Football Rutgers Football adds Wagner to 2022 schedule

[angmo]

Bama beat Mercer 48-14 - maybe less of a beating than Bama would give RU. Mercer is a cupcake for Bama but Wagner would be a cupcake for Mercer. Look at Mercer stadium vs Wagner (one sided field) - Wagner is like a community college. Locally, Middletown high school has a nicer field.

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High school stadium aside, looks like a nice campus.

People also overlooking that this is a nice showcase for RU for local talent. Supporting local schools is what every P5 school does. High school coaches love that. They appreciate that, since the majority of their talented players go to non P5 schools and can receive scholarships.

 

[Shelby65]

We get almost nothing out of playing a team as bad as Wagner. A middling FCS team at least presents a slight challenge and learning opportunity for our players. I was in favor of playing Monmouth and UDel.

Waiting until now to fill our 2022 schedule is a poor excuse for throwing up our hands and saying Wagner is the best we could get.

exactly correct. the delay was intentional for this exact reason. 1.0 did the same thing, then scheduling 2 weak FCS in the same year to get an extra cheap win.

 

[Knight Shift]

exactly correct. the delay was intentional for this exact reason. 1.0 did the same thing, then scheduling 2 weak FCS in the same year to get an extra cheap win.

You know about the "intentional delay" how? You don't have to answer because you are just piling on with your hatred.
To draw such a conclusion, you would have to be privy to when and whom Rutgers contacted as potential opponents and if there were other possibilities for scheduling. But you are not privy to that information, and you cannot offer an unbiased opinion.
Give it a rest.

 

[bac2therac]

Paying for drinks and sandwiches ..lmfao

 

[Scarlet Craig]

It has everything to do with efforts to put Rutgers on a higher national platform. I understand that there is no direct causation between a decision several years ago and now; however, we want to be competitive with the big boys, yet we make little boy scheduling plans. Playing Wagner will be sure to help our recruiting eff

Recruiting was fine during Schiano 1.0 in the BE when we played terrible MEAC teams OOC. To be "competitive" with the big boys, it would be great if we were relatively fresh when we played them instead of running an OOC gauntlet before our BIG East gauntlet. I'm begging, please stop.

 

[yesrutgers01]

Recruiting was fine during Schiano 1.0 in the BE when we played terrible MEAC teams OOC. To be "competitive" with the big boys, it would be great if we were relatively fresh when we played them instead of running an OOC gauntlet before our BIG East gauntlet. I'm begging, please stop.

Good point, a game like this would be perfect right before we start our conference schedule.

 

[anon_ivydyf0amkzay]

Recruiting was fine during Schiano 1.0 in the BE when we played terrible MEAC teams OOC. To be "competitive" with the big boys, it would be great if we were relatively fresh when we played them instead of running an OOC gauntlet before our BIG East gauntlet. I'm begging, please stop.

At this point and OOC schedule featuring Bama or Brookdale CC computer lab nerds makes no difference when it comes to playing said big boys. Maybe playing someone who challenges might be a better deal in terms of prep. Vandy? Zona? Duke? SMU?
Beating Wagner 63-0 is meaningless if we follow it up with a Wisconsin type game.

 

[NickKnight 1]

Is this Greggie at his best or his worst????

 

[yesrutgers01]

At this point and OOC schedule featuring Bama or Brookdale CC computer lab nerds makes no difference when it comes to playing said big boys. Maybe playing someone who challenges might be a better deal in terms of prep. Vandy? Zona? Duke? SMU?
Beating Wagner 63-0 is meaningless if we follow it up with a Wisconsin type game.

We begin the season at BC in a tossup type game... we win a close 1 and go 1-0
2nd game is now Wagner and we win 50-0 2-0
3rd Game is Temple and we win 38-10 and 3-0

We are now in the 50-60 rank
We then start our B1G schedule which is brutal but at least we are 3-0 and fairly rested and healthy

or

We play at BC and let's say we still win a close one...1-0
2nd Game is Vandy/Duke/SMU and maybe we are favored but we really won't have much of a chance to rest any players that got banged up in game one as this will be another battle...OK- let's say we still win but it is 28-17 type game
3rd Game is Temple but we now have some guys still banged up as they didnt get to rest last week. We win 30-14 and go into B1G play at 3-0 but now not as healthy as we would have been
We are now in the 50-60 rank
We then start our B1G schedule which is brutal, we are 3-0 but we are already banged up and have not had a true cupcake where we could have rested any players that were banged up.


