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Originally posted by bac2therac:

Tennessee but he will flip to another school not named Rutgers before signing day
Quarterbacks don't flip as often as other positions. Most QBs lock down early. Once he makes his decision, whoever loses out (I'm assuming UT or RU) is going to go to their next choice and move on. Very unlikely he flips after making his decision, no matter which school he commits to.
 
The reasons that I heard that was being held against RU was:
1-Loss of Fridge; the elder JG really believed in him
2-Level of talent that would surround JG at RU when compared to Tenn or OSU
3-It wasn't SEC v Big Ten. it was SEC v Rutgers. Even for legacy players, RU is still seen as the little engine that couldn't
 
Musteng posted on 4/12/2015...
Originally posted by bac2therac:

Tennessee but he will flip to another school not named Rutgers before signing day
Quarterbacks
don't flip as often as other positions. Most QBs lock down early.
Once he makes his decision, whoever loses out (I'm assuming UT or RU) is
going to go to their next choice and move on. Very unlikely he flips
after making his decision, no matter which school he commits to.
______________________________________________________________________________________

Wambash flipped last year. Alabama, Oregon and ND also all lost top QB's last year.
 
Originally posted by runuts:

These verbal's do not mean shit until that piece of paper is signed and faxed in, a kid can change his mind several times. This is just so out of hand
This statement is not true. At all.

The reason a commitment matters, especially from a recruit of JG's caliber, is that it other recruits will follow. If JG commits to RU Wednesday, you will see other big recruits fall in line behind him. If he commits wednesday it heightens the chances of an Ahmir Mitchell following. Can they decommit down the road? Of course. But if they build a legitimate class of 4 stars there will be no reason to.
 
Originally posted by ru109:
Musteng posted on 4/12/2015...

Originally posted by bac2therac:

Tennessee but he will flip to another school not named Rutgers before signing day
Quarterbacks
don't flip as often as other positions. Most QBs lock down early.
Once he makes his decision, whoever loses out (I'm assuming UT or RU) is
going to go to their next choice and move on. Very unlikely he flips
after making his decision, no matter which school he commits to.
______________________________________________________________________________________

Wambash flipped last year. Alabama, Oregon and ND also all lost top QB's last year.
I'll give you Wimbush, but Town decommitted from Bama because Nussmeier left and Barnett decommitted from ND to take Town's spot at Bama. Not sure about the Oregon QB you're referencing. Not saying it never happens, but a QB waiting this long to commit is very unlikely to decommit. I would gladly wager that Guarantano sticks, no matter who he chooses,
 
Originally posted by Musteng:
Originally posted by wheezer:

Originally posted by lordsoflolo:
From some ridiculous poster on a ridiculous Tenn message board:

engineerVOL (3,232)
12:53 PM 04-09-2015 (#P)
New Jersey. It's ours.
Quote

Are we going to stand by and let TENNESSEE boast like that!!!!! Are our in state players going to let TENNESSEE make that type of statement????? Stand up and be heard! RU JERSEY PRIDE!!!! (Just don't tell anyone I moved away years ago!)
their insiders are 100% confident he will be a Vol.....there is no doubt in their minds......some of it might be that they believe he has already informed the Vol staff he is coming.....and some of it
is the supreme confidence that no one can out recruit Butch .......they are not even worried about
Urban, and Flood is never going to be in the same solar system as Butch

I tell you, if it somehow winds up being RU, I cannot wait to see the reaction over there......

