Why do we schedule West Coast teams ?

[AntiG]

No more PAC 12 schools.Concentrate on old BIG East teams in the ACC.

Rather not. Ash outrecruited Syracuse, Pitt and BC, why give them any relevance in NJ/NYC? These road trips are good experiences for our players, it exposes them to big time games all over the country (many of them probably haven't ever ventured out too far from the east coast) and is a valuable experience in terms of character building, not to mention give fans a chance to travel and watch games outside of our own region (East coast/Midwest).

Down the line when our recruiting classes bear fruit, we'll be basically respected for traveling to the west coast and beating a tough Pac12 team.

 

[RURM85]

Rutgers also scheduled Miami, Temple, VT, Buffalo (1 home game) for future schedules, all schools east of the Miss. river.

I believe UCLA was scheduled in 2009 and then pushed back. Originally scheduled way before Rutgers became a B1G team.

Our school plays nationally and hopefully will continue. Because schedules are made so far in advance, with the exception of fill-ins, it's impossible to determine whether the game will be competitive or not. Washington State (IIRC a fill-in announced game when we were in the AAC for the 1 year) very competitive and fun games. Washington this past Saturday, not so much.

I understand Ash's position on wanting to play regional games. I just don't like the idea of playing UConn or Syracuse for the obvious reasons. Why look back in the rearview mirror?

 

[Doctor Worm]

Like it or not, the Pac 12 is our rival conference. Do like the idea of scheduling Pitt, Syracuse, Boston College, Virginia Tech, and Miami. Can't we do both, with an occasional SEC or Big 12 team?

We are doing both. We will be playing one P5 per year. Here is the schedule through 2024.

2017 - Washington
2018 - @Kansas (return visit from 2015)
2019 - @Miami
2020 - @UCLA
2021 - UCLA
2022 - TBD (possibly Miami)
2023 - Virginia Tech
2024 - @Virginia Tech

We had originally scheduled Miami for 2018. However, that would mean two P5s in 2018, which is one more than is necessary. So we pushed that game off.

 

[RUsince52]

Fun road trips for the older fans and us younger ones who can afford to follow the team around to awesome locations to cheer on the team.

Should open up with Hawaii, out there, but also hold the end of practice and pregame planning so fans can really have a great time. Tickets would never be a problem and all of RU sitting together. We did split with them back in the 70' s, but they ran a more conventional offense.

 

[Doctor Worm]

Should open up with Hawaii, out there.

Well that is certainly unconventional thinking. There is a reason why the NCAA allows a 13th game for teams who play at Hawai'i. The reason is that absent that incentive, no one would want to do it.

 

[FanuSanu52]

I've heard from a few in-the-know sources that it's to get as far away as physically possible, within the boundaries of the US of A, from whiney b@tch fans like a few here.

 

[knightfan7]

We should start a trophy game with Cal..."The Politically Correct Challenge". Both schools get participation trophies regardless of who wins.

Already had a home and home more than a dozen years ago.

 

[knightfan7]

Hasn't USC played at UVa, BC, and vs Cuse at the Meadowlands in recent years. They don't seem to have a problem with it. does any major program travel around the country more than ND?

 

[RU Husky]

So will UW be equally troubled by the cross country trip for the return game next year in Piscataway like Washington State was last year?

 

[MADHAT1]

Then go play Colorado or Arizona.

Expect that to happen in the future.
The B1G & PAC tried to schedule competition between schools from each conference, but that didn't work out as planned.
I wouldn't be surprised if that idea is tweaked and some B1G conference schools are scheduled to play a PAC school in a B1G-PAC rivalry setting.

 

[RUfinal4]

We need to start some BE rivalry games. 1 a year against an old BE mate in neutral sites. Recruit WV to join us for the rivalry.

Imagine double headers in Philly with Rutgers vs Cuse and WV vs Va Tech. Throw in BC, Miami, Temple, and UConn. You would have a nice invitational each year that can be moved between Met Life, the Linc, and maybe Fedex field.

 

[koleszar]

We need to start some BE rivalry games. 1 a year against an old BE mate in neutral sites. Recruit WV to join us for the rivalry.

Imagine double headers in Philly with Rutgers vs Cuse and WV vs Va Tech. Throw in BC, Miami, Temple, and UConn. You would have a nice invitational each year that can be moved between Met Life, the Linc, and maybe Fedex field.

