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This is a Multiple Year Rebuild

I don’t think anyone is shaming the fan base

It’s kind of like complaining who won the election but you didn’t cast a vote
It is shaming. The message was, if you dont give, it's your fault: "It’s on the fanbase that won’t provide adequate NIL support."

To your second point, I never get that one. If I didn't vote, I can't have an opinion on the results or the effectiveness of those elected? Kinda silly to say one isnt allowed to express his own thoughts.
 
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There’s not enough talent and there’s not enough money to turn things around in one year, unless our freshmen come in and set the world on fire which is unlikely, and we get impact transfers the level of Cam Spencer, which is also unlikely.

If it was so important for basketball to win, people should have given more to NIL, but since they didn’t, we play with the hand we’re dealt. The story of Rutgers Athletics. Meanwhile, UConn just landed one of the best guards in the portal, and will make a run for #1.

Pikiell turned things around once. He can do it again. We’re not firing a competent Coach with multiple years to go on his deal. He’s gradually fixing the lack of talent on the roster under adverse circumstances. (Ie not enough money). We are just going to have to be patient. This is a multiple year rebuild. The objective this year, is to simply build the foundation. Angelino Mark and Chris Nwuli are a start. There will be more to come.
In today's world it is exactly opposite this
 
It is shaming. The message was, if you dont give, it's your fault: "It’s on the fanbase that won’t provide adequate NIL support."

To your second point, I never get that one. If I didn't vote, I can't have an opinion on the results or the effectiveness of those elected? Kinda silly to say one isnt allowed to express his own thoughts.
You could’ve expressed it by voting
 
Don’t waste your breath you’re not going to convince the crowd who thinks we’re not in trouble NIL wise or can at least be competitive with our resources and infrastructure no matter what you say

Rutgers missed the boat years before NIL became a thing … I love the RAC but we stayed married to it too long we needed to get a bigger venue with corporate boxes and a $$$ presence long ago

Fans have been conditioned for years not to spend money because Rutgers never asked them too until now and now it feels like price gouging to people… to me I understand what they are trying to do but to others they feel like it’s a burden

We’re not equipped as a school or a fan base to embrace this era and the only way it’ll change is if the school changes or fans change one of them has to take the first step
It has to be the school. The new AD must be the one to drive this. That is now his main job
 
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The term "fundraising for NIL" will take on a new meaning when the House v. NCAA settlement becomes final. If Rutgers decides not to use its revenues to pay compensation to athletes up to the level of the cap, then donors will have to make up the difference to give Rutgers sports as much money to pay players as other schools will. have If Rutgers does decide to pay up to the cap, then donors will be needed to make up for the annual $20 million hit to the budget. I doubt that Rutgers is going to be willing to add $20 million a year to the subsidy for athletics, and so without more donations a lot of programs will bite the dust.
Do you believe there is a chance Rutgers decides not to subsidize the full $20.5 million?

This view would clash with overwhelming consensus of the TKR board who see the $20.5 million as a done deal.

I share your skepticism. That is why I asked on the March 26, 2025, Ask the Experts thread:

“Pisarri stated a basketball general manager will be hired and Rutgers will spend $20.5 million on players if new settlement is approved. Does he have power to do this?”

Curiously, no response was provided.

To be clear, I see the odds of the athletic department getting the full subsidy as >50%.
 
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Do you believe there is a chance Rutgers decides not to subsidize the full $20.5 million?

This view would clash with overwhelming consensus of the TKR board who see the $20.5 million as a done deal.

I share your skepticism. That is why I asked on the March 26, 2025, Ask the Experts thread:

“Pisarri stated a basketball general manager will be hired and Rutgers will spend $20.5 million on players if new settlement is approved. Does he have power to do this?”

Curiously, no response was provided.

To be clear, I see the odds of the athletic department getting the full subsidy as >50%.
I'll take the under.
 
The NIL compensation will be taxable. But if a kid has a scholarship, that remains tax-exempt. Think of it like grad students. Their wages as TAs or RAs is taxable, but their scholarship money is not.
They have floated pay fors for the tax free tip and OT of taxingeverything an employees receives as a benefit...like lunch and holiday parties, etc.
 
It is shaming. The message was, if you dont give, it's your fault: "It’s on the fanbase that won’t provide adequate NIL support."