but in the end, I predict Tenn,

because I think he decided even before he visited there, and his most recent visit there locked it....the telling factor is the decommit of the other qb and then the quick JG visit.....I think JG expressed interest and said he would come, and then Butch quickly got rid of their other 2016
verbal....
You are pretty spot on from everything I've read on the Tennessee boards. Our mods are generally not "homers" and they won't come out and say "It's Tennessee", but the indication they're giving is that OSU mods don't feel confident in him landing there, and it comes down to UT and Rutgers. They feel the fact that he has been staying in touch with Coach DeBord this week is a "good sign". Certainly not 100%, but we'll see. As for the Kendall/Guarantano situation, there's a little more to that. Our previous OC Mike Bajakian (ironically a BC Alum) preferred Kendall over Guarantano and while they still recruited JG to some extent, Kendall wanted to be the only QB UT brought in this year and that was agreed upon. Kendall's brother is a walk on receiver at Kentucky and he visited there a few times and was talking about visiting Auburn and a couple of other schools, while not wanting UT to bring in another QB. Bajakian leaves for an NFL job and UT brings in DeBord as OC, and he prefers JG over Kendall. UT and Kendall come to a mutual parting of the ways and JG immediately schedules a visit to UT. That and Butch's long standing relationship with the family leaves a lot of us believing it's going to be UT, not to mention the fact that he is a perfect fit for our offense. My guess is that if he were going to commit to RU, he would've done it earlier, as QB's tend to commit earlier than other positions because there are only so many positions available and if you want to be an anchor for the class, you can't be committing too late in the year. I'm sure it's happened, but I can't remember the last time I saw a big time QB commit in January or February. Good luck to you guys either way.
Hey Musteng, thanks for giving your analysis. What's the feeling on DeBord as OC? He had a pretty bad record as HC at Central Michigan, and prior to that he was OC at Michigan during some good times.
 
Originally posted by RCTrooper:
The reasons that I heard that was being held against RU was:
1-Loss of Fridge; the elder JG really believed in him
2-Level of talent that would surround JG at RU when compared to Tenn or OSU
3-It wasn't SEC v Big Ten. it was SEC v Rutgers. Even for legacy players, RU is still seen as the little engine that couldn't
I hate reason one.......I would have thought that RU could have retained Fridge in some capacity, enough to assure
JG that Fridge would have input and guidance for him at RU....

we should have been able to do something along those lines, if needed.
 
Originally posted by wheezer:

Originally posted by RCTrooper:
The reasons that I heard that was being held against RU was:
1-Loss of Fridge; the elder JG really believed in him
2-Level of talent that would surround JG at RU when compared to Tenn or OSU
3-It wasn't SEC v Big Ten. it was SEC v Rutgers. Even for legacy players, RU is still seen as the little engine that couldn't
I hate reason one.......I would have thought that RU could have retained Fridge in some capacity, enough to assure
JG that Fridge would have input and guidance for him at RU....

we should have been able to do something along those lines, if needed.
We did
 
Originally posted by Musteng

You are pretty spot on from everything I've read on the Tennessee boards. Our mods are generally not "homers" and they won't come out and say "It's Tennessee", but the indication they're giving is that OSU mods don't feel confident in him landing there, and it comes down to UT and Rutgers. They feel the fact that he has been staying in touch with Coach DeBord this week is a "good sign". Certainly not 100%, but we'll see. As for the Kendall/Guarantano situation, there's a little more to that. Our previous OC Mike Bajakian (ironically a BC Alum) preferred Kendall over Guarantano and while they still recruited JG to some extent, Kendall wanted to be the only QB UT brought in this year and that was agreed upon. Kendall's brother is a walk on receiver at Kentucky and he visited there a few times and was talking about visiting Auburn and a couple of other schools, while not wanting UT to bring in another QB. Bajakian leaves for an NFL job and UT brings in DeBord as OC, and he prefers JG over Kendall. UT and Kendall come to a mutual parting of the ways and JG immediately schedules a visit to UT. That and Butch's long standing relationship with the family leaves a lot of us believing it's going to be UT, not to mention the fact that he is a perfect fit for our offense. My guess is that if he were going to commit to RU, he would've done it earlier, as QB's tend to commit earlier than other positions because there are only so many positions available and if you want to be an anchor for the class, you can't be committing too late in the year. I'm sure it's happened, but I can't remember the last time I saw a big time QB commit in January or February. Good luck to you guys either way.
You could use the same line of reasoning for why he didn't commit at OSU or Tenn yet also.
 
