Wimsatt will be our Starting Quarterback next year

[mildone]

Rutgers football NIL is used to keep the players we have.
Sometimes it’s used to match an offer if a player has been tampered with.

Does anyone think a guy like Hollin Pierce who never gets hurt and plays every game would be pissed if Rutgers paid twice as much as he makes for a new portal Right Tackle?
Do you think that scenario would create a healthy locker room?

Works both ways, right? Do you think schools, those capable of shelling out big NIL bucks to land great players, are going to be all that upset if an existing player that isn't as great decides to go somewhere else out of jealousy over NIL pay? You take the better player 100% of the time, unless there's a problem with that player (i.e. personality issues, bad fit issues, etc.).

And put NIL aside for a moment. Existing players always live with the "threat" that better players will enter the program via regular recruiting from HS. Now they also have to live with the threat that other players might come into the program via the portal who wouldn't come here without us beating out other schools with NIL funding offers.

My point is that increasing NIL funding increases the ability of the coaching staff to land good players. Which is unarguable. The fact that coaches now have to manage the egos and jealousies involved doesn't change that - it's just part of the job now, same as it is in the pros.

 

[PSAL_Hoops]

I wish we could somehow get the Drones kid from Virginia Tech. He would be a perfect fit.

 

[RU from Jersey]

With more and more guys opting to return next year(Lewis just announced today) it is imperative to get the QB situation fixed. I don't care who will be the QB next year I just want someone that can win a game or 2 by throwing the ball for 300+ yards. If that can happen next year will be exciting.

 

[zappaa]

You didn’t remotely address my question
Hollin Pierce is a dependable multi year starter.
And…. I never said the portal Player in question was better, just paid more.
Pierce is still the starter at left tackle
I also am quite versed on how money can divide a locker room.

 

[mildone]

His short and medium pass game is not “competent”.

Nah. He has demonstrated an ability to make all those throws. He can make any kind of throw.

He is competent. The problem is that he is inconsistent. Fix the inconsistency and do nothing else and he instantly become very good, at least at throwing the ball.

In sports, with someone who is truly incompetent, no amount of improvement can fix it. It’s baked right into the person. They can never become good because they lack basic competency.

That’s just not the case here.

 

[mildone]

You didn’t remotely address my question
Hollin Pierce is a dependable multi year starter.
And…. I never said the portal Player in question was better, just paid more.
Pierce is still the starter at left tackle
I also am quite versed on how money can divide a locker room.

I did answer the question. Are you saying everyone in the locker room must always get the same amount of NIL funding or the locker room will become toxic?

 

[zappaa]

I did answer the question. Are you saying everyone in the locker room must always get the same amount of NIL funding or the locker room will become toxic?

Where did I say everyone?
I gave you a very specific example, if you think Tyreem Powell would be perfectly fine with GS bringing in a linebacker who made more money than he’s getting your nuts.

 

[PSAL_Hoops]

Nah. He has demonstrated an ability to make all those throws. He can make any kind of throw.

He is competent. The problem is that he is inconsistent. Fix the inconsistency and do nothing else and he instantly become very good, at least at throwing the ball.

In sports, with someone who is truly incompetent, no amount of improvement can fix it. It’s baked right into the person. They can never become good because they lack basic competency.

That’s just not the case here.

I’m confused. Are you defining “competent” as being physically able to get the ball from point A to B? My 9 year olds could do the mechanics on those short throws but that wouldn’t make them competent. Bunny throws should be completed and well placed 85%+ of the time by any competent QB. Gavin rarely does both of these things which is why we don’t run many screens, bubbles, laterals, etc. He overthrows, underthrows, uses too much zip, any number of issues. Regardless - most FBS QBs are automatic with these and he’s not close.

 

[mildone]

Where did I say everyone?
I gave you a very specific example, if you think Tyreem Powell would be perfectly fine with GS bringing in a linebacker who made more money than he’s getting your nuts.

Well, first of all, I never said anything about the relative levels of NIL pay players receive. I said greater NIL funding will improve our coaching staff's ability to land better players. Which is unarguable.

Do you think Powell or Pierce will object to paying more NIL funds to a potential star QB from the portal (or HS) than they are getting? Because we're talking about QBs in this thread. Not OL or LBs.