The season will be starting on game 4 regardless of who we played in games 1-3...Our ranking will be no different and we have no benefit of playing a P5 team or even a G5 as our 3rd OOC.
We will be at best a 6 win team- do you think Wagner will be the difference with a selection committee?

Use your heads people...

 

[RUinPAC10land]

A lot of people are penciling in a win against BC, but remember that Rutgers have not beaten BC since 1991. (I was in high school at the time.) I hope you all are right.

Yes, I do know that we never played them when our school's teams went bowling.

 

[Scarlet Blind]

Recruiting was fine during Schiano 1.0 in the BE when we played terrible MEAC teams OOC. To be "competitive" with the big boys, it would be great if we were relatively fresh when we played them instead of running an OOC gauntlet before our BIG East gauntlet. I'm begging, please stop.

vvv*I don't remember saying this?*vvv

"It has everything to do with efforts to put Rutgers on a higher national platform. I understand that there is no direct causation between a decision several years ago and now; however, we want to be competitive with the big boys, yet we make little boy scheduling plans. Playing Wagner will be sure to help our recruiting eff"


The only thing I said in this thread was how bad a team Wagner has been the last 3 years, and how a game like this won't get fans back in the stadium. Wimsatt or Simon could get video game like numbers in a 83-3 type win and still won't get any national attention or improve recruiting. I didn't even know Buffalo beat Wagner 69-7 this year. I doubt Alabama uses 59-3 win over NM St for recruiting. You needed a "name" school home win to get attention off the bigger home losing streak. Temple and Delaware wins didn't do it, neither did Liberty, UMass or Texas St in 2019 or 2018. Rutgers is 4-31 at home in the B1G, 19 game B1G home losing streak, 9 of them his. He HAS to end that streak next year, and even then it will be national attention in a 50/50 good/bad way until the 2nd B1G home win happens. I think getting a full house back will help the overall play of the home team. Wagner will not accomplish that for the first B1G home game in 2022.

 

[RU#1fan]

A lot of people are penciling in a win against BC, but remember that Rutgers have not beaten BC since 1991. (I was in high school at the time.) I hope you all are right.

Yes, I do know that we never played them when our school's teams went bowling.

We will be a decisive underdog vs. BC on the road.
That is a likely loss.

 

[Knight Shift]

A lot of people are penciling in a win against BC, but remember that Rutgers have not beaten BC since 1991. (I was in high school at the time.) I hope you all are right.

Yes, I do know that we never played them when our school's teams went bowling.

But Rutgers did not lose to BC 1994 . . . .
And if they did not run off to the ACC, we would have beat them in 2011 and 2012

 

[yesrutgers01]

But Rutgers did not lose to BC 1994 . . . .
And if they did not run off to the ACC, we would have beat them in 2011 and 2012

Good chance of a couple of wins between 05-09 as well…

 

[Shelby65]

You know about the "intentional delay" how? You don't have to answer because you are just piling on with your hatred.
To draw such a conclusion, you would have to be privy to when and whom Rutgers contacted as potential opponents and if there were other possibilities for scheduling. But you are not privy to that information, and you cannot offer an unbiased opinion.
Give it a rest.

Why wait so long then ? Why wait until all the other FBS programs have picked thru and booked more reasonable FCS opponents?

As stated, this isn’t the first time. He’s used the ‘no other options this late’ before. He’s an obsessive micromanager, right ? You think he forgot to figure it out sooner ? Not a chance.

 

[Knight Shift]

Why wait so long then ? Why wait until all the other FBS programs have picked thru and booked more reasonable FCS opponents?

As stated, this isn’t the first time. He’s used the ‘no other options this late’ before. He’s an obsessive micromanager, right ? You think he forgot to figure it out sooner ? Not a chance.

I'll ask him next time I see him to see what he says.

 

[RUinPAC10land]

But Rutgers did not lose to BC 1994 . . . .
And if they did not run off to the ACC, we would have beat them in 2011 and 2012

I was at the game. It was during my junior year at Rutgers. Alcides Catanho had that nice forced fumble to seal the tie while the Beagles were in field goal range. I was actually seated in the BC student section with my cousin (who was a BC student at the time) and everyone was quiet. Ray Lucas almost brought the team within field goal range in the last seconds. Brian Sheridan was all over the field that day.

