THE OFFICIAL 2024-2025 NET RANKINGS THREAD
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Rutgers NET moves up 7 spots to 77.
Penn state falls 8 spots to land at 26.
Penn state falls 8 spots to land at 26.
The next 3 games are huge and not only from a W / L perspective. I’m not sure we can afford to beat Seton Hall by 2.
Nice bump up to 77. Win out the rest of December, hopefully by some big margins, get to 9-4 and need to go 11-7 for 20-11 or at worst 10-8 for 19-12. We are not going to see last night’s version of this team every game (there could be some OSU like duds mixed in, especially on the road), but we need to see last night’s version a lot the rest of the year. If they play like that at the RAC the rest of the way, the arrow is pointing up ⬆️
correct....with them languishing at 202, its has to be a double digit win. I know its a rivalry game but I would like to see a plus 15 win at least
Penn State is going to be a bit of an enigma. I am not totally convinced they are a NCAA tourney team. They have 3 absolute cupcakes left non conference including Coppin at 352 and Penn at 334. On their team sheet I see their NET SOS non conference is 290 and its going to get worse. They played one legit team there in Clemson and lost. They have that win over Purdue in Q1 but by the end of the year 9 of their wins could be coming from Q4, maybe 8 since Va Tech probably moves to Q3 by seasons end. Its likely a team that will have to go 12-8 in league play and finish 22-9.
well they probably didnt think Virginia Tech would be complete ass but I guess the expectations were not high for them and they wanted to just stack as many wins as they could. It potetially can really bite them in the ass
yeah plus not beating the cupcakes at home that efficiently. RU is really only one game off of most predictions of where we would sit now but its a big wart
Very real chance Penn St win will move to a Q2 win by seasons end. I can’t see them going better than .500 10-10 in league.
Keep rooting for ND to finish in top half of ACC, will need that to be a Q2 win. And after we beat Seton Hall Saturday, root for them too, will need that to be Q2. Princeton has disappointed, that likely remains a Q3 game.
Keep rooting for ND to finish in top half of ACC, will need that to be a Q2 win. And after we beat Seton Hall Saturday, root for them too, will need that to be Q2. Princeton has disappointed, that likely remains a Q3 game.
I don't see SHU having some big turnaround. They're absolutely horrible -- watched them a few times now. VCU was a fluke I think.
SHU stinks. They won't be able to keep up with RU's scoring
If we play like we did last night, it will be a blowout
If we play like we did last night, it will be a blowout
You know better than this. It's a rivalry game where anything can happen. But I do agree that if we give the same effort as last night, we should win.
Their big Conan did not play well and was in foul trouble but he has scoring in double figures and blocking shots. They have a really good point guard and wings that can shoot and handle and put it on the floor and get to the hoop. Very athletic team that can disrupt you defensively as well.
Not sure what you are saying about their being an NCAA team as they clearly are now.
You are probably doing some early projecting Bacetology and want to kill them for their OOC schedule but they are 26 in the NeT , 33 in Kenpom , and already have a win over Purdue. I think they go at least 10-10 in the BIG 10 , so they clearly are anNCAA team unless they collapse.
I dont think 10-10 with that horrific ooc schedule and no wins there and all the other Big 10 schools around the same 10-10 will do it for them...big ten schools will differentiate themselves through their ooc performance or scheduling in the case of RU
All else equal, if we didn’t have that Kennesaw loss I’d agree with you. Even at this early stage in the season there’s already enough data to say with strong confidence that Rutgers can’t be a 14+ loss team on Selection Sunday which is where we would sit at 10-10 (and that of course assumes we beat Princeton, Columbia and Seton Hall too).
Make no mistake, I’m not saying PSU would be a lock at 12 losses, but I’d still say they’d be in better position since they wouldn’t have a loss like Kennesaw. That really hurts us. We wouldn’t be anywhere near the cut line with a 500 conference mark in my opinion. To truly feel safe - we might need to get 12 conference wins honestly. That loss was awful.
they will have a non conference sos of 300 plus with no win of note, our non conference would at least by in the 100s. Its not us vs them...its psu vs other big ten schools is why i think 10-10 wont get it done for them, it wont get it done for us either, think 11-9
I think/hope NET is used as a tool to measure SOS only. If that is the case the only thing that matters is we beat SHU. Now Purdue, PSU and Mich(?) wants us to win by a lot
I think it’s mostly that but we’d still be better off with not having a terrible net. But if we win enough games it will likely take care of itself.
Yeah I get that. I agree with you that PSU probably needs better than 10-10. But your original post mentioned Rutgers as a comparative having played a tougher non-conference to be in better position (at least that’s how I interpreted it). My point was if we hadn’t lost that Kennesaw game 10-10 would’ve set us up to have a legit chance on the bubble. Likely way better than what PSU would have.
