Politi: "Greg Schiano deserves a contract extension as Rutgers clears a major hurdle"

[rutgersal]

Agreed. This seasond accomplishments have been met regardless.

But it's still just 1 year.
Need to repeat next year and accomplishment the season goals.

We are in good position to repeat, especially with the incoming class. Recruiting is strong, ticket sales are strong. And season tickets should increase significantly next year, as will our media payout from USC, Oregon, UCLA, and Washington joining. The program is on a stable trajectory.

This is why he will get his extension in the offseason. It’s the right thing to do.

 

[NickRU714]

We are in good position to repeat, especially with the incoming class. Recruiting is strong, ticket sales are strong. And season tickets should increase significantly next year, as will our media payout from USC, Oregon, UCLA, and Washington joining. The program is on a stable trajectory.

This is why he will get his extension in the offseason. It’s the right thing to do.

Sure. All that may be true.
Then no harm in waiting for it actually happen on the field.

 

[GoodOl'Rutgers]

You recalled incorrectly. BTW, everyone wants him fired when he has a bad year.

You do realize your response only makes sense if you do NOT consider yourself part of "everyone".

How that works is, I said YOU wanted him gone in down years.. you say I was wrong.. but that everyone wants him gone in bad years.

What?

 

[RUTGERS95]

You mentioned Saban first for no reason at all.

Why are kids currently coming here if HC Schiano is the lowest paid HC in the Big Ten?
If we made him the highest paid coach in the entire country tomorrow - does recruiting suddenly become Top 10?

you can't reason with the cult, they are devoid of logic. Greg needs 3yrs of solid growth with a clear trajectory to even consider extending him

Hell, based off of how terrible he did last year, we should have cut his comp!

 

[RUBOB72]

We are in good position to repeat, especially with the incoming class. Recruiting is strong, ticket sales are strong. And season tickets should increase significantly next year, as will our media payout from USC, Oregon, UCLA, and Washington joining. The program is on a stable trajectory.

This is why he will get his extension in the offseason. It’s the right thing to do.

I think people have forgotten the incoming 2024 class is very strong with several potential contributors. It possibly could be restructured adding some things that equate to continued success. Not only $$$$ / years but attempting to keep some key assistants. STABILITY. BTW : One player I’m still confused about is the DE player from Brooklyn who Richie keeps showing as 100% Rutgers?

 

[BROTHERSKINNY]

The football program will be in the same place whether we pay him more or not. He will not go anywhere. I don't care about "the game." We have bigger fish to fry like paying for the fieldhouse and building a NIL war chest. Heck, Greg might even agree with that.

I'm not quite sure I understand what you are saying. Paying a head coach more after one good season doesn't buy winning. Many examples were given.

Then he should have had escalation clauses in his contract to cover contingencies. That's on him and his agent.
As I noted in replies above, we have other important spend issues for the program. Having interacted with Greg at donor events, he has emphasized these needs. I doubt he would do it, but never once did he bring up more money for himself. What's wrong with waiting another year to see how 2024 unfolds?

Knight Shift, If we do not reup his contract and another school comes along and says we will pay you 8 mil to turn around our program, you do not think HCGS would entertain that? He wants to be paid what he is worth and if we don't pay him we risk losing the ONLY person who has been able to successfully run the program at the highest levels of competition in the history of Rutgers. He deserves a contract extension for getting them where they are and to lock him in for another five years. We need stability and a coach who can coach in the BIG, Schiano is it unless you want Ash back.

 

[jtung230]

The outcome of the next four games don’t matter, because he’s already done what he needed to do. End of Story.

Disagree. Think GS would also disagree.

 

[NickRU714]

Knight Shift, If we do not reup his contract and another school comes along and says we will pay you 8 mil to turn around our program, you do not think HCGS would entertain that? He wants to be paid what he is worth and if we don't pay him we risk losing the ONLY person who has been able to successfully run the program at the highest levels of competition in the history of Rutgers. He deserves a contract extension for getting them where they are and to lock him in for another five years. We need stability and a coach who can coach in the BIG, Schiano is it unless you want Ash back.

1. We have a HC signed for 4 years. Is that not enough stability? If it's not, then are you not saying HC Schiano could have gone 1-11 and needed an extension for "stability".
So take "stability" off the board.

2. If another school came and offered HC Schiano $8m, would he not give Rutgers a chance to match or exceed?

If not, then no extension amount is safe unless you propose we increase his salary to top in the Big Ten or even the country.
We could bump him to $8m next year. But then someone comes in and offers $9m and he's out the door immediately.

What level of compensation is good enough to safeguard him leaving in the middle of the night?

 

[jtung230]

You mentioned Saban first for no reason at all.