Originally posted by hiwater:

Originally posted by wheezer:


Originally posted by RCTrooper:
The reasons that I heard that was being held against RU was:
1-Loss of Fridge; the elder JG really believed in him
2-Level of talent that would surround JG at RU when compared to Tenn or OSU
3-It wasn't SEC v Big Ten. it was SEC v Rutgers. Even for legacy players, RU is still seen as the little engine that couldn't
I hate reason one.......I would have thought that RU could have retained Fridge in some capacity, enough to assure
JG that Fridge would have input and guidance for him at RU....

we should have been able to do something along those lines, if needed.
We did
ok then.....and now the latest from a Vol source:

one inside the Tenn program and the other who is well connected to New Jersey, that after Jarrett Gurantano commits to the vols on April 15 that Kareem Walker will decommit from OSU shortly after and will be a vol by August. Just remember you heard it here first. Butch gets who Butch wants.
 
Hope he comes to OSU if not then I hope he goes to RU. Don't want talented players to leave the conference.
 
How can you turn down the opportunity to be the likely quarterback at Rutgers for the 150th anniversary of college football? You will be the center of attention - just my word to the recruits.

-Scarlet Jerry
 
Originally posted by Knight Shift:

Originally posted by Musteng:

Originally posted by wheezer:


Originally posted by lordsoflolo:
From some ridiculous poster on a ridiculous Tenn message board:

engineerVOL (3,232)
12:53 PM 04-09-2015 (#P)
New Jersey. It's ours.
Quote

Are we going to stand by and let TENNESSEE boast like that!!!!! Are our in state players going to let TENNESSEE make that type of statement????? Stand up and be heard! RU JERSEY PRIDE!!!! (Just don't tell anyone I moved away years ago!)
their insiders are 100% confident he will be a Vol.....there is no doubt in their minds......some of it might be that they believe he has already informed the Vol staff he is coming.....and some of it
is the supreme confidence that no one can out recruit Butch .......they are not even worried about
Urban, and Flood is never going to be in the same solar system as Butch

I tell you, if it somehow winds up being RU, I cannot wait to see the reaction over there......

but in the end, I predict Tenn,

because I think he decided even before he visited there, and his most recent visit there locked it....the telling factor is the decommit of the other qb and then the quick JG visit.....I think JG expressed interest and said he would come, and then Butch quickly got rid of their other 2016
verbal....
You are pretty spot on from everything I've read on the Tennessee boards. Our mods are generally not "homers" and they won't come out and say "It's Tennessee", but the indication they're giving is that OSU mods don't feel confident in him landing there, and it comes down to UT and Rutgers. They feel the fact that he has been staying in touch with Coach DeBord this week is a "good sign". Certainly not 100%, but we'll see. As for the Kendall/Guarantano situation, there's a little more to that. Our previous OC Mike Bajakian (ironically a BC Alum) preferred Kendall over Guarantano and while they still recruited JG to some extent, Kendall wanted to be the only QB UT brought in this year and that was agreed upon. Kendall's brother is a walk on receiver at Kentucky and he visited there a few times and was talking about visiting Auburn and a couple of other schools, while not wanting UT to bring in another QB. Bajakian leaves for an NFL job and UT brings in DeBord as OC, and he prefers JG over Kendall. UT and Kendall come to a mutual parting of the ways and JG immediately schedules a visit to UT. That and Butch's long standing relationship with the family leaves a lot of us believing it's going to be UT, not to mention the fact that he is a perfect fit for our offense. My guess is that if he were going to commit to RU, he would've done it earlier, as QB's tend to commit earlier than other positions because there are only so many positions available and if you want to be an anchor for the class, you can't be committing too late in the year. I'm sure it's happened, but I can't remember the last time I saw a big time QB commit in January or February. Good luck to you guys either way.
Hey Musteng, thanks for giving your analysis. What's the feeling on DeBord as OC? He had a pretty bad record as HC at Central Michigan, and prior to that he was OC at Michigan during some good times.
I think that most of us were not happy with the pick originally. We remembered him from those Michigan offenses that weren't too exciting. Many wanted them to move Azzanni (the WR Coach) to OC and move Nick Sheridan (GA) to QB Coach because they didn't want to lose Azzanni. I think most everybody has warmed up to him because the recruits (and more importantly the current players) seem to like him. The hope is that he will bring a little bit better of a downhill rushing game back, as he has a lot of OL experience and he is working with them quite a bit. Early read is positive, just too soon to tell though.
 