 

[Tango Two]

Rutgers-Wagner game contract: Scarlet Knights make interesting move to book NEC opponent​

Wagner will receive a $425,000 appearance for the Sept. 10, 2022 game, according to a contract obtained by NJ Advance Media following an open records request. Rutgers will also pick up the tab for 50 hotel rooms for Wagner – the Scarlet Knights pick the hotel – and provide transportation for the Seahawks (three buses) and sandwiches and drinks for the ride back over the Goethals Bridge after the game.

Wagner will be allotted 400 complimentary tickets, plus 2,000 to sell to fans. The Wagner band, cheerleaders and mascot will be granted free entrance and the Seahawks will get 60 sideline passes and up to 21 all-access passes, plus four parking passes and a suite.

Rutgers-Wagner game contract: Scarlet Knights make interesting move to book NEC opponent

Rutgers’ 2022 home opener is a true buy game.

www.nj.com

 

[yesrutgers01]

Why wait so long then ? Why wait until all the other FBS programs have picked thru and booked more reasonable FCS opponents?

As stated, this isn’t the first time. He’s used the ‘no other options this late’ before. He’s an obsessive micromanager, right ? You think he forgot to figure it out sooner ? Not a chance.

Am I remembering wrong but are you a Cuse fan?

 

[Shelby65]

Am I remembering wrong but are you a Cuse fan?

Nope. Strong dislike for Boeheim. Only good thing about them is that we got Hughes and Duncan to transfer from there. #3 my favorite RU basketball player and #31 (may he rest in peace) not far behind. BTW it was spring of 2009 when Schiano waited for only the FCS bottom dwellers to have open dates that upcoming fall to add Texas Southern. We already had Howard scheduled, and FIU which was probably FBS but just barely. Is lame and obviously intentional to wait this long and then cry "sorry, no one else left'.

 

[Shelby65]

When was this? Not saying that you're making this up but I don't recall during recent times (Schiano, Flood, Ash)
scheduling a game this late. Just looking for information as sometimes my memory isn't as good as it use to be.

see above. I added it.

 

[colbert17]

see above. I added it.

I saw that. I since deleted my post.

 

[retired711]

I felt good about scheduling Wagner until the nj.com article reminded me that they have lost twenty straight. Is it really good for us to play an obvious doormat like that? I remember when my alma mater, Cal, would play San Jose State each year. It was pretty much a guaranteed win, but the game was competitive, and there was always the chance for an upset. Here we're going to look bad if Wagner stays with us even for a quarter.

 

[Southern Gentleman]

What’s a Wagner?

 

[colbert17]

Can we put this thread to bed.
IMHO everything that can be said has been said. Basically two trains of thought:

1. OMG!!! We're playing Wagner. They are one of the worst teams in the country. This is a no win situation. What an embarrassment to be on the field with these guys. If this game is close for even for the first two minutes we'll look bad. Just another example of GS scheduling down to boost his record. No excuse for this game.
2. We're playing Wagner. They are one of the worst teams in the country. So what? We were going to schedule an automatic win in this spot no matter what the name of the school is. Our conference schedule is so difficult that this really means nothing except for a win.A one and done. Big deal.

I'm going to suggest that if this was Bucknell and not Wagner we wouldn't hear half of the teeth gnashing we are. The story would be "GS playing his alma mater". "Nice playing against Coach Susan's old team", etc.
According to Sagarin Bucknell is one spot ahead of Wagner.
Some people in the past suggested trying to get LIU. Local team, played WVU last year. LIU is two spots ahead of Wagner.
How about our old MEAC opponent Morgan St.? They are four spots ahead of Wagner

 

[colbert17]

What’s a Wagner?

According to Sagarin they are the team 6 spots behind Ark-Pine Bluff. :)


p.s. Beat Penn State!!!!!

 

[retired711]

The only thing I'd add is that I'm sure we'll make money on the game even with the payment of $425,000 plus. Maybe that's enough to justify it.

 

[RUScrew85]

Rutgers Football adds Wagner to finalize their 2022 schedule

Rutgers Football has finalized its 2022 schedule with the addition of Wagner Football.

rutgers.rivals.com

Can we add them 6 times?