But, even with either of those two guys, if you have a chance to land a sure thing better player than them at their positions, and to get it done, you need to arrange for a higher NIL contract, then you do it. Or you balance increased pay for them with what it takes to land the new player. But one way or another, you get it done... IF you have the NIL funding.

Which is why it's unarguable that increased NIL funding makes it possible for the coach to land better players.

 

[zappaa]

Well, first of all, I never said anything about the relative levels of NIL pay players receive. I said greater NIL funding will improve our coaching staff's ability to land better players. Which is unarguable.

Do you think Powell or Pierce will object to paying more NIL funds to a potential star QB from the portal (or HS) than they are getting? Because we're talking about QBs in this thread. Not OL or LBs.

But, even with either of those two guys, if you have a chance to land a sure thing better player than them at their positions, and to get it done, you need to arrange for a higher NIL contract, then you do it. Or you balance increased pay for them with what it takes to land the new player. But one way or another, you get it done... IF you have the NIL funding.

Which is why it's unarguable that increased NIL funding makes it possible for the coach to land better players.

Quick answers, No, I do not think either player would have a problem if they brought in a QB from the portal they thought would make the team better.

Like you I wouldn’t care if a player wasn’t happy if the portal player was the better player than them.

Yes balancing the NIL would be necessary for a like portal player.

 

[mildone]

I’m confused. Are you defining “competent” as being physically able to get the ball from point A to B? My 9 year olds could do the mechanics on those short throws but that wouldn’t make them competent. Bunny throws should be completed and well placed 85%+ of the time by any competent QB. Gavin rarely does both of these things which is why we don’t run many screens, bubbles, laterals, etc. He overthrows, underthrows, uses too much zip, any number of issues. Regardless - most FBS QBs are automatic with these and he’s not close.

Yeah. No evidence of dementia. 😂

No, I'm defining it was fundamentally capable of performing the required tasks for the job. And no, your 9 year olds cannot make all those throws, not with 300 LB linemen, 250 linebackers, and a some roid-raging DBs all trying to throw them through the turf and then shove the football up their poop-chutes.

Again, I'm not here to defend GW or his percentages. I'm simply insisting on accuracy because I'm a little bored and because solving the wrong problem often creates a worse problem.

He is capable of making the throws. He needs to become much more consistent at doing so.

So reaching into the portal to pull out a QB that has an 85% completion rate for bunny throws while throwing lots of INTS or being incapable of gaining yards with his feet or not being able to understand and manage the offense well or being incapable of picking up what the staff is trying to highlight in the film room, is not a great solution.

 

[yesrutgers01]

Yeah. No evidence of dementia. 😂

No, I'm defining it was fundamentally capable of performing the required tasks for the job. And no, your 9 year olds cannot make all those throws, not with 300 LB linemen, 250 linebackers, and a some roid-raging DBs all trying to throw them through the turf and then shove the football up their poop-chutes.

Again, I'm not here to defend GW or his percentages. I'm simply insisting on accuracy because I'm a little bored and because solving the wrong problem often creates a worse problem.

He is capable of making the throws. He needs to become much more consistent at doing so.

So reaching into the portal to pull out a QB that has an 85% completion rate for bunny throws while throwing lots of INTS or being incapable of gaining yards with his feet or not being able to understand and manage the offense well or being incapable of picking up what the staff is trying to highlight in the film room, is not a great solution.

I am not sure why so many keep saying he can't make throws- as you stated- he has made every throw and has even made some NFL level throws. He just need to get better and be more consistent.
I don't know if he will get better or more consistent but he can make every throw.

And the "my kid" comparison is always funny- I remember when I was younger- let's say 30's-40's...And they talk of a weak armed QB and you watch them and wonder how they cant hit a 35 yard pass into the WR bread basket- hell- I could sit there at 5ft9 30-40 years old and throw a football on a line 35 yards that was catchable at least 70% of the time.
Except- as you said- those 300lb monsters running 4.8's DB's running 4.3 and everything else.

