Seven wins after the bowl and a team that clearly looks better in November than it does in September.
What will you consider a successful season
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Its very difficult for Rutgers to be successful in recruiting without a winning season.
Forgive my ignorance, but why does a bowl win matter? Prize payout or something? Would you consider a 6-6 season with a bowl win more successful than a 9-3 season with a loss in a better bowl?
A lot of recruiting is going to happen before a game is played. Ash has an opportunity to distance the team from its' past and sell his vision.
Some of you guys have the bar set way too low. We should go at least 6-6 next year and probably will finish 7-5 or 8-4. We can't have a 3-4 game skid of blowouts like we have had the last 3 years. We need to recruit NJ better, hopefully staring with some flips this year.
And no I will not bitch about Ash if we fall short of my goals. This is just what Ii expect from him. I don't waste my time bitching on a computer.
And no I will not bitch about Ash if we fall short of my goals. This is just what Ii expect from him. I don't waste my time bitching on a computer.
1. 7-6 with a bowl win and beating PSU.
2. Something else on offense than 1st down incomplete pass, run up the middle to fool them (no one fooled) and 5 yard completion on 3rd and 8.
3. Defensive backs that don't play 10 yds off the ball on 3rd and 6.
2. Something else on offense than 1st down incomplete pass, run up the middle to fool them (no one fooled) and 5 yard completion on 3rd and 8.
3. Defensive backs that don't play 10 yds off the ball on 3rd and 6.
I want to see the foundation being laid for a good football team that is competitive with everyone. If we achieve that we can begin to worry about our record and bowl games. Also landing some top ten NJ players in the 2017 class would be a success.
Graduate transfers that weren't good enough to get on an NFL team but who have also demonstrated talent clearly above that of Laviano or Rettig are probably out there somewhere but I would imagine they are pretty hard to come by. Hopefully we get Russo.
Which would mean that the serious QB competition would probably be between Russo, Laviano and Rettig. I don't know (or care) who would win that competition. I trust the coaching staff to chose the best option.
I'll say this though. If a completely new, second coaching staff chooses Laviano to start, any of our fans that continue to whine and complain that it should be Rettig (or Russo) will be the subject of much mockery. It would be saying, if effect, that they know better than two completely unrelated coaching staffs. While we're all entitled to our delusions, that would be a delusion too far.
The good news, I hope, is that this new coaching staff will probably be much more willing to sit whoever the starter is and give the backup a chance when the offense is struggling. Ash coached under Meyer and Meyer was clearly okay with swapping QBs for a variety of reasons. So it stands to reason Ash will also be okay with it.
Playing to win and not to not lose.
Finding receivers who can find open space and catch the football.
Playing smart- avoiding penalties
Be competitive- lose no game by more than 10 points
Allowing no opponent more than 35 points
Winning more games than losses
Avoid a losing streak of more than 2 games
Miss no FG under 40 yards
Make football fun again
Finding receivers who can find open space and catch the football.
Playing smart- avoiding penalties
Be competitive- lose no game by more than 10 points
Allowing no opponent more than 35 points
Winning more games than losses
Avoid a losing streak of more than 2 games
Miss no FG under 40 yards
Make football fun again
Don't forget Gio. I think this new style of offense plays to his strengths, and may make him a stronger competitor than he was in a more pro-style set. I'd imagine the QB spot is wide open, and Mehringer/Ash will be looking at each of their strengths and weaknesses to determine the depth chart.
Regardless of who is picked, if that player goes multiple games without a TD, I'd like to see the coaching staff look at other options (even if only temporarily).
Not forgetting him. But Laviano ran pretty well and beat Gio to the field last season so unless Gio improves dramatically in the off-season, or is so fast that he can overcome whatever deficits led to his not being in the conversation last season, then I think it's unlikely we'll see him in the final competition. But who knows.
I'm stunned by the number of responses that required a bowl win in order to be "successful." Making it to a bowl is a stretch. The program is undergoing complete changes. I have no expectations in the W/L column. I give a pass to coach Ash no matter what we see this year. After that I want to see majorimprovement vis-a-vis 2015 and 2017.
Competitive Team and Be in every game(No more than 1 blowout and ZERO shutouts)
Win at least 6 games and go to a bowl.
No more run run pass on offense every series
True QB competition....If the QB is not getting it done....replace him (I don't care what the QB's name is)
Change game plan at 1/2 time if the plan is not working
Change game plan for respective opponents.
Improved DB play
Win at least 6 games and go to a bowl.
No more run run pass on offense every series
True QB competition....If the QB is not getting it done....replace him (I don't care what the QB's name is)
Change game plan at 1/2 time if the plan is not working
Change game plan for respective opponents.
Improved DB play
True - though I think our offense was more suited to a pocket passer this past season, which played to Laviano and Rettig's strengths. If his single season at JMU is any indication, the ability (and temperament) to tuck the ball and run is definitely a facet of Mehringer's offense (whether it is by design or just opportunistically). Gio certainly showed a lot of that in HS - though that doesn't mean it will translate to the college level, or fit within what Ash/Mehringer want to do.
I really think it's an open competition at this point, with every QB getting a new chance to make a first impression.
Expectations should be considered in whether or not you consider a season successful.
If everyone expects a division title, a conference title and a playoff berth and you accomplish none of those was it really a success, 0/3? I can handle losses if the other team was clearly better, but I don't think I could say that this year.
That's not happening. The honeymoon is over by game 3 at the very latest. You may not be able to judge by wins and losses, but you can tell by the end of game 3 if any progress has been made. Game 1 will be a mess with so many new things. Game 2 is an automatic win. No reason progress can't be measured by Game 3 (wIll still likely be a loss regardless).
No, man, I'm serious. I'm not saying I'll be that guy, but you know this coaching staff won't get a free pass the first season.
Then it's probably a little rude to come her asking us about it.
My wife is a 9, but I always expected I'd marry a 10, so I am a pathetic loser. How's that pig you married? Not bad for your ugly ass.
Akron Buck,
Going undefeated/ winning The National Championship. Just simple expectations on my part for Ash's first coaching season at Rutgers. Not a lot of pressure...lol!!!
DrKnightmare
Great post. I'm with you on the identity. We have completely lacked an identity since Schiano left.
Just to be clear, the first two years are free. Year 3 is where we should see some improvement, but he'll get a full five years to build something. Of a course, should he overachieve in years 1 or 2, no one will complain.
Didn't read the whole thread, but saw a lot of 6 or 7 win answers. For the first year? Sure. But everyone here knows how expectations skyrocket. It won't be long before everyone is expecting 8-9 wins, then expecting a B1G East title (once every X years), etc., etc. All it takes is "2006" and expectations will be unreasonable. Just like OSU's unreasonable expectation of a National Championship every year. There are many schools that feel that way and only one can win. (i.e. LSU/Les Miles)
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