I no am ok with Shelby having this take.
Yes Rutgers is nothing but fair when it is deserved lol
Panicking about a 1 TD conference road loss? Really?
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Yes Rutgers is nothing but fair when it is deserved lol
We’re not talking about Illinois’ QB. Your skirting the point. In a draft style game your choices are AK (assume healthy) and Locke. Who ya got?
The only way you could be taking Locke would be based on one half of a game against a Purdue D that is comparable to Akron’s D. He’s a 3rd string. Any success he has against us or others would be more about his big OL outplaying our DL (who stepped it up big time at the end of the Nebraska game and we have to hope that carries over). The point is - nobody would pick Locke straight up. And yet your giving us a very limited chance at home with the consensus better QB.
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tough to pick one over the other, but UW has more talent and speed in the receiving corps and better play calling mix. . I rate both running games similarly with the slight edge to RU with Mellusi out.
Overall, edge on offense to UW.
I disagree, on overall edge. I'd say slight edge to Rutgers looking at QB, Rushing and Receiving stats, to date. I think QB and Receivers are a wash. The difference is the run game. But it's close.
| Passing | |||||||||||
| NAME | Team | GP | COMP | ATT | COMP% | PASS YDS | TD | INT | YDS/ATT | PASS YDS/GM | RTG |
| Athan Kaliakmanis | Rutgers | 5 | 74 | 133 | 55.6 | 947 | 8 | 3 | 7.1 | 189.4 | 130.8 |
| Braedyn Locke | Wisconsin | 4 | 46 | 83 | 55.4 | 664 | 5 | 3 | 8 | 166 | 135.3 |
| Receiving | |||||||||||
| NAME | Team | GP | REC | REC YDS | TD | FUM | YDS/REC | YDS/GM | APYD | ||
| Dymere Miller | Rutgers | 5 | 17 | 262 | 1 | 0 | 15.4 | 52.4 | 262 | ||
| Will Pauling | Wisconsin | 5 | 21 | 202 | 1 | 0 | 9.6 | 40.4 | 202 | ||
| Ian Strong | Rutgers | 5 | 13 | 196 | 1 | 0 | 15.1 | 39.2 | 196 | ||
| Trech Kekahuna | Wisconsin | 5 | 10 | 176 | 2 | 1 | 17.6 | 35.2 | 318 | ||
| Rushing | |||||||||||
| NAME | Team | GP | ATT | RUSH YDS | TD | FUM | YDS/ATT | RUSH YDS/GM | APYD | ||
| Kyle Monangai | Rutgers | 5 | 116 | 667 | 6 | 0 | 5.8 | 133.4 | 693 | ||
| Tawee Walker | Wisconsin | 4 | 57 | 241 | 6 | 0 | 4.2 | 60.2 | 252 | ||
| Chez Mellusi | Wisconsin | 4 | 56 | 232 | 3 | 2 | 4.1 | 58 | 249 | ||
| Samuel Brown V | Rutgers | 4 | 36 | 184 | 3 | 0 | 5.1 | 46 | 218 |
are you taking into consideration that Wisconsin played Alabama and USC (in the Coliseum)? Hmmm, didn't think so.
At best it's close since Mellusi is out, but Wisconsin has better skill players and the edge there. And no doubt a better OL. I believe our D is better, but as I say often, offense wins.
We can certainly win, but as I say our offense is poor. I don't bet, but if I did I'd take the points.
"are you taking into consideration that Wisconsin played Alabama and USC (in the Coliseum)? Hmmm, didn't think so."
I'm going to assume you're implying that they played tougher defenses than RU... Not sure that's the case either.
| NAME | GP | OPP. PPG | OPP. TOTAL YDS/GM | OPP. PASS YDS/GM | OPP. RUSH YDS/GM | SKS | INT | TD | FF |
| Nebraska | 6 | 11.3 | 272.5 | 188.3 | 84.2 | 20 | 7 | 2 | 3 |
| USC | 5 | 18.4 | 316.2 | 157.6 | 158.6 | 6 | 3 | 1 | 5 |
| Washington | 6 | 13.2 | 256 | 125.5 | 130.5 | 13 | 4 | 0 | 3 |
| Alabama | 5 | 20 | 336.2 | 207.6 | 128.6 | 5 | 5 | 0 | 3 |
I am not trying to convince anyone that our O is '"All World", but I'd argue it isn't "poor" either.
Not thinking people are panicking because many people think 8 to 9 wins … just disappointed because there was hope for 10 to 11 based n the schedule … probably won’t get blown out in any game, but that feeling that this is one of the special seasons we hope for every few years is gone … 8-4 with not getting blown out is nice, but thought this could be a 10-2 team.
No reason for personal shots. It’s not an either or thing. I’d love Rutgers to be both good and have a memorable win..again i don’t think it’s a tough ask in year 5
10-11 LOL! That was never going to happen. Not nearly enough talent on offense to outscore that many teams.
His prediction going forward is just pretty much hoping Schiano fails.
And interesting as it is- USC had seemed like such a sure loss and Illinois such a sure win- They have almost swapped places. lol
But every game left on our schedule except for UCLA, could really go either way. What B1G teams have shown- outside of OSU, maybe Oregon, every other team can win a game they shouldn't win or lose a game they shouldn't lose.
Get me 7 wins and I am happy but a little let down because of our stat. Get me 8 wins and there is nothing bad to say. Anything over 8- Greg has a real shot at NCOY
Before this season started many on here felt a 7-8 win season was what to expect and seemed happy if RU won 7-8 at the end of the regular season.