:eek:Ewww!:eek: Or let's just hold it at Yankee Stadium. That'll be something special and something fans won't mind giving up a home game to attend.

 

[MADHAT1]

We need to start some BE rivalry games. 1 a year against an old BE mate in neutral sites. Recruit WV to join us for the rivalry.

Imagine double headers in Philly with Rutgers vs Cuse and WV vs Va Tech. Throw in BC, Miami, Temple, and UConn. You would have a nice invitational each year that can be moved between Met Life, the Linc, and maybe Fedex field.

:thumbsdown:
None of the programs you mentioned are good enough to make losing a home game worth it. Wouldn't mind seeing RU play WV and VT in the future in a home and home setting, but playing either of them at a neutral site isn't worth losing a home game for.
Syracuse isn't worth playing a home and home series with, much less taking a bath playing then at a neutral site.
There's very little incentive for RU to schedule the fruit and just because they are old BE opponents isn't enough of a reason to do so.
A case can be made against playing WV and VT as well.
As for scheduling Miami, good idea but Rutgers home games against them should be held at Rutgers Stadium . Let Miami's home game be at a neutral site.
Temple and BC throw that idea in trash.
As for UConn at a neutral site, I think you are pulling our leg [roll]

 

[FanuSanu52]

These threads always make me glad RU fans aren't responsible for scheduling. Bewilderingly bad ideas always abound.

 

[RUsince52]

Well that is certainly unconventional thinking. There is a reason why the NCAA allows a 13th game for teams who play at Hawai'i. The reason is that absent that incentive, no one would want to do it.

It was always thought as a reward of sorts for the team and especially the fan base. Nobody gets excited about playing Hawaii at home unless your college has its own beach.

 

[RutgersRaRa]

I don't see Maryland scheduling any Pac12 Teams. Nor do I see psu scheduling any. What are we the only douchebags on the East coast following the rules.

These games are scheduled years in advance. Maryland was already in a P-5 conference when they joined the BIG, so their OOC games wouldn't have been long distance. We needed more exposure and interesting TV match-ups when these were scheduled because we were in the BE/AAC. We also needed teams that would play us, and since we weren't a cupcake any longer, we needed middle-tier teams to play us. Enter Fresno, Washington State, and (at the time) Washington.

 

[Caliknight]

No more PAC 12 schools.Concentrate on old BIG East teams in the ACC.

No thanks.

 

[JQRU91]

Playing teams across the country increases the program's exposure. Look at it this way, after next year we'll have played teams from the state of Washington for four years straight. No college football fan in Washington is going to be saying "What's a Rutgers?" any more. On the other hand, fans of our former Big East opponents already know who we are. You don't get the same bump in exposure playing them.

 

[Hondo77]

The only old BE team that I'd like to play again is West Virginia.

 

[tico brown]

No more PAC 12 schools.Concentrate on old BIG East teams in the ACC.

Theres a reason why certain BE schools havent done well since jolting to the ACC. Keep it that way by keep ignoring them.

 

[PSUPOWER]

Playing teams across the country increases the program's exposure. Look at it this way, after next year we'll have played teams from the state of Washington for four years straight. No college football fan in Washington is going to be saying "What's a Rutgers?" any more. On the other hand, fans of our former Big East opponents already know who we are. You don't get the same bump in exposure playing them.

Traveling across the country to play teams on the West Coast like Washington costs more money, makes time management for student athletes more difficult and decreases Rutgers chances of playing in a Bowl Game, which effectively decreases Rutgers exposure and can potentially cost Rutgers at least 10 winter practice sessions that are vital to the development of their football players.

B1G East schedules are difficult enough for Rutgers Football.
Playing Temple is easier for Rutgers Football than playing Washington and gives Rutgers more exposure where they need to be successful in recruiting, the Philadelphia metro area.

 

[knightfan7]

We need to start some BE rivalry games. 1 a year against an old BE mate in neutral sites. Recruit WV to join us for the rivalry.

Imagine double headers in Philly with Rutgers vs Cuse and WV vs Va Tech. Throw in BC, Miami, Temple, and UConn. You would have a nice invitational each year that can be moved between Met Life, the Linc, and maybe Fedex field.

Double Headers?????

This isn't some early season basketball tournament. You don't play 2 - 3.5 hour football games back to back. When you add in the time between games you're talking about an 8+ hour day. No one is ever going to do that.

Come on man.

 

[Scarlet_Scourge]

We did it during the whole B1G vs Pac-12 scheduling thing which soon fell apart.