To your second point, I never get that one. If I didn't vote, I can't have an opinion on the results or the effectiveness of those elected? Kinda silly to say one isnt allowed to express his own thoughts.
I understand other things have to change like finding an AD who can spearhead building a program in this current era because I don’t believe we have a coach who knows how to

Case in point with the resources we do have we’re targeting guys and about to pay them $$ that nobody else will or nobody even wants

Grabbing guys in the portal this early doesn’T mean a pat on the back and it seems like he’s trying to move fast not necessarily intelligently
 
It may be a multi-year rebuild. But the build is about the program - recruiting, GMing, fundraising for NIL. Pike's a good coach, but hasn't shown that he's the CEO needed to build this up. So I'm fine with a multi-year build. But I don't see anything being built. Hope it changes. Pike's an easy guy to root for when he has the players and some stability.
He’s taken us to the NCAA twice. He can do it again if he gets the support
 
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I can't understand it, one of the selling points of Rutgers is being 30 minutes away from the financial capital of the world. Hopefully they hire an Ad that understands this..
It hasn’t made a difference in the last 100 years, except for getting us into the Big Ten. Why would it make a difference now? NYC only supports Winners. They could care less about mediocre programs.
 
Do you believe there is a chance Rutgers decides not to subsidize the full $20.5 million?

This view would clash with overwhelming consensus of the TKR board who see the $20.5 million as a done deal.

I share your skepticism. That is why I asked on the March 26, 2025, Ask the Experts thread:

“Pisarri stated a basketball general manager will be hired and Rutgers will spend $20.5 million on players if new settlement is approved. Does he have power to do this?”

Curiously, no response was provided.

To be clear, I see the odds of the athletic department getting the full subsidy as >50%.
I'm sure you would agree that a lot hinges on who the next Rutgers president is and his/her attitude toward intercollegiate athletics.
 
Absolutely wrong. Rutgers needs multiple years because there are not enough resources to do single year rebuilds.
A multi year re build assumes players are staying for multi years to be developed. That doesn't happen anymore. How do you propose developing a player, and keeping that player?
 
That’s not really my point though. If we have to pay market price for everyone every year and there are no multi-year deals then the concept of a “two year rebuild” is completely obsolete. Sure you might get a bit of a discount to retain someone as opposed to bringing them in from the portal but it’s not going to be that much of a discount.

If the advent of revenue sharing doesn’t lead to multi-year contracts for players I will be surprised and dismayed but we don’t seem to be there yet.

Al’s thesis of “we have no budget to buy players so we just need to retain our players” is nonsensical, if we don’t have the budget for the portal we don’t have the budget for retention either.
Not nonsensical. Since we don’t have enough money to buy players, we need to have enough money to retain our players. Retention is a lot cheaper than the portal.
 
Not nonsensical. Since we don’t have enough money to buy players, we need to have enough money to retain our players. Retention is a lot cheaper than the portal.
Then explain Cam, Cliff, Somerville, Mag?
 
A multi year re build assumes players are staying for multi years to be developed. That doesn't happen anymore. How do you propose developing a player, and keeping that player?
What do you mean doesn’t happen anymore. Didn’t Cliff stay for multiple years? Isn’t Grant staying? Isn’t Dortsch staying?
 
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Then explain Cam, Cliff, Somerville, Mag?
Not enough people ponied up to retain them. You’d hope that now that people understand how the game is played, they’d step up, in upcoming years.

If you’re point is, no one is ever going to step up, then if that is true, then yes, we’re screwed.
 
Not enough people ponied up to retain them. You’d hope that now that people understand how the game is played, they’d step up, in upcoming years.

If you’re point is, no one is ever going to step up, then if that is true, then yes, we’re screwed.
Enough with people "ponying up". The nickels and dimes from KOR subscriptions aren't going to do it when kids are asking 6 or seven figures. Pike's job is to get the "whales", which he doesn't seem capable of. He's getting paid a real nice salary. Work for it.
 
I know. I'm just talking about current law. The exemption of scholarships from income has been around for a long time.
Paying college athletes is new. I guess it is no different than a company paying for an employee to get a MBA. Although that could be taxed soon (which would be stupid!)
 
Enough with people "ponying up". The nickels and dimes from KOR subscriptions aren't going to do it when kids are asking 6 or seven figures. Pike's job is to get the "whales", which he doesn't seem capable of. He's getting paid a real nice salary. Work for it.
Steve Pikiell is a basketball coach. How do you propose he gets whales?

Cold call Fortune 500 companies?

Seriously if you are Steve Pikiell how do you go about doing it?
 