 

[Kbee3]

Rutgers-Wagner game contract: Scarlet Knights make interesting move to book NEC opponent​

Wagner will receive a $425,000 appearance for the Sept. 10, 2022 game, according to a contract obtained by NJ Advance Media following an open records request. Rutgers will also pick up the tab for 50 hotel rooms for Wagner – the Scarlet Knights pick the hotel – and provide transportation for the Seahawks (three buses) and sandwiches and drinks for the ride back over the Goethals Bridge after the game.

Jersey Mike's sandwiches ?

 

[colbert17]

Jersey Mike's sandwiches ?

Sounds like a natural!!!!

 

[rurichdog]

The entire student body at Wagner could attend with their 2400 ticket allotment, with room to spare.

 

[RU Husky]

Jersey Mike's sandwiches ?

And Mrs Wagner’s pies

 

[mdk01]

Can we put this thread to bed.
IMHO everything that can be said has been said. Basically two trains of thought:

1. OMG!!! We're playing Wagner. They are one of the worst teams in the country. This is a no win situation. What an embarrassment to be on the field with these guys. If this game is close for even for the first two minutes we'll look bad. Just another example of GS scheduling down to boost his record. No excuse for this game.
2. We're playing Wagner. They are one of the worst teams in the country. So what? We were going to schedule an automatic win in this spot no matter what the name of the school is. Our conference schedule is so difficult that this really means nothing except for a win.A one and done. Big deal.

I'm going to suggest that if this was Bucknell and not Wagner we wouldn't hear half of the teeth gnashing we are. The story would be "GS playing his alma mater". "Nice playing against Coach Susan's old team", etc.
According to Sagarin Bucknell is one spot ahead of Wagner.
Some people in the past suggested trying to get LIU. Local team, played WVU last year. LIU is two spots ahead of Wagner.
How about our old MEAC opponent Morgan St.? They are four spots ahead of Wagner

But Morgan St. would bring their band.

Basically if most of the Top 25 have a game like this on their schedule what's the problem?

 

[colbert17]

Basically if most of the Top 25 have a game like this on their schedule what's the problem?

My feelings exactly.

 

[Southern Gentleman]

IMO there are only 2 reasons to schedule teams like this and they are BOTH valid reasons.

1. a “rent a win” game certainly aids the cause of getting to bowl eligibility. Nothing wrong with that.
2. the financial payout to the visiting team means that they get to help pay for other sports in that school that lose money every year.

Almost every big name school in the country does the same thing. No shame in scheduling Wagner. Go to the game. Rutgers fans should support every home game regardless of the opponent.

 

[colbert17]

IMO there are only 2 reasons to schedule teams like this and they are BOTH valid reasons.

1. a “rent a win” game certainly aids the cause of getting to bowl eligibility. Nothing wrong with that.
2. the financial payout to the visiting team means that they get to help pay for other sports in that school that lose money every year.

Almost every big name school in the country does the same thing. No shame in scheduling Wagner. Go to the game. Rutgers fans should support every home game regardless of the opponent.

Well said.
See that the Hogs open up wih Cincinnati next year. That should be interesting.

 

[retired711]

Almost every big name school in the country does the same thing. No shame in scheduling Wagner. Go to the game. Rutgers fans should support every home game regardless of the opponent.

A number of people have said this, but I don't think there are many schools scheduling opponents less than 5% of their size that have lost twenty games in a row.

 

[Knight Shift]

But Morgan St. would bring their band.

Basically if most of the Top 25 have a game like this on their schedule what's the problem?

Some of our self-loathing fans who always find something to mock or complain about.

 

[NotInRHouse]

And we cancelled a home and home series with UCLA. Disgusting!

That series would have in place of BC not Wagner

 

[NotInRHouse]

Once again. Considering our conference schedule and the limited options that we had I'm OK with this.
What happened to all the posters who said that if we are going to have a cupcake scheduled it should be a local one? Monmouth is booked. Wagner is the next closest FBS team discounting Princeton.

In true Rutgers fanbase spirit they found something else to complain about.

We had YEARS of shrieking on this board..."wHy nO lOcAl tEaM" and Hobbs does it and in year 3 of a rebuild there is crying that it's too weak of an opponent