If the perception (whether true or not) is that he used his position of power as our AD to sweep something bad under the rug, it would be a crummy look for Rutgers, the extent of which would be determined by how bad the act he was covering up for was. I’m not implying anything like this happened. At this point, best case scenario is it’s the gymnastics coach with those rumors floating around, Hobbs has heart stuff going on in the background, Star Ledger caught wind of the affair and started probing. He panicked and resigned (perhaps because his health actually isn’t good and he knew he isn’t physically up for the scrutiny that would accompany this). Chances are there’s nothing to the issue with the gymnastics teacher in terms of the gymnasts but Star Ledger would make a huge thing of that regardless.
Rutgers athletic director Pat Hobbs abruptly resigns
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If the perception (whether true or not) is that he used his position of power as our AD to sweep something bad under the rug, it would be a crummy look for Rutgers, the extent of which would be determined by how bad the act he was covering up for was. I’m not implying anything like this happened. At this point, best case scenario is it’s the gymnastics coach with those rumors floating around, Hobbs has heart stuff going on in the background, Star Ledger caught wind of the affair and started probing. He panicked and resigned (perhaps because his health actually isn’t good and he knew he isn’t physically up for the scrutiny that would accompany this). Chances are there’s nothing to the issue with the gymnastics teacher in terms of the gymnasts but Star Ledger would make a huge thing of that regardless.
You know we can all see your previous posts? That’s not how you started.
Isn't "the best case scenario" that Hobbs is resigning solely for the health reason he gave? Why should we assume that there is misconduct here when (so far as I can tell) no one has presented any evidence to support that?
Wait, wat? Facts are based on tge rumor because x matches x?
You may be on the inside but why are posted the dumbest shit ever.
I know tge facts! They are on Reddit! It is about X who I said is X but can’t tell you who X is
Again- you may have inside info but stfu in telling everyone to just to take you on your word when you have not given your word.,,
He's not good at math, logic, grammar or much else. Have seen this type of shitshow many times. Once in a while, the shitshow pans out. Most of the time it does not.
I alluded to what happened before the Reddit post went live. When it did, I still didn’t want to be the one on this board to explicitly say what happened (because I’m a Rutgers guy and it stinks), so I just directed people to the Reddit thread.
I guess my fault was being hesitant to explicitly say it and also for not directly exposing who I heard the info from. That’s on me I guess.
Nope, I've been consistent. The only thing you have pointed to is a Reddit thread and your representation that you "know" something. You really only know something if you have tangible proof such as photos, texts, emails, etc, and not the rumor of a close friend of a friend, family member, etc. Spill what you've got, or else stop dragging this out. Because you started out badly with nothing, and have only pointed to a Reddit thread, which means nothing.
You shouldn’t partially lob a grenade. If you’re confident about info, come out with it instead of deflecting to Reddit. If you’re not confident enough to do that, you shouldn’t have posted innuendo in the first place. It’s that simple. If the info is solid it’ll come out eventually and be confirmed.
Yes you’ve been consistently wrong in your attack of me.
Let me ask you a question. Hypothetically if my mom was the head of accounting for Enron just prior to the scandal breaking and told me they were cooking the books. Would I then have direct knowledge of the situation or would that be a “rumor from a family member”?
Fair. Point of nuance here, though… I was never unconfident in the info, I was unconfident in my desire to explicitly share it.
But you’re missing my point then. Don’t put it out there and just let it play out. I do think your intentions were in the right place but you couldn’t resist the urge to get attention on social.
I agree that’s also partially fair.
But this is a message board forum. Isn’t this exactly where we talk about things like this? I guess we have different interpretations of what this space is for.
You like to play the victim. I have not attacked you except for one reference to the anatomy of a horse, which you unwittingly teed up. I have questioned you and asked for more information. You have been very elusive, vague and defensive, which only further fuels people questioning what you have "Got," GotEmm.
To answer your question, that all depends. Maybe in her opinion, things were off and she thought they were cooking the books. Maybe in the professional opinion of the CEO and/or Board, they thought they were not. It would be an opinion from a family member that may or may not be correct.
As I have said, have seen these situation based on rumor and innuendo rarely play out as the rumors intimated. They are either completely wrong, misinterpreted, or off base. But once in a while, they turn out to be correct. That's why many others who have not attacked you have asked you to put your cards on the table. And if you were not willing to put your cards on the table, then perhaps you should not have shared what you know.
He says he didn’t learn from Reddit. He’s confirming it.