I don't think we will be adding anymore anytime soon.

It's this series and then UCLA and that is a wrap.

 

[knightfan7]

We did it during the whole B1G vs Pac-12 scheduling thing which soon fell apart.

I don't think we will be adding anymore anytime soon.

It's this series and then UCLA and that is a wrap.

Wasn't Washington added after the Oklahoma home and home fell apart and UCLA was pushed back or was that Kansas?

 

[Scarlet_Scourge]

Wasn't Washington added after the Oklahoma home and home fell apart and UCLA was pushed back or was that Kansas?

Arkansas was Oklahoma's replacement.

UCLA was moved up in 2014.

Kansas hasn't changed.

 

[knightfan7]

Arkansas was Oklahoma's replacement.

UCLA was moved up in 2014.

Kansas hasn't changed.

Thanks. Wow, I have my years all screwed up. Didn't realize the Oklahoma thing was so long ago. Maybe it's my age.

Do you think Dodd beats out Nova this year?:flushed:

 

[tico brown]

Wow... Just wow to some of the "suggestions." Sounds like some people here would rather play Temple, East Carolina, Houston in The American than play Ohio State, Michigan in the B1G. While having Princeton, Monmouth, Lehigh, Army than Washington, Kansas, Arkansas on the OOC schedule. Nevermind the $30 Million Plus future payments or the academic/research affiliations by being in the B1G.

Oh yeah, lets revive the NJ recruiting for BC, Syracuse, UConn, etc so that fans can drive to away games to bi*** and moan about having beer thrown at them afterwards.

 

[RUbacker]

Traveling across the country to play teams on the West Coast like Washington costs more money, makes time management for student athletes more difficult and decreases Rutgers chances of playing in a Bowl Game, which effectively decreases Rutgers exposure and can potentially cost Rutgers at least 10 winter practice sessions that are vital to the development of their football players.

B1G East schedules are difficult enough for Rutgers Football.
Playing Temple is easier for Rutgers Football than playing Washington and gives Rutgers more exposure where they need to be successful in recruiting, the Philadelphia metro area.

Stop the whine !

 

[kjb32812]

I find it kind of odd as well. I would be hoping for something along the east coast in ACC land.

 

[koleszar]

Wow... Just wow to some of the "suggestions." Sounds like some people here would rather play Temple, East Carolina, Houston in The American than play Ohio State, Michigan in the B1G. While having Princeton, Monmouth, Lehigh, Army than Washington, Kansas, Arkansas on the OOC schedule. Nevermind the $30 Million Plus future payments or the academic/research affiliations by being in the B1G.

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Look I'm all for playing a tough competitive schedule.(not like psu) But playing a schedule only a masochist could love by playing the #4, #5, #8, #16, plus another bowl team in the 1st 6 weeks is a little much don't you think.(B1G again did us no favor) In over 25 years of watching college football I've never, ever have seen a team play a tougher 1st half schedule.

Name me one team who has a schedule like that in the 1st 6 games, you can't it's not even close. Hell we could improve by leaps and bounds and still not recognize it, all while getting our heads kicked in. There's a big difference between playing the teams bolded and the brutal task we face. There is a middle ground, between the comparison you made.

 

[tico brown]

Washington wasn't exactly a top 25 team when this game was scheduled. Its not their fault that they got a legit coach in Chris Peterson while Rutgers stuck with Kyle Flood.

 

[kjb32812]

Question for you all. For the purpose of this, let's assume that you are better than Villanova, Syracuse, UConn, etc. I would guess you are but know absolutely nothing about their teams.

Anyhow, for your OOC over the next five years, would you rather play a MAC and one of those three teams I mentioned or a MAC/Howard/Norfolk and someone of comparable talent from another conference...let's say Virginia, NC State and Wake? Or even teams who are further along than RU (right now) like Duke, UNC and Louisville.

The reason I ask is that you obviously need wins right now. At the same time, I don't know if there is any benefit to you playing Nova, SU or UConn. I know it sounds great but there is nothing but downside in Penn State playing PITT. I used to want to see it but now I don't because there is absolutely nothing in it for us other than bragging rights (which I believe we would have if we handled our business in the B1G anyhow. We already own them in recruiting). IMO, you probaby would want UVA, NCSU and Wake. Do you guys regularly compete with Nova, SU and UConn for recruits? TIA

 

[kjb32812]

Look I'm all for playing a tough competitive schedule.(not like psu) But playing a schedule only a masochist could love by playing the #4, #5, #8, #16, plus another bowl team in the 1st 6 weeks is a little much don't you think.(B1G again did us no favor) In over 25 years of watching college football I've never, ever have seen a team play a tougher 1st half schedule.