Always reminds me of my neighbor bragging his son was going to DBP to be a running back. His kid was 5ft5 140lbs and was very good in pop warner- At one of his pool parties, my oldest was there on a break from the Jaguars...The Dad is bragging up his son to him. So, Kevin tosses a football to the kid and tells him to run past him. Kid looks up as asks if he is serious. Dead serious- he says yes- because this is the size DL you are going to be getting hit by at DBP.
Kid went on to wrestle instead...

 

[rutgersal]

With more and more guys opting to return next year(Lewis just announced today) it is imperative to get the QB situation fixed. I don't care who will be the QB next year I just want someone that can win a game or 2 by throwing the ball for 300+ yards. If that can happen next year will be exciting.

Presently, our offense isn’t this. The WR talent to have 300 yards receiving is on its way, but we don’t know how long it’s going to take for them to acclimate to this level of play. Next year will probably be similar to this year, unless the freshmen step up in a big way. Or guys like Naseim Brantley and Chris Long, who hasn’t done much to date , can contribute significantly. Dremel is Mr. Consistent, so he’ll do his part.

 

[PSAL_Hoops]

You guys must be watching a different player. He does not complete the bunnies accurately ever. It doesn’t matter if he has all the time in the world or if we’re playing a team like Wagner. I can’t think of a single college QB whose performed worse over a sustainable time at completing these types of passes. That’s not competent.

 

[yesrutgers01]

You guys must be watching a different player. He does not complete the bunnies accurately ever. It doesn’t matter if he has all the time in the world or if we’re playing a team like Wagner. I can’t think of a single college QB whose performed worse over a sustainable time at completing these types of passes. That’s not competent.

have you watchd most of our QB's over the last decade- we have been bitching about screen passes the entire time.
Doesnt make up fo GW not making this pass but...we have sucked for a very long time at it

 

[rutgersal]

You guys must be watching a different player. He does not complete the bunnies accurately ever. It doesn’t matter if he has all the time in the world or if we’re playing a team like Wagner. I can’t think of a single college QB whose performed worse over a sustainable time at completing these types of passes. That’s not competent.

but then he makes some back of the endzone ridiculous throws that few in college football can make. Such as the TD pass to Strong in the NW game and the throw to Washington in the MSU game.

 

[PSAL_Hoops]

have you watchd most of our QB's over the last decade- we have been bitching about screen passes the entire time.
Doesnt make up fo GW not making this pass but...we have sucked for a very long time

There’s a difference between not being able to get throws off in time or being forced into an inaccurate throw due to a QB hurry. The difference is we’ve had pretty good pass protection and Gavin still messes up those throws. The point I’m making is I don’t recall seeing any QB (for RU or otherwise) at the collegiate level mess up those types of throws as often as Gavin without being rushed. The fact that the QBs were almost always rushed during the Ash era could well be the reason why.

 

[yesrutgers01]

There’s a difference between not being able to get throws off in time or being forced into an inaccurate throw due to a QB hurry. The difference is we’ve had pretty good pass protection and Gavin still messes up those throws. The point I’m making is I don’t recall seeing any QB (for RU or otherwise) at the collegiate level mess up those types of throws as often as Gavin without being rushed. The fact that the QBs were almost always rushed during the Ash era could well be the reason why.

I have also seen him make those throws under pressure- that is the quandary and why I am afraid he may not make the next step.

 

[mildone]

I am not sure why so many keep saying he can't make throws- as you stated- he has made every throw and has even made some NFL level throws. He just need to get better and be more consistent.
I don't know if he will get better or more consistent but he can make every throw.

And the "my kid" comparison is always funny- I remember when I was younger- let's say 30's-40's...And they talk of a weak armed QB and you watch them and wonder how they cant hit a 35 yard pass into the WR bread basket- hell- I could sit there at 5ft9 30-40 years old and throw a football on a line 35 yards that was catchable at least 70% of the time.
Except- as you said- those 300lb monsters running 4.8's DB's running 4.3 and everything else.

Always reminds me of my neighbor bragging his son was going to DBP to be a running back. His kid was 5ft5 140lbs and was very good in pop warner- At one of his pool parties, my oldest was there on a break from the Jaguars...The Dad is bragging up his son to him. So, Kevin tosses a football to the kid and tells him to run past him. Kid looks up as asks if he is serious. Dead serious- he says yes- because this is the size DL you are going to be getting hit by at DBP.
Kid went on to wrestle instead...