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Paying college athletes is new. I guess it is no different than a company paying for an employee to get a MBA. Although that could be taxed soon (which would be stupid!)
It's no different than a university giving a grad student both a grant-in-aid that reduces tuition and a job as a teaching assistant. The grant-in-aid is tax-exempt, but the compensation from being a teaching assistant is taxable. An athlete who receives both a scholarship and NIL compensation is in the same position -- the scholarship is tax-exempt, but the NIL compensation is not.
 
Enough with people "ponying up". The nickels and dimes from KOR subscriptions aren't going to do it when kids are asking 6 or seven figures. Pike's job is to get the "whales", which he doesn't seem capable of. He's getting paid a real nice salary. Work for it.
That’s like asking Pike to extract blood from a stone. Fans either pony up, or they don’t. There’s no one else
 
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No it isn’t. That’s not how markets work.
Agreed was trying to keep Cliff, Cam, Mag etc cheaper??

Talent gets paid bottom line!

Ppl are saying retention in cheaper because the players we currently have are not Power 4 level so they are cheaper.
 
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Steve Pikiell is a basketball coach. How do you propose he gets whales?

Cold call Fortune 500 companies?

Seriously if you are Steve Pikiell how do you go about doing it?
This is the new wild west. Everything has changed. He needs to adapt, and he needs to figure out how. If he can't do that, he needs to get out of the business. Change is a constant in everything. I've gone through many changes in my career. I had to figure it out.
 
Figure it out...this is college hoops 2025..
Should Pike go back to school and take marketing classes? Look up on ChatGPT and ask how to get whales for NIL purposes? Take time off researching and meeting potential portal targets?

Add in the fact we don't have an AD or President.
 
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This is the new wild west. Everything has changed. He needs to adapt, and he needs to figure out how. If he can't do that, he needs to get out of the business. Change is a constant in everything. I've gone through many changes in my career. I had to figure it out.
Great.....but how? Certain things you can't just will it to happen.
 
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Should Pike go back to school and take marketing classes? Look up on ChatGPT and ask how to get whales for NIL purposes? Take time off researching and meeting potential portal targets?

Add in the fact we don't have an AD or President.
Here you go, last sentence is particularly telling.

Attracting large donors, or "whales," to a college basketball program requires a strategic, relationship-driven approach that blends personal engagement, clear value propositions, and an understanding of donor motivations. Here’s how a coach can effectively pursue this:

First, identify potential whales—wealthy alumni, local business leaders, or passionate boosters with a track record of giving. Research their interests, past donations, and connection to the program. A coach can lean on athletic department resources, like development officers, or even dig into public records and social networks to pinpoint these high-capacity prospects.

Next, build a personal connection. Donors at this level aren’t just writing checks; they’re investing in a vision they feel part of. Invite them to practices, offer behind-the-scenes access, or host one-on-one meetings to share your goals for the program—think championships, player development, or community impact. Make it about more than money; tie their support to tangible outcomes, like a new facility or scholarship fund, and show how their name could live on through it.

Tailor the pitch to their motivations. Some whales crave prestige—name a court or endowment after them. Others want influence—hint at advisory roles (without crossing ethical lines). Many love the emotional payoff of wins and player success, so highlight how their funds fuel recruiting top talent or upgrading resources in today’s NIL-driven world.

Leverage success and momentum. Whales are drawn to winners, so a strong season or a breakout player can be your hook. Share data: "Last year’s budget limited us to X; with Y more, we could compete with [rival program]." Be transparent about the competitive gap and how their donation closes it.

Finally, persistence pays off. Cultivate these relationships over time—don’t just ask once. Follow up with updates on the program’s progress, invite them to games, and keep them in the loop. If they don’t bite, ask them to connect you with others who might.
Adapt to the new reality: NIL and donor collectives have shifted the game. If you can’t secure whales yourself, align with boosters already funneling money through these channels, and position yourself as the leader they’ll rally behind. Coaches who can’t evolve to this fundraising landscape risk falling behind—adapt or move on.
 
That’s like asking Pike to extract blood from a stone. Fans either pony up, or they don’t. There’s no one else

The average college basketball fan can’t be expected to foot the bill for seven-figure NIL deals for 19- and 20-year-old players. That’s not sustainable, nor is it realistic. Relying on everyday supporters to fund these escalating costs puts an unfair burden on those who just want to enjoy the game, not bankroll a pro-style payroll. The future of competitive programs hinges on coaches and athletic departments tapping big donors and creative revenue streams, not squeezing the loyal fanbase dry.
 
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