Why are kids currently coming here if HC Schiano is the lowest paid HC in the Big Ten?
If we made him the highest paid coach in the entire country tomorrow - does recruiting suddenly become Top 10?

You said highest paid so I brought up Saban.

 

[Morrischiano]

Knight Shift, If we do not reup his contract and another school comes along and says we will pay you 8 mil to turn around our program, you do not think HCGS would entertain that? He wants to be paid what he is worth and if we don't pay him we risk losing the ONLY person who has been able to successfully run the program at the highest levels of competition in the history of Rutgers. He deserves a contract extension for getting them where they are and to lock him in for another five years. We need stability and a coach who can coach in the BIG, Schiano is it unless you want Ash back.

Let's see if he can stabilize the program via back-to-back 6 or more wins. That would be a reasonable justification for an extension.

Moreover, what school would offer GS 8 M to execute a 4 year rebuild plan? Like actually who?

The Top 25 Highest-Paid College Football Coaches in 2024

Who is the highest-paid college football coach? Georgia's Kirby Smart leads the way, earning $13 million per year. Here's the full list.

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[BROTHERSKINNY]

1. We have a HC signed for 4 years. Is that not enough stability? If it's not, then you are not saying HC Schiano could have gone 1-11 and needed an extension for "stability".
So take "stability" off the board.

2. If another school came and offered HC Schiano $8m, would he not give Rutgers a chance to match or exceed?

If not, then no extension amount is safe unless you propose we increase his salary to top in the Big Ten or even the country.
We could bump him to $8m next year. But then someone comes in and offers $9m and he's out the door immediately.

What level of compensation is good enough to safeguard him leaving in the middle of the night?

$8 mill was a throw out number. right now he is the lowest paid coach in the BIG with several years under his belt. I am just worried that Coach will be offered by another program and we will end up with a new Chris Ash. I am tired of that. Lets Reup at the end of the season and keep coach happy and on the banks for good.

 

[rutgersal]

Disagree. Think GS would also disagree.

they don’t matter with regards to his extension. Of course every game matters to GS.

 

[rutgersdave]

We jumped

Knight Shift, If we do not reup his contract and another school comes along and says we will pay you 8 mil to turn around our program, you do not think HCGS would entertain that? He wants to be paid what he is worth and if we don't pay him we risk losing the ONLY person who has been able to successfully run the program at the highest levels of competition in the history of Rutgers. He deserves a contract extension for getting them where they are and to lock him in for another five years. We need stability and a coach who can coach in the BIG, Schiano is it unless you want Ash back.

What team? There are no teams from the Big Ten or SEC that think he‘s that good. Only Rutgers fans think he’s that good. He only has 6 wins so far and can go 6-6. That doesn’t make a great story. When we were searching for a HC, we looked at his recent history(3-5 years) and Schiano second term isn’t so great maybe if he wins 2-3 more this season or maybe has a 8 win season next year.

You guys sound like you never managed anyone.

 

[ashokan]

He could get paid nothing or $10M dollars. That is not the issue, but rather the contract term showing the school is committed to him as a coach for the time the player will be there. A parent involved in a player's decision making will also look for that too. NIL does change the equation but maybe not as much as we think.

I think some of the other coaches are good (like OL) and need to be kept. If they get a bump and the HC doesn't it looks wonky. Tide will have to raise most boats at some point imo.

Unfortunately when teams show some upward success the coaches get picked-off. Saban hardly had same coaches every year

 

[RUBOB72]

Let's see if he can stabilize the program via back-to-back 6 or more wins. That would be a reasonable justification for an extension.

Moreover, what school would offer GS 8 M to execute a 4 year rebuild plan? Like actually who?

The Top 25 Highest-Paid College Football Coaches in 2024

Who is the highest-paid college football coach? Georgia's Kirby Smart leads the way, earning $13 million per year. Here's the full list.

frontofficesports.com

And if that happened you would say it’s not enough…😊👏👏👏 What high school did you say you were OC? And won a State Title?

 

[BROTHERSKINNY]

We jumped

What team? There are no teams from the Big Ten or SEC that think he‘s that good. Only Rutgers fans think he’s that good. He only has 6 wins so far and can go 6-6. That doesn’t make a great story. When we were searching for a HC, we looked at his recent history(3-5 years) and Schiano second term isn’t so great maybe if he wins 2-3 more this season or maybe has a 8 win season next year.

You guys sound like you never managed anyone.

Jesus! this is the most assinine post I think I have ever read on TKR! If it was just one thing that HCGS was doing well I would be in agreement with you. The facts of the matter are he is executing in every area well, wins, recruiting, academic achievement, scandal free program, getting facilities built and renovated, and more. We have tried other coaches and failed. Its now time to lock in Greg for the next five to six years.

