Why the Center for World University Rankings is more objective than the US News World Report

[MikeRU1766]

Sure there are - but even within NJ they are much rarer than the other case (since elite students are also statistically richer students) and outside of NJ even in neighboring states it would be unicorn territory. If you were right, then given our states extremely talented student population, RU would be a top 50 school with ease.

We are a Top 50 school!

CUWR ranked us 33rd in the world. (See the other thread for a discussion about this ranking system versus US New and World Report)

We have a Top 3 Philosophy program in the nation.

Our business school was ranked the 9th best value in the nation by Fortune (or Forbes I forget)

Our Supply Chain Management program is Top 10 in the nation.

Governor Christie designated Rutgers the Supercomputer hub for the state and we also have the 10th most powerful academic supercomputer IN THE WORLD!

And that is just off the top of my head from my own experiences.

I assume our sciences have to be top rated because I am always hearing about our sciences and all that.

And I am not saying anyone specifically, but in general I think some people are still basing their opinion on Rutgers on how things were there 20-30 years ago. A LOT has changed in the past 30 years at Rutgers.

 

[MikeRU1766]

Here are 2 links for our Philosophy ranking that I figured I should throw in to save people some research time....

http://www.philosophicalgourmet.com/overall.asp

http://www.internationalstudent.com/study-philosophy/top-philosophy-schools/

 

[derleider]

We are a Top 50 school!

CUWR ranked us 33rd in the world. (See the other thread for a discussion about this ranking system versus US New and World Report)

We have a Top 3 Philosophy program in the nation.

Our business school was ranked the 9th best value in the nation by Fortune (or Forbes I forget)

Our Supply Chain Management program is Top 10 in the nation.

Governor Christie designated Rutgers the Supercomputer hub for the state and we also have the 10th most powerful academic supercomputer IN THE WORLD!

And that is just off the top of my head from my own experiences.

I assume our sciences have to be top rated because I am always hearing about our sciences and all that.

And I am not saying anyone specifically, but in general I think some people are still basing their opinion on Rutgers on how things were there 20-30 years ago. A LOT has changed in the past 30 years at Rutgers.

We are top 50 in ONE ranking. That super computer thing was a few years ago - if we ever were in the top 10 in the world (I doubt that was anything more than PR) we arent even in the top 10 now.

We have some good programs for sure. But overall, we have neither the research heft of our Big Ten peers, nor the elite student base of our former small college peers. We are stuck in between - a school that is probably a third too big for the level of demand and financial resources that it has that is still trying to shed its old liberal arts image and move into the research oriented 21st century.

 

[Ole Cabbagehead]

Ask and you shall receive. Dartmouth takes it 60-40. I didnt think it would be that close, but you have to think that money plays an issue on where kids attend. Princeton/RU is 82/18. Barring finances, I think the 18 is too high.

Sorry forgot link:
http://www.parchment.com/c/college/tools/college-cross-admit-comparison.php?compare=Dartmouth+College&with=Rutgers+University-New+Brunswick

That's interesting, but I am finding those numbers hard to reconcile. They have us losing to Harvard 67-33. So we are more likely to get "recruits" away from Harvard than Dartmouth. UM - Ann Arbor loses more than us - 80% to Harvard. But we lose to Maryland 72-28.

The only rationale reason a kid would choose us over Harvard or Dartmouth would be cost of attendance or possibly if they were going into a STEM research oriented field. For liberal arts no one would ever rationally make that choice.

 

[derleider]

That's interesting, but I am finding those numbers hard to reconcile. They have us losing to Harvard 67-33. So we are more likely to get "recruits" away from Harvard than Dartmouth. UM - Ann Arbor loses more than us - 80% to Harvard. But we lose to Maryland 72-28.

The only rationale reason a kid would choose us over Harvard or Dartmouth would be cost of attendance or possibly if they were going into a STEM research oriented field. For liberal arts no one would ever rationally make that choice.

Like I said - its clearly low numbers. For RU/Harvard almost surely just 3 people. For MD RU its likely 7. For UM/Harvard either 5 or 10. THe numbers are basically meaningless.

 

[Ole Cabbagehead]

Speak for yourself.

I sure don't. I didn't choose Rutgers over Dartmouth, lol.

 

[NJBorn]

Here are 2 links for our Philosophy ranking that I figured I should throw in to save people some research time....

http://www.philosophicalgourmet.com/overall.asp

http://www.internationalstudent.com/study-philosophy/top-philosophy-schools/

That is like a gym saying they have the best hand towels in the bathroom.
Its not important and we are the best at something worthless.

Also being the best "value" isnt the best education.