 4 games
24 games quad 1 or 2
Think that’s enough of a schedule
I counted 10 non conference games. Since the B1G has a 20-game conference schedule Rutgers can't just add 4 or more non conference games.
Oh and btw, if RU plays in an exempt tournament like the Advocare Invitational (just an example) that is three games away from RU and leaves you with only a max of eight home non conference games. If your B1G/ACC Challenge game is a road game that leaves you with seven home non conference games.
Yay 20-game conference schedule.
I really think 18 is the number of home games that Hobbs wants to see played.
Is it fake news that Hobbs is told by Barchi that he wants a balanced athletic budget? Does Hobbs just ignore?
EXPECT HOME FAKE TOURNAMENT for 3 free home games.
Look for Hobbs to schedule best opponents that doesn't require a return home game.
Is it fake news that Hobbs is told by Barchi that he wants a balanced athletic budget? Does Hobbs just ignore?
EXPECT HOME FAKE TOURNAMENT for 3 free home games.
Look for Hobbs to schedule best opponents that doesn't require a return home game.
NC State won 22 games and was ranked 32 in the NET. If they had scheduled stronger yes it would matter, they could have had 20 wins and made it if they lost to Michigan and Iowa State
its why Bama and Indiana were last 4 out despite 18-15 and 17-15 records...yes sos matters big time
conference only counts for so much, every school that makes it has at least one quality non conference win...and loss and some several
RU if they want to make the tournament should not be afraid
and RU will have to perform early in the season if they intend to make the tourney. Losses to dregs will torpedo chances
and gee Illinois beat Maryland and Michigan State. Penn State beat Michigan and Maryland and Virginia Tech. I think all RU fans would have signed up for that kind of season
if Hobbs is worried about money why is he paying CVS so much money for a program that gets less than 1K a game
How many football season ticket holders did we have when she got her extension?
You could be looking at a projected $10,000,000 of lost revenue from now to then directly and indirectly related to football.
DIRECT - Ticket revenue and Parking revenue and Concessions
INDIRECT - Donations
Also was that before the mandate from Barchi to balance the budget?
The bold is the key IMO.
The tournament thing is the only way I want to see us in an away uniform for an OOC game.
With the exception of Seton Hall, Princeton and St. John’s (only if the game is at MSG) every one of those should be RAC games.
I’d be okay for an AT Temple if it’s at the Palestra or the Verizon Center.
I think you are taking the season out of context and ignoring the actual flow of the season.
PSU played a much tougher schedule and got absolutely nothing accomplished by doing so. The coach who beat Virginia Tech in the OOC wound up 0 and 10 to start the B1G league. Chambers was on the chopping block rumor mill after losing to RU.
There's no recovering from a 7-6 OOC schedule that challenges your program, unless you feel you can go 14 and 6 in the B1G. Which nobody picked PSU to finish higher than 500 in the B1G.
There's a disconnect...you can challenge your program without burning your season to the ground before you get to the holidays.
There no fan I can see that can forecast RU finishing 11-9 or 12-8 in B1G play next year today. If you're not forecast to be at least
500, how can you ask to schedule teams like Illinois and PSU did, to wind up with 20+ losses??
My path towards sustainable success is not skipping steps or milestones. If you told me who my replacement was for Thiam and that same player is capable of starting over Eugene, I'd feel a lot more comfortable scheduling anyone.
At the same time, this program took huge steps forward in talent AND in the last 2 seasons had blood and guts injuries to Mike Williams who played at far less than 90% most of his senior season and Eugene, who at best was at 70% after his knee this year.
In both cases, RU doesn't have the athleticism or horsepower to play 28 out of 32 high caliber opponents and win 65% of them when the bulk of the roster are underclassmen.
I believe RU can accomplish BOTH without a break-neck schedule but I believe the B1G is a top flight league of talent and coaching from top to bottom. That doesn't mean I agree with scheduling Maine or FDU or Columbia, but Illinois playing Gonzaga and others in Maui, is absurd, when they're not capable of winning games there.
Let me get through December with some sustainable momentum, an important point guard addition being broken into the rotation off the bench and finding ways to see if my soon to be sophomores are all improved or not.
There are more question marks that will get solved in Spain that are far more valuable than a Top 20 OOC schedule.
As long as their home is at the Verizon Center, I’m cool. :sunglasses:
Anything against somebody below the Big East and I’d rather have it at the RAC or a neutral site.
Exactly.
Away games should be for the B1G, the every other against Seton Hall (and/or Princeton) or a pre-conference sked tournament.
Not sure I get your point here. Seems like you’re saying if we had a cheaper women’s coach, we could have invested in football, done much better and would not have lost season ticket holders? If so that seems like a pretty far stretch.
So you are basically saying RU isnt on the cusp of a NCAA appearance this year. I agree with you....but if Pike thinks they are and there is a good segment of posters here who do that 8 team neutral site tourney has to happen
Which I’m fine with. But other than that I can’t think of more than two OOC opponents who we should ever play at their place.
