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Big Least will get overseeded and stomped in the tournament next year... Again
I mean this in the most respectful way possible...I don’t think rutgers fans can comment about tournament performance, I’m sorry
Rothstein visits most big programs and never has a single negative thing to say. This proves nothing whatsoever other than what’s been established; he’s a good player, potential to be great, potential for the NBA, but hasn’t proven anything
Yes we can't comment about our performance, we haven't been there but we can comment about SHU and the Big Least. They both got stomped and honestly, I enjoyed it. If it wasn't for Nova, your league would be an afterthought.
Texas Tech was a sellout crowd....OMG....there were maybe 6 to 7K fans there at MSG that weeknight in November or December or whenever that game was. I work or worked with at least a dozen SHU diehards and about 3 or 4 of the 12 or 13 went to MSG.
We exaggerate when necessary but stop with the our program is this or that, Big East this and that. The evolution of the B1G from 2014 to 2019 is completely different in basketball. The Big East is now taking back UConn, a program corrupt with probationary history and has SHU celebrating their OOC this year because it features 3 B1G teams in Sparty, Maryland and RU.
If we are being fair, SHU is the better program today and has been for quite awhile. But to not acknowledge that RU now has a league, revenue streams and coaching staff that is in place, would be foolish. SHU will have a place to be celebrated, but if we are fair, where are the sold out games at Prudential center??? Sure we have Villanova once a year and RU every other year, but a school should draw more than 4 to 5K per game, regardless of the opponent.
In order to be deemed a legitimate program on a national scale, until SHU has a legitimate fan base that fills their arena most nights and doesn't require Sparty, Maryland, RU or Villanova to fill it for their home games, what exactly are we arguing about??
Part of being a Top 25 program has to do with all facets....recruiting, facilities, fan base and ability to keep up in a changing environment. We are less than 6 months from 2020....what happened 5 or 10 or 20 years ago is good to reference, but isn't going to save anyone's future.....what is the future of RU in the state or region in basketball vs SHU????....This is a legitimate question someone like Carino or others have to ask themselves as league in the Big East.
I don't have the animosity towards SHU or the Big East like I used to 5 or so years ago. I'm very comfortable with where RU is going. If SHU is a good program, that's fine. The larger question is. Will anyone be there to see it....is anyone else giving the league a pass that 2019 in the tournament wasn't at least concerning?? Purdue blitzed the champ Nova in a game that was over 8 minutes into the game....and the Big East was already working behind the scenes on UConn....they see what I see...an effort to keep up.
Let's see what happens in the next decade and which program, fan base, alumni steps up and whether conference revenue stream does or doesn't matter or does it all boil down to historical league results mattering more??
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you know what's hilarious @shurings ? Why don't you go back and look at the beat writers lambasting the weak SHU fan base for being totally absent and irrelevant for the Kentucky game
Lot of "always the bridesmaid" for the B1G.
Compared to the Big East:
6 National Champions (of which 2 are from teams still in the conference)
0 National Runner Ups
13 Final Fours (of which 4 are from teams still in the conference)
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Yooooooo. Stoppppppp. The big east today is literally not the big east that youre posting numbers for.
Thought I made that clear in the post, no? How many of the teams with the titles and FF appearances are still in the conference? O.o
The Big Ten has traditionally been very good at getting teams deep in the tournament, then not winning it. Over the last 30 seasons, there has been just 1 B1G champion, despite appearing in 9 NC games.
By contrast:
ACC: 11
SEC: 6
Old BE: 5 (1990-2013, though one of those was later vacated)
New BE: 2 (2014-2019)
P12: 2
B1G: 1
AAC: 1
B12: 1
Big West: 1
No. The issue now is what will come first - a BIG national championship or this thread finally being put to rest. lol
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Let him put up Lloyd,Sellers or Douby type numbers for two years....Then let’s talk
Mo
Jaxson Hayes scored 10 PPG and was a lottery pick. Numbers aren't necessarily the key.
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quincy douby had an insane junior year but for his career he was an 18/3/3 guy. I think Ron can get close to that this year. Personally I think Ron's headed for a 15ppg/6rpg/2-3apg type of year
Hayes is no mistake. He's a monster. He's also not the only example of players without crazy stats getting drafted high.
College production does not equal pro potential
College production does not equal pro potential
College production does not equal pro potential
Uhhh, that is a stupid comment. Of course we can. And we did.
Generally, easiest way for a GM to make a mistake is to actually draft the most productive college player - i.e. the Wooden/Naismith Award winner.
Did you know Charlotte turned down four (4!!) 1st round draft picks from Boston because Charlotte didn't want to lose out on Frank Kaminsky (2015 Wooden/Naismith Winner)? Still my favorite draft story.
You dug this thread up to post this? Dude get over yourself..please.
Go get a real job.
If people are willing to stand up and be accountable for their wrong takes then there's no need to bump up old threads. Kyk has already said elsewhere that his expecting more of Harper is looking bad.
It wouldn’t shock me if Harper declares after this year so that he can be assessed and be advised of his strengths and weaknesses by nba personnel. . Regardless, Harper will be / should be back with Rutgers next year as he needs to improve and strengthen himself as he is not anywhere near ready for the nba.
2 things I can tell all:
- At the last court club meeting,Coach Hobbs told us he has notified scouts of Harper of his possible climb to the NBA
- At the Umass game, I sat several seats from Jeff Ruland who is now a scout and trust me he was not there for any Umass players
2 things I can tell all:
- At the last court club meeting,Coach Hobbs told us he has notified scouts of Harper of his possible climb to the NBA
- At the Umass game, I sat several seats from Jeff Ruland who is now a scout and trust me he was not there for any Umass players
Oh, THIS thread. Boy oh boy. It’s early, though. Let’s hope Harper, Jr. can pick up his shooting. He is scoring more.
Agreed - he's starting off slow like he did last year, but not quite AS slow. Still think he'll end up around .333, but if I had to bet right now I'd probably take the under on that rather than the over.
IMO until he's over 15-18 ppg, shooting >40% from 3, and >75% from the line his declaration should be : "I'm coming back to Rutgers...in 2020-2021".
MO
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