That's a good story and a good lesson Kevin taught the kid.

Lots of sports fans, most of whom have never played and/or coached beyond a youth sports level, if at all, form these grossly oversimplified views of what's taking place on the field or court or whatever. They see an incompletion and it's always the QBs fault, like the other half dozen things that had to go right on the play are irrelevant. They see a play fail and it's always because it's a bad play call, it's never because the other team simply out-executed us on the given play.

I know guys who, in pickup basketball, could probably hit 29/30 college 3 pointers 7 days a week, against competition that never played beyond HS. Stick 'em on a court with D1 college players and all of a sudden, it's like the basket is smaller than the bal; they can't hit the broad side of a barn.

It's entirely possible that GW will never become consistent enough. We have no way of knowing because some players peak early and never reach their predicted potential and other players seem terrible and then suddenly it all comes together for them and they're amazing. Only time can tell.

I hope GW becomes more consistent because if he does, he'll be really good, and we'll be winning more games. Doesn't mean we shouldn't pick up another good QB in the portal if we can; of course we should. But I think the odds of GW becoming more consistent by next season are greater than the odds of us picking up a QB who beats him out for the starting role. Either way, the team and fanbase win. But if it's GW being more consistent, than it's our guy from the start who does good, which should make every fan happy.

 

[mildone]

You guys must be watching a different player. He does not complete the bunnies accurately ever.

That's just not accurate.

 

[yesrutgers01]

They dont get it- we all know under 50% is not good...but man- where this came from last year was huge. Can he make the same incremental improvement? If he can- then we are looking at something special. If we can't we have serviceable.
We have no idea how anyone else would perform. 18/8 TD/Int is something I am not sure any of our other guys will do. If they can- then they get the nod. Pretty simple but I am not going to be a basher even if I want better.

 

[mildone]

I have also seen him make those throws under pressure- that is the quandary and why I am afraid he may not make the next step.

That's true and a good observation. Also a valid concern.

But I still think the odds favor him and the coaching staff figuring it out. Let's hope so because there's huge upside if he does.

 

[mildone]

but I am not going to be a basher even if I want better.

That's how I feel. I'm not about to bash any player. Other people can do what they want. But my idea of being a good fan is to support the players and coaches through the good times and the bad.

If the coaches put in a different QB, I'll support that guy the same way. And if the AD fires a coach and brings in a different coach, then I'm gonna support the new coach the same way, too.

 

[mdk01]

I am not sure why so many keep saying he can't make throws- as you stated- he has made every throw and has even made some NFL level throws. He just need to get better and be more consistent.
I don't know if he will get better or more consistent but he can make every throw.

And the "my kid" comparison is always funny- I remember when I was younger- let's say 30's-40's...And they talk of a weak armed QB and you watch them and wonder how they cant hit a 35 yard pass into the WR bread basket- hell- I could sit there at 5ft9 30-40 years old and throw a football on a line 35 yards that was catchable at least 70% of the time.
Except- as you said- those 300lb monsters running 4.8's DB's running 4.3 and everything else.

Always reminds me of my neighbor bragging his son was going to DBP to be a running back. His kid was 5ft5 140lbs and was very good in pop warner- At one of his pool parties, my oldest was there on a break from the Jaguars...The Dad is bragging up his son to him. So, Kevin tosses a football to the kid and tells him to run past him. Kid looks up as asks if he is serious. Dead serious- he says yes- because this is the size DL you are going to be getting hit by at DBP.
Kid went on to wrestle instead...

Funny, long time ago someone made an obvious description of the process. Kids grow up at various rates, but beginning about the HS JV level the final separation begins. At each subsequent level there are kids who are talented athletes, perhaps stars in youth leagues, but not big enough to compete at the next level. The are equally kids with the size, perhaps dominant, but just don't have the athleticism to compete at the next level. Go through the process 3 or 4 times and you have a pro.

 

[RU#1fan]

"Kirk Ciarocca says it takes three years for a QB to master his offense." Really??! Three years to learn and master a playbook consisting of 6 plays?