 

[rutgersdave]

Jesus! this is the most assinine post I think I have ever read on TKR! If it was just one thing that HCGS was doing well I would be in agreement with you. The facts of the matter are he is executing in every area well, wins, recruiting, academic achievement, scandal free program, getting facilities built and renovated, and more. We have tried other coaches and failed. Its now time to lock in Greg for the next five to six years.

You're stupid. We already have him locked for 4 years so you want to add 1 more year.

We can discuss any raise when he present another offer from another team.

 

[BROTHERSKINNY]

You're stupid. We already have him locked for 4 years so you want to add 1 more year.

We can discuss any raise when he present another offer from another team.

Its about respect for what he has achieved which anyone on this board knows the pain we were feeling the last year of the Ash heap. Rutgers needs to make the commitment now, not later.

 

[rucoe89]

I think some of the other coaches are good (like OL) and need to be kept. If they get a bump and the HC doesn't it looks wonky. Tide will have to raise most boats at some point imo.

Unfortunately when teams show some upward success the coaches get picked-off. Saban hardly had same coaches every year

Agreed. Harisymiak will be looked at for HC somewhere. Whether he goes may be another question.

 

[MADHAT1]

duh, hire a big name coach like Saban and you don’t think recruits will flock here. Logic works fine.

on the other hand , offer $4 mil a year and big name coaches like Saban, Smart & Riley would love to come
Right now 6-2 shows Greg was the right hire for the money

 

[Morrischiano]

And if that happened you would say it’s not enough…😊👏👏👏 What high school did you say you were OC? And won a State Title?

Get a life.

 

[RUBOB72]

Get a life.

You first shot your mouth off about how much you knew, played, coached etc. Then ridicule others… nobody gives two shats when nor where you were the high school OC. Whether you played for Rutgers…And trust me kid …I’ve had a great life from childhood all the way to mid 70’s . Still do…

 

[Morrischiano]

You first shot your mouth off about how much you knew, played, coached etc. Then ridicule others… nobody gives two shats when nor where you were the high school OC. Whether you played for Rutgers…And trust me kid …I’ve had a great life from childhood all the way to mid 70’s . Still do…

Ok

You first shot your mouth off about how much you knew, played, coached etc. Then ridicule others… nobody gives two shats when nor where you were the high school OC. Whether you played for Rutgers…And trust me kid …I’ve had a great life from childhood all the way to mid 70’s . Still do…

You seem to care and you seem to follow me from thread to thread, and bring in personal arguments from another thread into this one.

I’m glad that you have a great life. Now, relax.

 

[RUTGERS95]

Its about respect for what he has achieved which anyone on this board knows the pain we were feeling the last year of the Ash heap. Rutgers needs to make the commitment now, not later.

respect for what he's achieved???? it's his fking job! what the heck are you smoking

ok, he owes us money based on how poorly he did last year right??????????

 

[MADHAT1]

respect for what he's achieved???? it's his fking job! what the heck are you smoking

ok, he owes us money based on how poorly he did last year right??????????

Schiano seems to be doing yje job he was hired to do, end the losing and start winning.
Year 2 was a 5-7 year with a bowl game to boot. Might have just earned his pay
Last year's 4-8 was a disappointment, a step back it might seem.
But happy days are here again with the second bowl game in 4 years coming up in the
G2 era.
SSchiano haters can complain all they want, but not this year anymore> Thank You

 

[Morrischiano]

Agreed. Harisymiak will be looked at for HC somewhere. Whether he goes may be another question.

Our DC has been outstanding! That dude deserves an extension.

 

[NickRU714]

You said highest paid so I brought up Saban.

And completely missed the point.

If HC compensation is so important to recruits, just make HC Schiano the highest paid coach in CFB and we'll have the #1 recruiting class.

Should have just made HC Ash the highest paid? You know. To show recruits our commitment?

 

[RUTGERS95]

And completely missed the point.

If HC compensation is so important to recruits, just make HC Schiano the highest paid coach in CFB and we'll have the #1 recruiting class.

Should have just made HC Ash the highest paid? You know. To show recruits our commitment?

double yup

I'm amazed at the critical thinking abilities of people here. The mental gymnastics that people exercise to justify a position for Greg is astounding

 

[jtung230]

And completely missed the point.

If HC compensation is so important to recruits, just make HC Schiano the highest paid coach in CFB and we'll have the #1 recruiting class.

Should have just made HC Ash the highest paid? You know. To show recruits our commitment?

