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BillyC80 said:

The OSU debacle was doubly bad because the refs actually reviewed the play. I assume you can only review for one thing? They chose to focus solely on whether he got the shot off in time.

Seems like you should be able to review the entire catch-and-shoot sequence, to see if it was even a legal shot.

Watch the replay and you’ll see Cliff immediately run up to the ref while pointing to the sideline. He must’ve been telling the ref that the shooter jumped in from out of bounds. That being the case, why didn’t the refs review for that too?

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OSU was truly insane as they missed multiple violations on the same play. First one was OSU player stepped on the line (think it was Thornton maybe) while dribbling in the backcourt just before passing the ball. Then he passed the ball to a player, Tanner Holden, who had been standing out of bounds and was then the first player to touch the ball after Thornton passed the ball. This was a violation. Two violations on same play, first Thornton foot on the line and second Holden, the player who was essentially illegal to be the next player to touch the ball after Thornton gave it up. That one was the Double RU Screw.

no one really expected wins vs Bama or Texas A&M so cannot consider them brutal losses...sure we played close and had our chances but those were house money games at the time. Losing to kennesaw and Princeton just brutal and the Iowa was the most deflating loss.

His pawn to King was a thing of beauty

As long as there's somewhere for Notre Dame to place its other sports, ND will be independent in football
If for any reason the ACC and ND end their deal, look for the Big East to take the Irish's other sports. while the Big 12 fills up the games that once were part of the ACC's deal with Notre Dame .

BYU vs. ND might become a regular Big 12/ND match-up because it might have a high TV ratings
that's good fot the Vitamin Conference and the imitation Irish.

Plum Street said:

Yes they are far apart . Pike would have made 3 ncaa tournaments (counting 2020) and had us on the wrong side of the bubble 1 other time . Waters never had us on the bubble on Selection Sunday.

Waters also took over a program that was stronger at the time . Rutgers made the NIT In 1999 and 2000 . Waters was hired in 2001. Pike took over after Eddie Jordan .

Both have stunk In the conference tournament.

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Rutgers was on the bubble2x...they were not going but they were certainly in the discussion.

superfan01 said:

Magnus Carlson is the GOAT and way better than both.

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Carlson - there are 3 players with legit claim for being the chess GOAT:

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RAC93 said:

We had a clear back court violation when Acuff reached midcourt and threw it back over the line.

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I have not looked for a replay so I could be wrong - but I thought Acuff still had one foot in the backcourt when he passed the ball. If so, even though the ball bounced across the line, that does not count as establishing a front court position and so there was no violation.

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RAC93 said:

@bac2therac i’ll take the bait you tossed out last night as I am curious, you mentioned that if Rutgers had beaten Michigan that they would have entered the at large bubble picture (obviously with a lot more work to do). For my curiosity sake, where would you have had them as far as how many teams would have been ahead of them at that point? Not sure how far down your bubble list goes and how many teams, assuming they would have been at the bottom of it.

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at 15-14 they would have 4 wins vs the field...only 1 high level at Michigan. The other wins of note, UCLA, Illinois and at Nebraska

5-11 in Q1, 3-1 in Q2 for 8-12 and 9-14 in Q3 which is obviously bad with 2 Q3 losses. Maybe the NET might be a spot or two higher with a win...72/73

at 15-14 I would probably have them about 13th team out still behind the likes of Wake, Villanova, San Francisco, TCU who are my 9-12th teams out.

Certainly longshot status...would get another high level Q1 win at Purdue and a 5th win vs the field and then a Q3 win at Minny

17-14...NET probably in 62-65 range. 6-11 in Q1, 3-1 in Q2 for an acceptable 9-12 in Q1/2...the 11-14 in Q3 is problematic..thats where the bad losses to Princeton and Kennesaw hold everything back. One loss would have been alright....18-13 right smack on the cut line either way and maybe getting the nod because of Dylan injuries.

17-14 probably gets them somewhere around last 4/6 out but then compare them to possible other 18-13/17-14s like Baylor, Texas, Georgia, Indiana, Ohio State

RUPete said:

I thought it was a rapper gone too soon.

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Me too

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BOCA93 said:

Mays came across as an ass in postgame crediting RU’s first half shooting to 2 lucky bank shots.

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It may come as a surprise to some fans but other league head coaches have little respect for Rutgers sport teams.Respect comes by defeating league rivals on a regular basis.Michigan has defeated Rutgers twice by a total of five points.Rutgers should have won both games but failed because getting the offense and defense both playing at a high level hasn't happened all season.

RU848789 said:

I posted last night that he was a bit late on the closeout with the double team on Wolf, as he wasn't close enough to Wolf to make a difference there anyway, so he might as well have been on Burnett or at least closer, although I don't think he could've prevented the pass...but he could've made it a lot harder shot. Having said that, they guy hit a shot from 5 feet beyond the arc, which is a low percentage shot, so Harper's slowness to close will barely be remembered, IMO. We had a dozen other opportunities to have this game be out of reach at the end.

I'm still much more annoyed with the refs for the two terrible cylinder calls and especially failing to call the travel with ~6 seconds left - we win that game 99% of the time if they call that.

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Agree with this assessment.

red_sky said:

Negligent in roster assembly?
Failure to bring in a big man?

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Cursing on the radio and violating FCC rules !!

Yes they are far apart . Pike would have made 3 ncaa tournaments (counting 2020) and had us on the wrong side of the bubble 1 other time . Waters never had us on the bubble on Selection Sunday.

Waters also took over a program that was stronger at the time . Rutgers made the NIT In 1999 and 2000 . Waters was hired in 2001. Pike took over after Eddie Jordan .

Both have stunk In the conference tournament.

Good lord.

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