Kirk just buying time for his paycheck.

 

[Shelby65]

Kirk just buying time for his paycheck.

The term actually is ‘milking’.

 

[RuSnp]

They dont get it- we all know under 50% is not good...but man- where this came from last year was huge. Can he make the same incremental improvement? If he can- then we are looking at something special. If we can't we have serviceable.
We have no idea how anyone else would perform. 18/8 TD/Int is something I am not sure any of our other guys will do. If they can- then they get the nod. Pretty simple but I am not going to be a basher even if I want better.

You see this is where I have the issue. He was a 45% passer two years ago. 48% this year. I don't think 'incremental' growth is enough. He's got to take a leap. And I hope he does. But let's say he has similar growth and is at 51% next year. Wimsatt is dangerous as a runner so that obviously helps but I'm looking at the stats right now and in all of D1 there are maybe 12 qbs at 51% or low and they are basically all backups.

 

[yesrutgers01]

You see this is where I have the issue. He was a 45% passer two years ago. 48% this year. I don't think 'incremental' growth is enough. He's got to take a leap. And I hope he does. But let's say he has similar growth and is at 51% next year. Wimsatt is dangerous as a runner so that obviously helps but I'm looking at the stats right now and in all of D1 there are maybe 12 qbs at 51% or low and they are basically all backups.

Let's just stop- You did not see a HUGE difference from last year to this year? Forget just stats- you didn't see it...

And I hate to keep repeating this as a disclaimer- He had a HUGE jump from last year to this year- but I did not see a continued improvement- but I( do see a very high ceiling. I just dont know if he will ever get there.

But to even think there was not a huge improvement from one year to the next- that is not right

 

[RuSnp]

Let's just stop- You did not see a HUGE difference from last year to this year? Forget just stats- you didn't see it...

And I hate to keep repeating this as a disclaimer- He had a HUGE jump from last year to this year- but I did not see a continued improvement- but I( do see a very high ceiling. I just dont know if he will ever get there.

But to even think there was not a huge improvement from one year to the next- that is not right

Yes I did see improvement. He is getting better. The question is is it enough. Can we win in this league with a qb completing 50%? I don't think so.

 

[ashokan]

To me, Gavin is not developed physically yet.
That's known to happen to tall and (especially) lanky players.
Even in mesh with RB he just often looks awkward.
This sort of thing is not unusual

BE PATIENT WITH TALL YOUNG ATHLETES

"It is well known that for an athlete to have better chances to succeed at the collegiate/pro level,
they must be tall. Better said, the taller the better. However, it is pretty common to see at young
ages, when you have a tall athlete (or many tall athletes) in a team, that that kid is not as
coordinated, as agile, as skilled or as athletic as that other kid who is not that tall. That shorter
kid, at young ages will excel better than the tall ones. But, if adults (parents and coaches) and the
(tall) athlete are patient and keep working hard, that story will change soon in the future.

Movement sciences discuss motor coordination development, skill development, body awareness
development and many other related areas based on the biological growth and development.
What many of us forget or simply ignore is that humans do not grow/develop in the same way, at
the same speed. If you do some research you will notice that height is determined by your DNA,
your genetics, and there is not much you can do to change that. People with a DNA that
determines they will be tall, will be tall. Short people will be short people. Period. Science has
already shown that tall people take longer to develop their “tool kit”: motor coordination (gross
and fine), body awareness, skills, etc. Here are the reasons.."

https://cdn1.sportngin.com/attachments/document/c344-1899378/BE_PATIENT_WITH_TALL_YOUNG_ATHLETES.pdf

 

[kupuna133]

but then he makes some back of the endzone ridiculous throws that few in college football can make. Such as the TD pass to Strong in the NW game and the throw to Washington in the MSU game.

I think GW can make most throws. We have seen him make incredible NFL type throws and then follow it up with a ball in the dirt. You bring up the TD pass to Strong an incredible throw agreed. My biggest issue is GW doesn’t trust his eyes and continues to make the difficult throw rather than the easy throw. If he trusted his eyes he would make the easy throw versus having to make the “ridiculous” throws.