Originally posted by wheezer:

Originally posted by hiwater:


Originally posted by wheezer:



Originally posted by RCTrooper:
The reasons that I heard that was being held against RU was:
1-Loss of Fridge; the elder JG really believed in him
2-Level of talent that would surround JG at RU when compared to Tenn or OSU
3-It wasn't SEC v Big Ten. it was SEC v Rutgers. Even for legacy players, RU is still seen as the little engine that couldn't
I hate reason one.......I would have thought that RU could have retained Fridge in some capacity, enough to assure
JG that Fridge would have input and guidance for him at RU....

we should have been able to do something along those lines, if needed.
We did
ok then.....and now the latest from a Vol source:

one inside the Tenn program and the other who is well connected to New Jersey, that after Jarrett Gurantano commits to the vols on April 15 that Kareem Walker will decommit from OSU shortly after and will be a vol by August. Just remember you heard it here first. Butch gets who Butch wants.
I can almost guarantee you that is BS. There has been no mention of Walker having any real interest in UT by any of the mods on either of the UT main sites. Just like every other board, we have a bunch of guys who attempt to build their e-cred with stuff like that. .
 
Originally posted by wheezer:

Originally posted by hiwater:


Originally posted by wheezer:



Originally posted by RCTrooper:
The reasons that I heard that was being held against RU was:
1-Loss of Fridge; the elder JG really believed in him
2-Level of talent that would surround JG at RU when compared to Tenn or OSU
3-It wasn't SEC v Big Ten. it was SEC v Rutgers. Even for legacy players, RU is still seen as the little engine that couldn't
I hate reason one.......I would have thought that RU could have retained Fridge in some capacity, enough to assure
JG that Fridge would have input and guidance for him at RU....

we should have been able to do something along those lines, if needed.
We did
ok then.....and now the latest from a Vol source:

one inside the Tenn program and the other who is well connected to New Jersey, that after Jarrett Gurantano commits to the vols on April 15 that Kareem Walker will decommit from OSU shortly after and will be a vol by August. Just remember you heard it here first. Butch gets who Butch wants.

I get a kick out of all the recruiting geeks who think the rankings determine everything. Tenn has done squat since Jones has been there. They better break out this year or Jones will be on a much hotter seat than Flood ever has been.
 
ok then.....and now the latest from a Vol source:

one inside the Tenn program and the other who is well connected to New Jersey, that after Jarrett Gurantano commits to the vols on April 15 that Kareem Walker will decommit from OSU shortly after and will be a vol by August. Just remember you heard it here first. Butch gets who Butch wants.
LMAO at this part. That's the funniest stuff Ive heard in a while. If this guy is correct I'll die laughing
 
they're going to build him a street at the intersection of Peyton Manning way LOL
 
Joe Flacco chose Pitt over Rutgers and others and ended up at Delaware.

Some day Rutgers will be a prime first choice for NJ HS talent who actually like their home state... I do not know if today is that day... but that day is coming.
 
"Fool me once, shame on you..."

All the ridiculous Announcement Day! hype reminds me of one thing and one thing only:

Brian Toal.

Never again.



This post was edited on 4/13 8:19 AM by RU4Real
 
Originally posted by RU4Real:
"Fool me once, shame on you..."

All the ridiculous Announcement Day! hype reminds me of one thing and one thing only:

Brian Toal.

Never again.



This post was edited on 4/13 8:19 AM by RU4Real
Yup. This place is going to be in meltdown mode through next weekend. If the kid was coming here he'd have said so already.
 
respected Vol poster "gofightwin" just said that he will stop posting forever if JG does not declare to Tenn......just wanting other RU fans what is going on over there.
 
I don't know something about this kid's recruitment has me thinking he picks a school that isn't the one everyone thinks he is going to pick.
 
Originally posted by Scottbar:
I don't know something about this kid's recruitment has me thinking he picks a school that isn't the one everyone thinks he is going to pick.
I would like to believe that, but I would bet that he already let the coaches of the 3 teams know what his decision is. He tweeted that he was making his final calls last night. That leads me to believe that Tennessee is definitely hi choice. IMO, there is no way that everyone on the vols board is still so positive if he let the coaches know he was not going to be a vol. The coaches there would leak the info out to the so called insiders who in tern would have modified their definitive "he's our" statements to salvage some credibility. Also, OSU people are still not confident to get him.