No idea what you are talking about at this point. Who said anything about making GS the highest paid coach. The point is if you don’t pay him his FMV, he is at risk of leaving. Players know this.

 

[RUTGERS95]

No idea what you are talking about at this point. Who said anything about making GS the highest paid coach. The point is if you don’t pay him his FMV, he is at risk of leaving. Players know this.

he's not leaving, no one wants him

only RU fans hold him in high enough esteem to suggest he's going to get poached. He's not succeeded anywhere outside of RU and RU success could be argued it was as much a factor of externalities as much as internals due to greg.

 

[ru-baby]

Lol at the who would hire GS crowd.

Some of us were around the first time when another crowd said the same thing until miami and michigan came calling.

Do you realize how many rebuild jobs there are each year- the bias has to be great as no informed person could think no one would offer gs.

But the coaching need to always have 4 years on your contract is absurd. Need some smarter ADs to change the paradigm.

 

[rutgersal]

Lol at the who would hire GS crowd.

Some of us were around the first time when another crowd said the same thing until miami and michigan came calling.

Do you realize how many rebuild jobs there are each year- the bias has to be great as no informed person could think no one would offer gs.

But the coaching need to always have 4 years on your contract is absurd. Need some smarter ADs to change the paradigm.

When a coach has fewer than 4 years on his deal, it becomes more difficult to recruit, because rival recruiters will tell kids that the coach will likely not be there for the entirety of their college career. It is difficult enough to recruit to Rutgers. We need to make it easier, which is why Schiano will get his extension.

 

[PSAL_Hoops]

Lol at the who would hire GS crowd.

Some of us were around the first time when another crowd said the same thing until miami and michigan came calling.

Do you realize how many rebuild jobs there are each year- the bias has to be great as no informed person could think no one would offer gs.

But the coaching need to always have 4 years on your contract is absurd. Need some smarter ADs to change the paradigm.

Yes - it’s truly unbelievable. I thought our performance and the side by side visual of the post 2019 resumes of “the rest of the field” relative to Schiano would put this to bed. I guess not.

I’m not saying GS needs a contract extension right now. In fact, I think the timing is terrible with a series of potential losses against top teams looming. But this nonsense that Greg has just done his job and nobody would be impressed by what he’s stepped in and done for our 2019 train wreck is mind boggling.

Calling on some help from both ends of the Schiano spectrum. Please send me your flavors of 2023 to add to the stock tracker menu. I will expand it to provide a comprehensive look at where Greg sits relative to not only the pool of 2019 candidates but also the field of realistic candidates who could replace him right now if he left Rutgers. I will include Sanders even though I think he’s be a horrible (and probably not realistic) choice for RU.

 

[PSU_Nut]

I hate how the media jumps so quickly at things like this. Yes getting bowl eligible is a great accomplishment but let the season play out. It is not inconceivable that Rutgers loses out and finishes 6-7 as Rutgers is likely an underdog in the remaining games. Do you really need to jump and reward a guy for a losing season? He has 4 years left and he not going anywhere. I feel even if he has a breakout he not going to leave so there is no rush to lock him up. If he is 8-4 then yes I think it would be warranted but other than that anything 1 year extension.

 

[bethlehemfan]

When a coach has fewer than 4 years on his deal, it becomes more difficult to recruit, because rival recruiters will tell kids that the coach will likely not be there for the entirety of their college career. It is difficult enough to recruit to Rutgers. We need to make it easier, which is why Schiano will get his extension.

It will happen. It’s a no-brainer

 

[Roy_Faulker]

Looks like Politi did it again.

Stirring the pot to gin up negative emotion during a moment of joy lol.

No better way to get the negative editorials and letters to the editor going than to talk about paying the football coach $6 million a year when faculty go on strike.

And he got the boards going to boot haha.

Well done Steve.

 

[BROTHERSKINNY]

he's not leaving, no one wants him

only RU fans hold him in high enough esteem to suggest he's going to get poached. He's not succeeded anywhere outside of RU and RU success could be argued it was as much a factor of externalities as much as internals due to greg.

Dude, you’re shot!

 

[RUTGERS95]

Lol at the who would hire GS crowd.

Some of us were around the first time when another crowd said the same thing until miami and michigan came calling.

Do you realize how many rebuild jobs there are each year- the bias has to be great as no informed person could think no one would offer gs.

But the coaching need to always have 4 years on your contract is absurd. Need some smarter ADs to change the paradigm.

lol at the miami and michigan nonsense. never had an offer, was driven by a media source in miami

 

[RUTGERS95]

Dude, you’re shot!

is that English or suburban ebonics?

 

[BROTHERSKINNY]

is that English or suburban ebonics?

Dude, you are absolutely f ing shot! LOL!