Kirk hasn’t made it easy for GW with his play designs. Many times forcing everyone on offense to have to make perfect execution for the play to be successful. Particularly his red zone play calling. I hope GW makes a leap. But it will be more about improving his eyes than his arm.

 

[rutgersal]

I think GW can make most throws. We have seen him make incredible NFL type throws and then follow it up with a ball in the dirt. You bring up the TD pass to Strong an incredible throw agreed. My biggest issue is GW doesn’t trust his eyes and continues to make the difficult throw rather than the easy throw. If he trusted his eyes he would make the easy throw versus having to make the “ridiculous” throws.

Kirk hasn’t made it easy for GW with his play designs. Many times forcing everyone on offense to have to make perfect execution for the play to be successful. Particularly his red zone play calling. I hope GW makes a leap. But it will be more about improving his eyes than his arm.

I can only hope that with more experience and extensive film work in the offseason, he will learn to better recognize easy opportunities. In particular on the Washington TD throw, he had the running back wide open, uncovered.

 

[rutgersal]

Yes I did see improvement. He is getting better. The question is is it enough. Can we win in this league with a qb completing 50%? I don't think so.

We can win the games we’re supposed to win with the quarterback completing 50%.
And that is good enough for now. Heisman Winner Eric Crouch had a third year pass completion % of 48.1%.

People like you continue to judge Wimsatt according to dropback passer metrics. But Wimsatt is not a dropback passer. He is a quarterback who rushes extensively. That’s why we can get away with a 48% passer. Because he brings 488 rushing yards to the table, a little less that 48.8% of Monangai’s total.

 

[kupuna133]

I can only hope that with more experience and extensive film work in the offseason, he will learn to better recognize easy opportunities. In particular on the Washington TD throw, he had the running back wide open, uncovered.

Yep I pointed that specific thing out in multiple threads.

We had the same conversation last year regarding film work and being able to watch film properly. If he doesn’t show serious improvement with his eyes and ability to see the field in the spring or early next season it will be beyond time to move on.

 

[PSAL_Hoops]

That's just not accurate.

The tape of his throws from this season is posted. Maybe the Benjamin pass in the Temple game was well placed? You can count on one hand the good ones in the short game though. Meanwhile - there were dozens of short attempts the fell incomplete and/or were tipped putting them at risk of INT. And many others that were completed but no post catch yardage because the receiver had to fall over to make the catch. On a lateral, that’s just as bad as an completion. He just can’t seem to take the zip off and still make a firm pass to someone only 5-10 feet away from him.

 

[PSAL_Hoops]

Let's just stop- You did not see a HUGE difference from last year to this year? Forget just stats- you didn't see it...

And I hate to keep repeating this as a disclaimer- He had a HUGE jump from last year to this year- but I did not see a continued improvement- but I( do see a very high ceiling. I just dont know if he will ever get there.

But to even think there was not a huge improvement from one year to the next- that is not right

There was improvement, yes. But make no mistake the starting point was nowhere near good enough to even be a back up on a decent power conference team (2022).

The improvements were most notable in the following areas:

1) development of run game
2) less INT per snap. Better programmed to throw the ball away
3) A few more great throws for big yards than last year (not nearly as many as some seem to be claiming though)

I have a really hard time accepting anyone pointing to notable “improvement” in his accuracy. The difference (quite literally) was a better game this season against Wagner. If he was 12 of 19 against them last year instead of 4 of 12 he would’ve been 48% on the 2022 season too.

There was no observable growth that I saw in ability to option read and/or make post snap adjustments based on the D. This is the biggest concern in my view. Until he develops this ability, he’s less valuable to us on a team with a decent OL than far less skilled players. Right now - he’s either a) running the play called by the coaches pre snap, b) throwing the ball away, or c) occasionally scrambling for a run. If that’s all he can do - having him at QB is much more limiting than having someone who has less arm strength but can read what the D gives them. Maybe that wouldn’t be the case with an OL that stink, but that’s no longer our reality. We need someone who can see the field to take the next step. Can Gavin take that step? Maybe - but I don’t see how his growth to date gives reason to bank on it that he will.

When you look at all this comprehensively - I’m just not sure how you double down on him being the guy no matter what with only frosh on the roster as plan Bs. It seems crazy to me.