If you don’t believe him without more meat, that’s not his problem. Take it or leave it.
I guess you can’t assume but his abrupt resignation makes absolutely no sense. If he had a medical condition he would take paid leave until he could no longer work and retire. Sorry, but it’s extremely likely that something else is afoot here and it’s probably not good
Thought that would be a pretty black and white question lol. Nvm.
Possibly. But I think we can always challenge ourselves to raise the level of discussion on this board and avoid gossip and speculation. There are very smart people on this board many of whom are connected who choose not to share everything they hear. It’s not helpful in many cases and in most cases, it’s like a bad case of telephone which presents only partially correct info.
I’m not speculating, but I’m fine with this take. You make a fair point! Appreciate you coming at this with a tempered perspective.
NO that’s not what I’m saying. I was simply replying to your specific post.
Im personally waiting to see what ends up being the actual issue. That being said, merely pointing out that IF something comes out re those rumors it still can be true that he has a health issue and isn’t lying about it to save face. Just we wouldn’t know if that health issue in of itself would have caused him to resign on its own.
That was my point. If something is going to come out, why bother with the health angle?
He may feel he's at the point *now* where he can no long work. That's what he says his doctors told him. Maybe he has enough loyalty to Rutgers not to want to exploit the school when he knows he will never be able to do his job again. Some people do have that much integrity. So I disagree that his resignation "makes absolutely no sense." Indeed, it's the right thing to do under the circumstances that he has disclosed.
Can’t work another few summer weeks after alerting his employer, and said employer won’t even publicly acknowledge his successful tenure ? Not buying it.
Don’t know for sure one way or the other but it doesn’t pass the Shelby Smell Test.
I’m just saying if something comes out it doesn’t automatically mean he lied about the health issue.
I can’t speak for his reasons but maybe Because if other stuff were to come out after he was gone it might be less of a circus for him and the school (although maybe not with this nyc media frenzy). Or maybe he thought if he left then potential alleged issues might get ignored publicly.
So I was just speculating that he could be telling truth period about the health thing and just using it to soften blow from the other stuff if there’s other stuff. Whereas if this other stuff doesn’t exist maybe he’d ignore the health results and keep working.
So- if you have te info - here is the thing...I was inside for a number of years. And if someone posted something untrue- I would say that I can tell you it is untrue. If someone posted that they heard something was true- I would say- "I have no idea but it may have some legs".
You made a statement of fact. And you may be right or wrong- but if you are in that inside circle- you are looking for glory in a message board made for fans, run well, successful- but will not make your life better or worse.
Also, one typically can't "replace" someone on a LOA with anyone other than an internal interim person, whereas RU can replace Hobbs immediately with hopefully a top hire, which is far better for the university and the athletic dept. Everything else is just rumors and noise until and unless someone documents something questionable or nefarious, which nobody has done yet.
I don’t understand that if you are such a ‘Rutgers guy’ why you would even mention anything in the first place even if you had firsthand knowledge of the situation? What if it never came out? Just let the guy leave and not make a big deal about it?
At this point there is *no* evidence that there is "other stuff." So maybe you-- and others -- should postpone speculation until there is such evidence.
False, Mr. law guy. There’s circumstantial evidence as you well know. Namely, no event or any official acknowledgement celebrating his tenure, Schiano’s crediting of many others except him in the recent presser, the oddity of immediate retirement, etc.
And media... why should the S-L or NJ.com care if anyone has an affair? How about they firs publish a list of everyone in their corporate hierarchy who has had affairs.. if that is what this is.
Hmm.. if what you say is true.. Pat's medical issue would be a former NFL linebacker's foot stuck up his ass. Not buying it. But I will say the suddenness of it is very odd.
Because it is the SL. Many of us know their history when dealing with Rutgers. If this rumor is true, the are all salivating at this very moment like a pack of wolves hovering over a maimed moose.
I didn’t bring up the Bible dude, our resident know it all KS did. I was simply pointing out the irony in how he uses select passages from the Bible that can interpreted in different ways in order to justify the action of something that is specifically spelled out as a sin in the same book.
Really, it’s just a reminder of what an unbelievable hypocrite KS is.. carry on
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I just don’t think what you say above looks bad for Rutgers. It sure looks bad for Hobbs, but he’s no longer here so who cares.
If our admin knew about the cover up, and it went a bit deeper than Hobbs…that’s when it starts to look bad, imo, for RU
It’s not about an “affair”..it’s about having relations with one of his subordinates..which is a no no almost everywhere
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