Sad commentary on college basketball

[Scarlet Jerry]

This was posted on the Twitter account of St. John’s biggest booster. Notice how he spells “assure” - it just feels slimy:

Thank you @StJohnsBBall @RealPitino and Johnnie Nation for an EPIC year.

Big East regular season champs, Big East Tournament Champs, and a Win in the NCAA Tournament!!!!!

So F$&kin Proud!!!!!

Big Time St John’s Basketball in NYC is back!!!!!

I A$$URE you that this incredibly successful year will be the standard and the expectation for years to come!!!!! ♥️ 🙏 💪

 

[RUBlackout]

I woikd take slimy here to see some wins and ncaa tourney

 

[PJVegas]

$$$ talks and pros (formerly known as student athletes) walk. College b-ball RIP. G+ League since they’ll make more $$ than G leaguers. 😰

 

[cRURah]

i don’t think it’s much of an achievement to win by outspending almost every other team.

 

[Mholinko]

i don’t think it’s much of an achievement to win by outspending almost every other team.

I don’t think the biggest spenders are left as we’ve noted on here previously the most active portal teams and spenders either didn’t make the tournament or got bounced early

It’s also not much of An achievement to go 15-17 with 2 lottery picks this year

Or less next year

 

[wheezer]

I woikd take slimy here to see some wins and ncaa tourney

A few years ago
You hire him with the knowledge that criticism will fly here in Jersey ,
and you ignore it
He gets you to the big dance and deeper into it
If he screws up, at least you have a nice jumping off point

After decade and decade of misfiring hires......

 

[Joey Bags]

JFC it’s not slimy. It’s 100% legal and encouraged. This isn’t 2010.

If you’re not actively looking for any and all ways to buy the team you need to succeed, then you are failing.

 

[LotusAggressor]

The saying used to be "If you ain't cheating, you ain't competing." Now it's not cheating anymore. The new saying is "If you can't pay, you can't play "

 

[APKnight]

2-22 from 3 won’t get you very far.

 

[NickRU714]

i don’t think it’s much of an achievement to win by outspending almost every other team.

I'm not a Yankees or Dodgers fan but they all seemed pretty happy winning World Series.

 

[bac2therac]

I'm not a Yankees or Dodgers fan but they all seemed pretty happy winning World Series.

that professional sports where they are not asking for the fans to donate the most money to win in a yearly free agency with no rules and tampering during the season

 

[LotusAggressor]

I'm not a Yankees or Dodgers fan but they all seemed pretty happy winning World Series.

And fans whose teams weren't winning complained about the Yankees and Dodgers spending more money than everyone else.

 

[superfan01]

@Scarlet Jerry hasn't adopted to 2025. He is still stuck in 1995. Time to wake up.

 

[newell138]

that professional sports where they are not asking for the fans to donate the most money to win in a yearly free agency with no rules and tampering during the season

one day we will look back at all this and realize how bizarre it is. Asking alumni to pay the 6 and 7 figure payments to athletes to wear the uniform of your favorite college for a year.

 

[PatrickRU92]

2-22 from 3 won’t get you very far.

1st hand knowledge of this being true

 

[Mholinko]

2-22 from 3 won’t get you very far.

Neither will 15-17 multiple years in a row

 

[RU_DIO]

i don’t think it’s much of an achievement to win by outspending almost every other team.

Yes it is. If we had the money you'd be singing a different tune like all the blue bloods fans.

 

[NickRU714]

Yes it is. If we had the money you'd be singing a different tune like all the blue bloods fans.

Exactly.

Didn't see anyone saying it wasn't much of an achievement when we beat Temple or BC in football.
Or SHU in basketball.

 

[NickRU714]

that professional sports where they are not asking for the fans to donate the most money to win in a yearly free agency with no rules and tampering during the season

I must have missed all those threads and posts and fundraising campaigns:

"Rutgers can't win unless fans donate to upgrade facilities and weight rooms and locker rooms. It's up to the fans to donate or else Rutgers can't keep up in the facilities arms race and stay competitive. Rutgets Football can't win unless fans donate to build a Fieldhouse."

College athletics has always been based on begging fans to donate in order to stay competitive.

 

[bac2therac]

I must have missed all those threads and posts and fundraising campaigns:

"Rutgers can't win unless fans donate to upgrade facilities and weight rooms and locker rooms. It's up to the fans to donate or else Rutgers can't keep up in the facilities arms race and stay competitive. Rutgets Football can't win unless fans donate to build a Fieldhouse."

College athletics has always been based on begging fans to donate in order to stay competitive.

so now you want them to pay for both..thats double dipping, no way to defend that

 

[newell138]

so now you want them to pay for both..thats double dipping, no way to defend that

I thought all that BIG TV revenue was supposed to pay for all this?