Name me one team who has a schedule like that in the 1st 6 games, you can't it's not even close. Hell we could improve by leaps and bounds and still not recognize it, all while getting our heads kicked in. There's a big difference between playing the teams bolded and the brutal task we face. There is a middle ground, between the comparison you made.

Our schedule was loaded up with patsies by O'Brien for a reason. RU should do the same right now IMO...see my other post.

Doesn't matter, I don't see openings until the UCLA season. If someone backed out though, I'd get a cupcake.

 

[FanuSanu52]

Washington wasn't exactly a top 25 team when this game was scheduled. Its not their fault that they got a legit coach in Chris Peterson while Rutgers stuck with Kyle Flood.

This game looked like a fun matchup when it was scheduled. WA looked like a respectable P5 team, not a top 10/20 PAC contender and we looked better at the time. In fact, there were probably morons on the board who thought we'd walk all over WA because theyre not named USC or Oregon.

 

[Caliknight]

Traveling across the country to play teams on the West Coast like Washington costs more money, makes time management for student athletes more difficult and decreases Rutgers chances of playing in a Bowl Game, which effectively decreases Rutgers exposure and can potentially cost Rutgers at least 10 winter practice sessions that are vital to the development of their football players.

B1G East schedules are difficult enough for Rutgers Football.
Playing Temple is easier for Rutgers Football than playing Washington and gives Rutgers more exposure where they need to be successful in recruiting, the Philadelphia metro area.

I disagree. Rutgers is a global institution. It's football program should be national. We have alumni everywhere, including a ton on the west coast.

Playing Rowan or Primceton would be easy. But that's not the goal.

 

[kjb32812]

I disagree. Rutgers is a global institution. It's football program should be national. We have alumni everywhere, including a ton on the west coast.

Playing Rowan or Primceton would be easy. But that's not the goal.

Wow, that's funny because I thought he nailed it.

 

[Caliknight]

Wow, that's funny because I thought he nailed it.

Good for you. Feel free to petition your school to play the Uconn's of the world.

After getting embarrassed by Temple a year ago, you'd might want to reconsider that strategy though.

 

[kjb32812]

Good for you. Feel free to petition your school to play the Uconn's of the world.

After getting embarrassed by Temple a year ago, you'd might want to reconsider that strategy though.

I'm sorry but playing games on the W coast shouldn't be to appease your alumni, it should be to strengthen your football program. In all honesty I wonder if you asked 100 CA kids where Rutgers is if 50% of them could tell you.

Let me know the last five players you recruited from the West coast. Please include *s and how they did on your football team.

 

[ATIOH]

Washington wasn't exactly a top 25 team when this game was scheduled. Its not their fault that they got a legit coach in Chris Peterson while Rutgers stuck with Kyle Flood.

This game looked like a fun matchup when it was scheduled. WA looked like a respectable P5 team, not a top 10/20 PAC contender and we looked better at the time. In fact, there were probably morons on the board who thought we'd walk all over WA because theyre not named USC or Oregon.

Washington was scheduled March 2014. They ended the previous year ranked AND started the next ranked.

 

[PSUPOWER]

I disagree. Rutgers is a global institution. It's football program should be national. We have alumni everywhere, including a ton on the west coast.

Playing Rowan or Primceton would be easy. But that's not the goal.

Rutgers Football program is national by virtue of being in the B1G. Playing west coast football powers like Washington doesn't make Rutgers Football more national than playing Army, Navy, Duke, Temple, Virginia or UConn would. It just makes it harder for Rutgers to build their football program.

Army and Navy are more national schools than Washington is and Rutgers has a lot more alumni in each of New York, Maryland, North Carolina, Virginia, Connecticut, Southeastern PA, Delaware and South Jersey than they do in the state of Washington.

No one in this thread has suggested that Rutgers play Rowan or Princeton.

Playing in the B1G gives Rutgers Football all of the exposure that they need in the Midwest and beyond. However, the Maryland and PSU games that Rutgers plays don't provide Rutgers with enough regional games to balance out their schedule. Games with schools like Army, Navy, Duke, Temple, Virginia or UConn would.