 

[ashokan]

Wimsatt had good game vs Penn St.

The oddball thing about Wimsatt is that his highest rating was as a dual threat QB and every TV analyst kept saying Witt should be running more.. I guess have to wait for the "mastery" season

Because the OL could block for more than a nanosecond, the field would stretch after dropping back, and Wtt would have a lot of open field in front of him. He often could have run for 10-15 and slid.

He did have 488 yds rushing and 9 TDs (1 in 7 games straight) so that was a big jump. Mongo had 7 TDs so Wtt was leading scorer rushing.

After a rough game last week, Rutgers quarterback Gavin Wimsatt made a big stride in one key area

Rutgers football quarterback Gavin Wimsatt turned around a disturbing trend on Saturday at Penn State.

rutgerswire.usatoday.com

 

[PSAL_Hoops]

Wimsatt had good game vs Penn St.

The oddball thing about Wimsatt is that his highest rating was as a dual threat QB and every TV analyst kept saying Witt should be running more.. I guess have to wait for the "mastery" season

Because the OL could block for more than a nanosecond, the field would stretch after dropping back, and Wtt would have a lot of open field in front of him. He often could have run for 10-15 and slid.

He did have 488 yds rushing and 9 TDs (1 in 7 games straight) so that was a big jump. Mongo had 7 TDs so Wtt was leading scorer rushing.

After a rough game last week, Rutgers quarterback Gavin Wimsatt made a big stride in one key area

Rutgers football quarterback Gavin Wimsatt turned around a disturbing trend on Saturday at Penn State.

rutgerswire.usatoday.com

He improved as a runner, yes. But is he a stand out runner where being as inconsistent as he is with passing and not being able to adjust mid play can be overlooked? I mean - before answering that question - is VTech’s Drones a big time NIL stud? I don’t think so. I think he was just a pleasant surprise playing behind less talent than RU has at OL. Compare his running numbers to Wimsatt’s as a redshirt frosh. Then look at his completion numbers. It’s hard to be excited about Wimsatt’s development comparatively.

 

[rutgersal]

He improved as a runner, yes. But is he a stand out runner where being as inconsistent as he is with passing and not being able to adjust mid play can be overlooked? I mean - before answering that question - is VTech’s Drones a big time NIL stud? I don’t think so. I think he was just a pleasant surprise playing behind less talent than RU has at OL. Compare his running numbers to Wimsatt’s as a redshirt frosh. Then look at his completion numbers. It’s hard to be excited about Wimsatt’s development comparatively.

Yes, he is. His running was instrumental in beating Indiana, VT, and MSU. 4 yards a carry is standout. With another year in he weight room, They should give him 200 Carries next year. If he can get to 1K yards rushing and 2K yards passing, he will be a Heisman contender.

Drones had an outstanding season. But let’s not pretend he was facing the same caliber of competition. Facing OSU, PSU, Wisconsin, and Michigan is a different animal, then facing Syracuse, Boston College, Pitt, and Wake Forest. If Wimsatt played in the ACC, he’d have much better numbers. Against VT, he had 11 rushes for 87 yards.

 

[PSAL_Hoops]

Yes, he is. His running was instrumental in beating Indiana, VT, and MSU. 4 yards a carry is standout. With another year in he weight room, They should give him 200 Carries next year. If he can get to 1K yards rushing and 2K yards passing, he will be a Heisman contender.

Drones had an outstanding season. But let’s not pretend he was facing the same caliber of competition. Facing OSU, PSU, Wisconsin, and Michigan is a different animal, then facing Syracuse, Boston College, Pitt, and Wake Forest. If Wimsatt played in the ACC, he’d have much better numbers. Against VT, he had 11 rushes for 87 yards.

Come on man. Over 1,000 yards? You realize that to do that he’d have to run for over 80 yards per game on average, right? He only rushed for over 50 yards twice this year. One of those games happened to be VTech (on 11 carries) but that doesn’t necessarily mean he’d have more rush yards by playing VTech’s schedule. He only had 39 combined yards on 15 carries vs Wagner and Temple. Every game is different.

Also, if we’re planning to have him carry that much then we dang well better bring in a back up because it will be a miracle if he doesn’t get injured.