That loss was huge, unfortunately. Usually this early you can’t predict much but it seems pretty clear that 13-8 leading up to the BIG tournament would be the bare minimum to have us in the At Large discussion. The bright side, of course, is that with 2 frosh studs, an auto bid run will never be out of reach. Always possible.
Rutgers remains 77
Notre Dame skids to 100 barely hanging on as a Q2 win.
Seton Hall at 199
Columbia 107
Princeton at 115 has alot of work to do for that to ever be considered a Q2 game at the Pru...by the way, I bet tickets sales are not that hot for that one
Notre Dame skids to 100 barely hanging on as a Q2 win.
Seton Hall at 199
Columbia 107
Princeton at 115 has alot of work to do for that to ever be considered a Q2 game at the Pru...by the way, I bet tickets sales are not that hot for that one
NET was 78 entering tonight's game and would be surprised if Rutgers does not fall into the 80s after eeking out a win over #197 Seton Hall at home
Rutgers NET drops to 85 from 78
Seton Hall moves up 15 spots to 182. Still currently a Quad 4 win
Seton Hall moves up 15 spots to 182. Still currently a Quad 4 win
If you would have told me before the game that this would be the impact to the NET, I would have thought for sure we had lost. The margin of victory/efficiency stuff is huge, isn't it?
I know the term student-athlete no longer applies, but it seems bad to have a system that rewards trying to embarrass the opponent.
The gloom and doom of the Kennesaw loss is being slightly overrated IMO. Is it bad for the resume? Absolutely, but it can be overcome. RU had a season back in 20-21’ where we only beat Lehigh by 3 (poor efficiency), only beat Merrimack 48-35 (just piss poor in general), once again not so great efficiency with only a 14 point win against NJIT, then 3 straight losses to DePaul, Lafayette, and UMass and we still got in to the play in game of the tourney. We did it with 4 in a row historic top 25/Q1 wins because of how huge a hole that team had dug itself. This team is in nowhere near that deep of a hole after non-conference play if we beat Princeton and Columbia. The Kennesaw loss is bad, but it’s not impossible to overcome. If we go 10-8 after that in the Big we are 19-12, we are on the bubble, maybe we miss/maybe we get in to a play in. 11-7 rest of the way and we are in for sure imo, 20-11 record. This team going 11-7 is not impossible, and it’s certainly not a beat four straight top 25 teams near impossible task. Is 11-7 rest of the way in the BIG going to be easy? No, in fact it is going to be very difficult for this group. Does this team have flaws that may be exposed in conference play? Yes, that is possible and I am not naive to what I have seen, but let’s try a little optimism too as the season may play out a little different and that Kennesaw loss may not end up seeming so bad. It’s still a bad loss and will follow RU even if they go to the tourney and impact their seeding, but there is plenty of runway left for this season for this team to complete a takeoff.
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well you should be able to blow cupcakes away...giving up 81 points to Monmouth and going down to the last 2 minutes with St Peters hurt alot. Seton Hall is in Q4 right now, needing a last second 3 to win the game hurts ALOT. Not sure people realized how bad SHU is. They came into the game like 330 plus in offense. They lost to Monmouth by 12 scoring just 21 points. Offensively they dominated the first half and we have the two nba stars. I know people bring up rivalry but I do not think rivalry had much to do our pretty bad defensive performance. Board seems divided right now. Yes Pike not a good coach threads are laughable but the overt praise over a last second shot win over Seton Hall to me is over the top pollyanna ish given what is ahead. This team has yet to play a complete game 11 games into the season and has 2 landmines awaiting them before Big 10 play begins.
yeah 10-8 is what its going to take to make a legit case, 11-7 definitely puts them in. 9-9 will not cut it and now they will not care if 2 nba players are on the roster if the resume isnt there.
There are 7 Big 10 schools currently in the top 30 but yet ZERO in the top 10....while it may bode well for parity in the league it will hurt the value of the wins. Like you said the year we got in after the poor start, RU pulled off some super wins. May not get as many shots this time.
I think alot is going to be determine those first 4 games of the year...at Indiana, then a 3 game home stretch of Wisconsin, Purdue, UCLA. If RU is going to be a serious contender they would do themselves well to win 3 of 4...a 2-2 split keeps them afloat but given 4 straight games away from the RAC after that I wouldnt be too optimistic...1-3 or worse is a big disaster. Indiana isnt that good despite all the hype this year. Their resume currently is weak, Their performance in Atlantis wasnt good and they looked awful in the 2nd half at Nebraska.
yeah its more than just winning and thats why im scratching my head at the pushback of some of the board on being okay with squeaking out that win vs SHU. It was a historically bad SHU offensive team. RU should have wiped the floor with them and been the aggressor. RU allowed them to waltz into the RAC and we looked like deer in headlights. If its a rivalry game why didnt we show up until the 2nd half.
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