Now with only one loss on the books: the season has turned into a disaster according to some posters here and are finding programs to praise as away to put Rutgers down
I'm happy being 4-1 and feel 8-4 will be the final tally
I guess we can start panicking now. The inevitable GS/Rutgers swoon has begun.
losing games you should win is not how you build a program
being unprepared and totally outclassed against peer/near peer is unconscionable
The staff has failed miserably the past two weeks, not even sure how that is debatable
the receivers get no separation, allow for ball drift, breaks are bad, use way too much body
OL and DL are documented issues already, no need to beat them up any more
play calling is horrid and very predictable
Depth is still an issue 5yrs in and that is NOT acceptable by any objective measure
we look really bad today, lost, unprepared and that is NOT acceptable
I tried telling you all last year from conversations I've had with families of RU targets that higher end and elite O players, especially QBs, don't want to come here due to Greg and his philosophy. We need to change the mindset and approach to offense. I like AK and we can win with him but we need to upgrade every single position on offense except RB imho. two weeks in a row Kirk shit the bed.
should we even discuss defense? for weeks we've seen zero pressure without any blitzes so I have to ask, wtf is Greg doing during the week?
and none of you should listen to OP, he's a moron that doesn't know anything so those that were concerned, were right to be concerned
being unprepared and totally outclassed against peer/near peer is unconscionable
The staff has failed miserably the past two weeks, not even sure how that is debatable
the receivers get no separation, allow for ball drift, breaks are bad, use way too much body
OL and DL are documented issues already, no need to beat them up any more
play calling is horrid and very predictable
Depth is still an issue 5yrs in and that is NOT acceptable by any objective measure
we look really bad today, lost, unprepared and that is NOT acceptable
I tried telling you all last year from conversations I've had with families of RU targets that higher end and elite O players, especially QBs, don't want to come here due to Greg and his philosophy. We need to change the mindset and approach to offense. I like AK and we can win with him but we need to upgrade every single position on offense except RB imho. two weeks in a row Kirk shit the bed.
should we even discuss defense? for weeks we've seen zero pressure without any blitzes so I have to ask, wtf is Greg doing during the week?
and none of you should listen to OP, he's a moron that doesn't know anything so those that were concerned, were right to be concerned
total capitulation now with Sheppard instead of letting him get some time throwing the ball and running an offense
then you guys wonder why our depth sucks
then you guys wonder why our depth sucks
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Totally humiliated at home . Really???????? You relax.
Did you not see when OP was lol
I don't mind the bump but you unleashed all the trolls that were banished through September lol
In any case, we're probably still winning 7 games as most predicted. One game doesn't a season make. RU fans never learned this despite WTF games. See also, Miami versus Maryland last year.
anything less than 8 games this year, regular season, is a failure with this schedule. we should be 5-1 (thought Washington was a loss)
we are now 1 game behind my track but it's the fashion of loss the last two weeks and the in game decisions that troubling
UCLA and Maryland should be wins. I don't think we're beating USC. The others, I would say 60/40 we beat Minnesota, 50/50 @ MSU and 40/60 Illinois. If the injury situation improves I'd move them all more favorable.
We always lined up poorly with Nebraska, I actually worried about that game more than USC. But it seems now USC is back to old school USC if it doesn't travel east. We have won at MSU and beaten Illinois at home before. Minnesota IIRC we only played twice.
We def crapped the bed today but generally have one performance like that every season. People flipped out after UMD and then we played much better against a now top 10 Miami team. Drawing these kind of conclusions from one game and throwing out the good results from earlier is wild.
Outside of UCLA, all of those teams are currently playing better than us. Even Maryland.
Please don't compare last years Miami team with half of the players skipping the bowl game, to this season with a Heisman candidate QB.
Which are the wins MD has that are UW or VT caliber?
One game does not a season make...that is why the term WTF loss was coined lol
We get to 7-5 and a Bowl, I'm happy. Yesterday at the game, the setting and atmosphere pre-game was everything you'd want as a fan of big time college football. The game, clearly not so much. I'm still shocked at what we sat through, but just like the Mets, things can change for the better quickly. As another Mets fan said, there are Die Hard Fans and there are Die Easy Fans. Every fan base, has them! Some have way more than others though. They tend to be those fan bases that expect to win every year after years of success. With that said I'll just continue to say, "Go RU and LGM!
QB's? Those stats were each teams P5 opponents' D production, up to that point. So, not sure what you're talking about. RU got shellacked on Sat., no two ways about it. Let's see if the entire program can step it up and right the ship.
The long time, shell-shocked RU fan that's been watching them since the days of early 90's blow outs to Miami, VT and Boston College Big East isn't so sure.
your view was that the roughly equal offensive stats suggested comparable offensive competence, dismissing my point that the stats were skewed due to the opponents.
Now at least you recognize our offense is still hot garbage (for years) and Wisconsin's is still pretty good. BTW, it's not about injuries. It's about talent.
CFB is different because pro teams have players under contract and don't recruit. College players and recruits can easily jump off a sinking ship.
This and the fact we returned the most starters in the B1G. There is still time to fix this. Depends on the Staff and Team. Get it done now as next year we will not have these higher aspirations.
We also actively changed QBs.
It’s not like our QB left and we had to replace him.
HC Schiano and OC KC actively brought in AK and then named him starter.
So not a “returning starter” but it was our own doing.
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