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NewJerseyHawk said:

They played the bulk of the minutes 2 years ago, the only other player who played reasonable minutes beyond Spencer and Mulcahy was Simpson. Unless you count Jalen Miller.

The defense was very high level 2 years ago, but we also finished games with point totals at 45 or in the 50s, hoping to hold teams under 60 or 65 points. Then the fans complained we didn't have enough shooters, when in reality, we just didn't have complete guards who can do everything (Geo Baker, Jacob Young prototypes).

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I don't even disagree with your main point - we do need better, more complete guards. You just have a habit of torturing data until it shows what you want, which undermines your argument.

fluoxetine said:

(1) threes that are made by players who don’t play a lot of minutes are still worth 3 points - excluding Hayes’ threes for example makes no sense

(2) threes that are made by players not listed as “G” are still worth three points - excluding Bailey for example is insane

Rutgers is not good from three but the data here is tortured in order to make it look worse than it is

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The numbers are not better anyway you look at RUs 5th guard to Iowa, Maryland or Wisconsin.....and most schools play 3 guards while MSU and UCLA have a more traditional SF and PF....

Zak57 said:

As they're going with the 6 man rotation I think Peterson is safe.

1. Senga
2. Manaea
3. Peterson
4. Montas
5. Holmes
6. Blackburn/Canning/Megill

Losers of #6 go to pen as long man in that Trevor Williams role. The other I'm not so sure. If it's Megill he might be better in a setup role.

I'm also not sure if Blackburn will be fully healthy to begin the season unless I missed something on that.

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I don't think they will be in the six man rotation all season. I think it will be more of a swingman role, depending on off days. Maybe get 15-20 starts for the season.

I don't think you need both a swingman and a long man. I guess we'll see.

There are many things in life that I do not comprehend. One of them is why starting pitchers, who are pitching fewer innings per start than ever before, need an extra day of rest.

As they're going with the 6 man rotation I think Peterson is safe.

1. Senga
2. Manaea
3. Peterson
4. Montas
5. Holmes
6. Blackburn/Canning/Megill

Losers of #6 go to pen as long man in that Trevor Williams role. The other I'm not so sure. If it's Megill he might be better in a setup role.

I'm also not sure if Blackburn will be fully healthy to begin the season unless I missed something on that.

NewJerseyHawk said:

The Iowa Sandfort brothers have over 100 made 3s to Bailey's 40 or so 3s and the 30 combined by Martini and Grant.....if I include the wings, would it make you feel better???

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Why not just count the # of made threes per game period?

I think your broader point is good.

RUChoppin said:

Especially when Mag and McConnell are then mentioned as not contributing enough threes. Neither of those guys were primary guards for us.

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They played the bulk of the minutes 2 years ago, the only other player who played reasonable minutes beyond Spencer and Mulcahy was Simpson. Unless you count Jalen Miller.

The defense was very high level 2 years ago, but we also finished games with point totals at 45 or in the 50s, hoping to hold teams under 60 or 65 points. Then the fans complained we didn't have enough shooters, when in reality, we just didn't have complete guards who can do everything (Geo Baker, Jacob Young prototypes).

yesrutgers01 said:

In regard to Vick doing his time etc…

There are pedifiles who have done their time and they are not allowed to teach our children. No matter how great a student they were themselves and qualified for the job.
What he did to defenseless dogs is not just a heat of the moment type of thing. He bred dogs to die for entertainment. That mindset is not something that just gets better. And even if it does, the fact is, he did it. He just should not be a leader of young men.

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I think this analogy is strained. Would I hire Vick for a veterinary practice? Nope. But as a football coach? I think there is enough separation from the nature of his crime.

fluoxetine said:

(1) threes that are made by players who don’t play a lot of minutes are still worth 3 points - excluding Hayes’ threes for example makes no sense

(2) threes that are made by players not listed as “G” are still worth three points - excluding Bailey for example is insane

Rutgers is not good from three but the data here is tortured in order to make it look worse than it is

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The Iowa Sandfort brothers have over 100 made 3s to Bailey's 40 or so 3s and the 30 combined by Martini and Grant.....if I include the wings, would it make you feel better???

I excluded the wings from Illinois like Riley and others but the bottom line is, MOST threes come from the guards on the rosters.

In Nick's response above......it comes down to recruiting the right guards and I feel pretty confident that Lino Mark and Kaden Powers are better from 3 than JWill and Derkack by a lot....but Powers has to be able to play reasonable defense at this level on the ball, against the better guards in the B1G.

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Hard to say what our record will look like until we know the final pieces. I want an upgrade at LT and some insurance at LB in case Toure isn’t ready before I go with the over.

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Rutgers NJ said:

Peterson to me already proved he's the real deal. He pitched many great games. I consider him a #2 at worse.

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Maybe. But on the other hand, maybe he is pitching for his spot on the Opening Day roster. He and Megill are still optionable. Their competition for rotation spots (Blackburn and Canning) are not.

When you are a major leaguer who is still optionable, life isn't always fair.

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Cliffs = no B1G level guards, poor 3 point shooting & horrific defense = sub 500 record and missing the tourney, which, with two top 5 draft pics, is entirely unacceptable on every measureable level

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Mike from MD said:

Roll

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Call

Dpgru said:

Why can’t you hear a pteradactyl in the bathroom?

Because the p is silent. On

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What does MATH stand for

Mental Abuse To Humans