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THE OFFICIAL 2024-2025 NET RANKINGS THREAD

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PSAL_Hoops said:
I mean, I guess it depends on how you define good or bad. If your ranking only mid-majors, sure, Princeton is obviously one of the better ones. Figure out of 250 or so of them, Princeton is in the top 20% or so. So in that regard, yes, your right.

But your taking it too far by generalizing them to be a “good” team. A typical major conference team on the right side of the bubble would beat them 8 out of 10 times on a neutral floor with maybe a few favorable match up outlier exceptions. But in general decent major conference teams are better than Princeton. It’s not an awful loss like Kennesaw, but it’s certainly not good.
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It is not a loss that hurts considerably except in the all important W/ L record. If we did not lose to Kennesaw we are likely 20 points higher in the NET. Losing to Princeton in the last second on a neutral floor is not moving our Net more than 5 spots. Kennesaw is dragging us down , along with terrible defensive efficiency numbers. We have to break thru in Quad 1 games to make a jump into the 60’s
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THE OFFICIAL 2024-2025 NET RANKINGS THREAD

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goru7 said:
Try listening to some pods and listening to coaches press conferences or when they are gathered together and offer their unsolicited opinions. Princeton is thought of highly. The IVys have sent a number of players to the Power 4 after their 4 years are up or earlier and most have had great possitive impacts on their new teams. Danny Wolf from Yale is one of those at Michigan now that I heard the commentator last night say he has worked his way into the first or second round of the NBA draft. I think Xavier Lee of Princeton has a chance for a second round pick or impact free agent. You are claiming Ivy plays shit ball and I disagree wholeheartedly.
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I mean, I guess it depends on how you define good or bad. If your ranking only mid-majors, sure, Princeton is obviously one of the better ones. Figure out of 250 or so of them, Princeton is in the top 20% or so. So in that regard, yes, your right.

But your taking it too far by generalizing them to be a “good” team. A typical major conference team on the right side of the bubble would beat them 8 out of 10 times on a neutral floor with maybe a few favorable match up outlier exceptions. But in general decent major conference teams are better than this year’s Princeton team. It’s not an awful loss like Kennesaw, but it’s certainly not good.
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Post Mortem by Lion - Delayed, RU vs MSU

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seansherm said:
Don't disagree on Martini. Grant was all over the place. He blocked a shot in like the first minute. 0fer shooting in the first half. One rebound late in the second under 2 to play, when he also made two of his three shots.
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His athleticism could have stayed with MSU players better than Martini. Guarantee he is not going 0-4 on wide open threes in the second half. You cannot look at a final Boxscore and ignore key points and key subs at key parts of the game. That seems to me what you are doing analyzing Grant.
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Post Mortem by Lion - Delayed, RU vs MSU

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goru7 said:
Grant was not worthless. He blocked 1-2 shots , got some rebounds and his 3 point shooting came around just a little hitting 1 early second half and one after he was bright back in. Martini did what again? Right , a truly worthless performance.
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Don't disagree on Martini. Grant was all over the place. He blocked a shot in like the first minute. 0fer shooting in the first half. One rebound late in the second under 2 to play, when he also made two of his three shots.
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My Current Take on Steve Pikiell

NewJerseyHawk
RRRRUUUU said:
Adapt or die, The Steve Pikiell story. We’ll find out how it ends soon enough.
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He's already adapted by taking a large class of freshman in 2024 (3 that should stick with a junior in Derkack) and another 4 in 2024, with a likely 5th freshman that could be added this spring.

With 2026 recruiting really picking up speed in the next 3 months, another 2 to 3 freshman like Aiden Derkack among others, will restock the roster with 11 to 12 kids spread out across 3 recruiting classss

Sommerville
Dortch
Grant

Ware
Mark
Nwuli
Powers
TBD 5th frosh

2026 guard
2026 guard/wing

If JMike Davis sticks after this season, we would have 2 spots....if any of the 2024 kids transfer, we would have the opportunity to backfill for the short term or with a multi-year transfer.

The team needs a scoring wing and some progress from Grant, Dortch and Sommerville and some reasonable development from Jordan Derkack the final 11 to 13 games this year, so we have some depth and bench scoring next year.
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THE OFFICIAL 2024-2025 NET RANKINGS THREAD

RUChoppin
goru7 said:
Try listening to some pods and listening to coaches press conferences or when they are gathered together and offer their unsolicited opinions. Princeton is thought of highly. The IVys have sent a number of players to the Power 4 after their 4 years are up or earlier and most have had great possitive impacts on their new teams. Danny Wolf from Yale is one of those at Michigan now that I heard the commentator last night say he has worked his way into the first or second round of the NBA draft. I think Xavier Lee of Princeton has a chance for a second round pick or impact free agent. You are claiming Ivy plays shit ball and I disagree wholeheartedly.
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Wolf is a rare case of an ivy league player who left before his four years were up, grabbing at that NIL brass ring. I'm curious if more will follow.

Ivy league players generally tend to be fundamentally sound, and (other than Wolf) are 5th year seniors with a ton of experience. Of course, we get Martini, though.

Still, the Ivy League usually has 2-3 good teams, and a bunch of also-rans. And their top teams keep tripping over the bottom ones, which usually keeps them out of the upper echelon of algorithm driven rankings and keeps them perennially as a one-bid league.

Part of that is because of their rules around scholarships, admission, etc. which shrinks their available player pool.
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OT: Stock and Investment Talk

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rutgersdave said:
So many ways to make money. Sorry for the people that can’t accumulate enough to invest.
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I know it's tough, and a lot of folks are living paycheck to paycheck. But that was a $1300. investment that now pays a $6.50 annual dividend (half the purchase price) and is worth roughly $15,000. So around that time I bought a car. Forgo the Beemer and loan payments and bought a Saturn SL2 which I had for 17 years and 205,000 miles. Price difference was a lot more than $1300.
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Poor NIL is the biggest reason for our disappointing season

Fat Koko
rutgersal said:
If we were too proud to negotiate, we didn’t have the money. That’s what you call spin. We simply cannot compete with FSU because their boosters want to win.

This is the only fanbase that thinks you can win without money, which is why we’ve never won it all. Show me a successful program and I’ll show you a group of boosters that make it happen. Look at UConn, who poached our best player last year. UConn’s success should be ours, but our boosters are not as supportive as theirs. That’s the biggest reason they succeed and we don’t. Dan Hurley, a former assistant for Kevin Bannon, choosing the UConn job, when he could have had ours, tells you all you need to know.

The reason we have a significant amount of misses is that we have to take bigger risks due to lack of resources. It is much, much harder to find players who fall through the cracks thanks to technology.

The “I want to win but I don’t want to donate” attitude is not tenable if we want to build a successful program. It’s time to pony up or shut up.
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Rutgers has 23 major league sports teams within 250 miles of campus, 28 including MLS. Florida State has zero.

Lots of competition for the sports fan dollars around here.

Moreover, Rutgers donors prefer to give to academics. That is why Rutgers endowment value is more than 2x that of Florida State.

Holloway talked up the number of Rutgers donors in recent message. "We reached and surpassed a $250 million fundraising goal because of a surge in new givers: more than 7,500 of our 34,000 donors in fiscal year 2024 were first-time donors."

For example, I used to give to the gymnastics team. Now, I give to an academic scholarship. Do you blame me?
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