Good post. We have some pretty dumb know it alls for “fans”.
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Some are dumb, and some are angry and spouting off after a very disappointing loss and a terrible performance yesterday by the team and coaches.
There are MAC teams that are better than us. Every year. Ask P.J. Fleck. Like some of the directional Michigan teams.
You might be right but those same MAC teams are sometimes better than Indiana Illinois, Northwestern, Maryland and possibly other B1G 10 teams. I was asking about specifically the 3 and 4 star lineman ( like the ones we're getting next year) that chose the MAC over RU?
p.s. - I'd ask PJ about that but for some reasons he's not taking my calls?
OSU/WI were bad, but I didn't feel the same way about MD. It was 26-16 deep into the 3Q and if we had converted our two 4th and goals inside the 3, perhaps the game ends up differently, but at a minimum it would certainly have been far closer. We went from the worst P5 team in 2019 to 3-6 last year to 5-7 this year, just missing on a bowl bid, and Greg's recruiting continues to improve, which will allow continued improvement in the team. Some portal steals would be nice too. The future is still looking bright to me.
How about before Ash. Pretty sure PJ Fleck was available and still at WMU. Some here wanted him, me included. But others said he would fail in the B1G with the weak row the boat gimmick.
Then dum dum hired Ash.
Then dum dum hired Ash.
I was on the Lance Leipold train before Greg got back in the picture. While I am happy with RU’s progress, I have no doubt that LL could have done really great things at RU.
I will watch LL at Kansas but have no doubt in a few years Kansas will be good. And then LL will be off to a bigger program.
My problem anything bad we blame on the previous staff any good we credit the current staff. The coach get paid 4 million a year it is his team period. GS has never developed a stud QB and until he does he will remain a sub 500 coach.
Said something similar like this for years on here…
Hayden Fry’s Iowa became “Hayden Fry’s Iowa” when he got his Chuck Long.
We saw the difference on Saturday when Maryland had their guy who we didn’t see the previous year because of COVID.
Obviously it’s more than just one position (and it seems thru this current class we are showing that) but having that type of QB doesn’t hurt.
And this was Locksley's third year. He had the benefit of knowing Taulia at Alabama.
And keep in mind that the guy who should be the most adept at developing a stud QB is still trying at Michigan. It ain't easy. There were really only two true young stud QBs in the entire B1G this year- Taulia and CJ Stroud. There were some other decent ones, but perhaps not studs.
It ain't easy. Did someone say that already?
Not only dumb know it alls but shallow "experts" who go for the latest flavor of the day
Wut? Not sure what your question is in context to.
If because Locksley went to a bowl in year 3, we should too, the answer is not that simple.
It remains to be seen if Gavin or some other QB on the roster or we acquire is going to rise to at least the level of Gary Nova (or perhaps Laviano) and we have decent OL performance.
Remember, Maryland did not have an Ash who cratered recruiting for 4 years.
There are plenty of MAC games on TV. Watch a game or two. Then tell me there aren’t plenty of lineman who could play here, day one.
To your point, some MAC teams have competed nicely against B1G teams, although they were only 1-10 this year against the B1G.
Bowling Green beat Minnesota this year.
Eastern Michigan beat Illinois in 2019
2018 was a banner year for the MAC against the B1G:
Buffalo thrashed Rutgers in 2018
Akron beat Northwestern in 2018 39-34
Eastern Michigan beat Purdue in 2018
In 2017, Northern Illinois beat Nebraska
Eastern Michigan beat Rutgers in 2017.
Now, in one or two games against B1G competition per season, the OL can play. The question is would they hold up in 9 B1G conference games. With proper strength and conditioning- probably?
More importantly, how would they hold up against the meat grinder we faced in the middle of the season of consecutive games against Michigan, Ohio State and Michigan State?
Next year we end the season with Iowa, at Michigan St., Michigan and Penn St.
That's what life is like in the B1G 10.
A positive in the schedule is that our open week is at the exact midpoint of the season and right after tOSU.
I think the point @Mr_Twister is trying to make is there is some talent in the MAC. And maybe we should try grab/offer one of the better OL when they make their intentions known via the portal.
I bet there is at least one (if not more) OL in the whole MAC who could come and start here from day one.
I do watch MAC games and you are 100% right. I thought you were inferring that there were some lineman who turned us down and went to a MAC school instead. Apologies if I misinterpeted.
My comment was in reference to a MAC team playing a full Big 10 schedule, especially the 3 game meat grinder we faced this year.
Absolutely, @Mr_Twister is right. It's about having ENOUGH linemen so that they can be rotated and fresh throughout games AND the season. As we saw this year, we did not have enough seasoned/experienced OL to get through the grind of the schedule.
Checking out linemen that Rutgers should pursue from the Big Ten geographic footprint.
OP should have included some intentional mistakes in order to reveal when his stuff gets reused without attribution.
And everyone on this board would’ve ripped him and admin a new one since he’s not Schiano.
there are a lot here that arn't blindly loyal to Greg and really would have liked someone else.
So I doubt there would be many who would have ripped the administration for hiring someone besides Schiano.
But would have if the new HC had a weak resume .
Greg was hired because Hobbs couldn't find a good one and Rutgers fans were impatient
to get someone who they could trust to fix the mess the program looked like.
Remember Hobbs looked like he was trying to keep Greg from getting the job, but he wasn't getting a bite from the ones that could be considered good candidates.
At least that's the way it looked .
So Hobbs and Schiano reached an agreement and if I remember right, there were a few that didn't like that agreement, but most thought it was OK because the program needed to be rebuilt
Remember, Greg was negotiating hard and making demands the BOG and donors were not able or willing to meet, not that Hobbs was "trying to get Greg from getting the job." Perhaps to people not directly involved in the process, it may have "looked" that way. Like any AD in such a negotiation, he had to have a few next best alternatives in the negotiations. Anything else posted on this board is unproven gossip. Only Greg, Hobbs, Greg Brown and other BOG members truly know how the whole thing transpired. Ultimately, Greg reduced his demands and they came to an agreement.
Thanks for explanation and if memory serves me correct Schiano did have demands ( at first) that were negotiated down before he was hired.
Do you ( or anyone) know if Hobbs had any candidates he went after or if anyone interview for the RU HC position before Hobbs hired Schiano .
My opinion, without inside or any valid info, is Hobbs wasn't offering what the better candidates would want, so the pool of quality candidates might have been shallow and with very little of them looking Rutgers way .
But that's just my guess, without one bit of proof
Bull crap Hobbs never wanted Schiano. It would make him 2nd fiddle in Athletics which he is now. If it wasn't for the fans, NJ media and Greg Brown making noise then Hobbs would have hired a cheap nobody. Hobbs looked like a fool in that whole process
I have no inside information. The only people I would trust on their recount of events are Schiano, Hobbs, Brown, and maybe a couple of other BOG members.
IIRC, candidates were interviewed. Butch Jones? In a lawsuit Bielema filed, it said he was under consideration for the Rutgers job. Greg was smart to come in with sky high demands and negotiate from there. Never come into a negotiation with exactly what you want, as you will often walk away with less than what you wanted.
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