 

[ClassOf02]

I must have missed all those threads and posts and fundraising campaigns:

"Rutgers can't win unless fans donate to upgrade facilities and weight rooms and locker rooms. It's up to the fans to donate or else Rutgers can't keep up in the facilities arms race and stay competitive. Rutgets Football can't win unless fans donate to build a Fieldhouse."

College athletics has always been based on begging fans to donate in order to stay competitive.

I have to imagine you see the difference between contributing money that helps to build infrastructure that allows coaches to recruit better versus contributing money that goes directly into the pocket of an 18 year old.

 

[LotusAggressor]

I thought all that BIG TV revenue was supposed to pay for all this?

Too many snouts in the trough.

 

[RUFan20231]

They weren’t doing much until Pitino came along. Any likely won’t after. Money goes only so far - after that, you need a competent coach.

 

[Unionst]

one day we will look back at all this and realize how bizarre it is. Asking alumni to pay the 6 and 7 figure payments to athletes to wear the uniform of your favorite college for a year.

That day is here right now for me.

 

[Kbee3]

I woikd take slimy here to see some wins and ncaa tourney

I don't think most Rutgers fans would. Keep dreaming though.

 

[cRURah]

Exactly.

Didn't see anyone saying it wasn't much of an achievement when we beat Temple or BC in football.
Or SHU in basketball.

It really wasn’t. anyway, we didn’t beat temple or bc because our players got more money , if they even got any money.

 

[MADHAT1]

i don’t think it’s much of an achievement to win by outspending almost every other team.

that's the game now, the big spenders start one step ahead, the rest just play catch-up and hope to get ahead.

 

[NickRU714]

It really wasn’t. anyway, we didn’t beat temple or bc because our players got more money , if they even got any money.

Didn't we beat them because we spend more on coaches, assistsnt coaches, support staff, trainers and facilities?

 

[RULoyal]

one day we will look back at all this and realize how bizarre it is. Asking alumni to pay the 6 and 7 figure payments to athletes to wear the uniform of your favorite college for a year.

Don’t forget those suggesting student fees should be jacked up to pay athletes. That’s screwed up.

 

[LotusAggressor]

It really wasn’t. anyway, we didn’t beat temple or bc because our players got more money , if they even got any money.

And we didn't beat Temple and BC that often for a stretch.

 

[Scarlet Jerry]

@Scarlet Jerry hasn't adopted to 2025. He is still stuck in 1995. Time to wake up.

Oh no, @superfan01 i know how the game is played. I was responding to tweeting “I a$$ure you…” which makes the donor look at an arrogant a$$. There is a way I would want people associated with my team to act, with a certain level of class. I’m not saying that we need to be perfect, but there is a line you have to cross if you are willing to bring in a certain coach with a certain background. At some point, we need to think about our values and be able to look in the mirror.

 

[Mholinko]

I thought all that BIG TV revenue was supposed to pay for all this?

It was and then NIL moved the goalposts

 

[Plum Street]

I have to imagine you see the difference between contributing money that helps to build infrastructure that allows coaches to recruit better versus contributing money that goes directly into the pocket of an 18 year old.

I mean the 18 year old is the talent …same as a business buying land, buildings and also paying talented employees. You need talented employees, you must understand that.

 

[soundcrib]

one day we will look back at all this and realize how bizarre it is. Asking alumni to pay the 6 and 7 figure payments to athletes to wear the uniform of your favorite college for a year.

How about paying 7 and 8 figure payments to Head Coaches coaching "amateur" sports?

 

[ClassOf02]

I mean the 18 year old is the talent …same as a business buying land, buildings and also paying talented employees. You need talented employees, you must understand that.

Sure I understand the talent on the floor is the attraction. Just like the talent on the floor/field in professional sports. In that case, my dollars go to ticket sales, concessions, apparel, etc — not directly to the players. In this case, my dollars have to go to those same things plus infrastructure improvements plus directly to players. At least in the pros, I get multi year contracts for players.

 

[RUinPinehurst]

You wanna dance? You gotta pay da band. Capisce?

 

[Kbee3]

You wanna dance? You gotta pay da band. Capisce?

That's why a lot of people have switched from a band to a DJ.
Sadly.

 

[Caliknight]

I thought all that BIG TV revenue was supposed to pay for all this?

It's paying the players. Now fans are expected to pay them more. The teams that win will be able to do that.

 

[Plum Street]

Sure I understand the talent on the floor is the attraction. Just like the talent on the floor/field in professional sports. In that case, my dollars go to ticket sales, concessions, apparel, etc — not directly to the players. In this case, my dollars have to go to those same things plus infrastructure improvements plus directly to players. At least in the pros, I get multi year contracts for players.

I mean not directly . That money goes to the owners .
So you rather have your money go to the owners ?