The only people that have not leaked anything out is the RU people who undoubtedly would know by now if JG made the calls he said he was doing last night. Maybe RU coaches leaked info to the SN staff, but they aren't as loose lipped as the TN and OSU site mods.
 
RU4Real

I here you loud and clear

There isn't too much going on...so better to talk about this than other nonsense
 
Tennessee ttttttttt Tennessee ttttttt Tennessee ttttttt Tennessee. Can't wait until this is over and by over I mean NSD. We will likely get a QB but likely one flying under the radar.
 
Originally posted by Dr. Potato:
Don't care. Not following 17 year old kids daily whims. It's asinine.

The whole process is ridiculous at this point.
Amen. Absolutely.
 
Originally posted by S_Janowski:
He's been showing interest in Tennessee and Ohio State to hype up Wednesday when he announces Rutgers.
I like this line of thinking, South Jersey brother.
 
Those orange shoes he wore at RU practice did it for me, he will choose UT. Sucks.
 
Originally posted by gordel1:
Those orange shoes he wore at RU practice did it for me, he will choose UT. Sucks.
He may well choose Tennessee, but do you realize how ridiculous your post is?
 
Usually, Coaches know who is going to commit, sometimes weeks before they do. So, my 2 cents......

As I look at our offer sheet, I see 3 legit QB offers, 1. Guarantano 2. D. Haskins 3. A. Russo.

With Guarantano and Haskins, Flood would be extremely happy with either, Russo is also very talented reads well, good arm, excellent timing and accuracy, but just not either Guarantano's or Haskins level. He is the fall back guy(sorry Mr. Russo no offense).

Then you have a 4th QB, Steven Duncan, who I believe if pursued, would commit to RU. He is BIG, with a BIG arm, but slow afoot. Does move well in the pocket, and reads defenses well for his age, similar to Russo.

But, that is it! And, based on the Lack of activity from the RU coaching staff, they know where Guarantano is going..............

RUTGERS!
 
Hope its RU but agree with Wheezer and Bill86. UT gives him the best combination (in his eyes) of college atmosphere, coaching staff, and playing time.

Can't help feeling he would be happiest at RU. But not my decision.
This post was edited on 4/13 2:22 PM by LeapinLou
 
Originally posted by KnightsofChrome:
Usually, Coaches know who is going to commit, sometimes weeks before they do. So, my 2 cents......

As I look at our offer sheet, I see 3 legit QB offers, 1. Guarantano 2. D. Haskins 3. A. Russo.

With Guarantano and Haskins, Flood would be extremely happy with either, Russo is also very talented reads well, good arm, excellent timing and accuracy, but just not either Guarantano's or Haskins level. He is the fall back guy(sorry Mr. Russo no offense).

Then you have a 4th QB, Steven Duncan, who I believe if pursued, would commit to RU. He is BIG, with a BIG arm, but slow afoot. Does move well in the pocket, and reads defenses well for his age, similar to Russo.
Anthony Brown may get an offer as well, especially if he opens strong this season.
 
Forgot about Anthony Brown, in a regular year, both he and Duncan would have been offered, by now. Brown has not committed to Syracuse, so probably waiting for RU offer. Which, adds validity to my prediction.

I like Brown, but a little short for our Offense.
 
Originally posted by LeapinLou:
Hope its RU but agree with Wheezer and Bill86. UT gives him the best combination (in his eyes) of college atmosphere, coaching staff, and playing time.

Can't help feeling he would be happiest at RU. But not my decision.
This post was edited on 4/13 2:22 PM by LeapinLou
This is the one I don't get--coaching staff. Butch Jones hasn't done jack. And his choice of OC is suspect. Maybe I will ultimately be wrong, but I see Tennessee flopping with all of their highly rated talent, just like Michigan and Texas over the last several years.
 
Originally posted by GoodOl'Rutgers:
Joe Flacco chose Pitt over Rutgers and others and ended up at Delaware.

Some day Rutgers will be a prime first choice for NJ HS talent who actually like their home state... I do not know if today is that day... but that day is coming.
Some day, Rutgers will be a first choice for top high school talent, nationwide.
 
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