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Here is the reality on "running an offense ".....

Why not just count the # of made threes per game period?

I think your broader point is good.
Because it's not really helpful if the guards can't defend and Harper missed parts of 5 B1G games.

My comment is asking what offense or plays can be run over 30 to 35 games, if 3 of the primary guards play an average of almost 20 minutes per game. Is there an offense where the guards are not high volume 3 point shooters or playmakers??

We have 3 guards who can play very good defense on the ball in JWill, JMike and Derkack and they have a combined 112 3 point attempts in 25 games...

I have 31 made 3s in 25 games from 3 of the 5 primary guards, all who have to play because there has to be defense player as well.......what offense or system should be run for this??.....thats an average of just over 1 made 3 per game. Other backcourt are averaging 3 to 4 per game from the same position.

Rotation going forward - play for next year

I could argue that the returning team although less skilled, play Pike style ball. They’ll get better at D. Somerville is the one I’d question most and can see leaving. Offense is the problem. We desperately need 2 senior starting scoring guards to transfer in.
Who's going to design an offense that will maximize the talents of these high scoring transfers?
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OT: Your stories of a brush with famous people.

Story of a brush with famous people. List yours if you'd like. My neighbor owned a restuarant in Manhattan called The Madison and he got tickets to The Diamond Club at Shea Stadium and he asked if I'd like to go and help with his then 3 young kids. You had to take a private elevator up and just before the door closed Bob Murphy the voice of my baseball youth got on. He was so nice. It was amazing to hear his voice in person. My other brush with famous people was at Resorts Casino in AC, back when it was the only Casino with a license. The Honeymooners were filming a reunion show early 70's and Jackie Gleason was playing Baccarat behind a velvet rope and any were standing around watching him. We decided to take the elevator back up to our room and when it opened Art Carney was standing there. He must have seen the look on my face, pressed the button and went back up, lol. Just remembered after reading a post below. My sons, wife and I met The Rock before he was a big name, my sons were into the wrestling and believe it or not he was promoting an event at The Mid-State Mall in East Brunswick. Very friendly and signed a couple of items for them, for free. Talked with Roy Campanella as a 9 year old All Star for Bloomfield, NJ, where, I can't remember. I remember him being so soft spoken and not bitter by the accident that crippled him. A very humble classy man.
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Here is the reality on "running an offense ".....

They played the bulk of the minutes 2 years ago, the only other player who played reasonable minutes beyond Spencer and Mulcahy was Simpson. Unless you count Jalen Miller.

The defense was very high level 2 years ago, but we also finished games with point totals at 45 or in the 50s, hoping to hold teams under 60 or 65 points. Then the fans complained we didn't have enough shooters, when in reality, we just didn't have complete guards who can do everything (Geo Baker, Jacob Young prototypes).

I don't even disagree with your main point - we do need better, more complete guards. You just have a habit of torturing data until it shows what you want, which undermines your argument.

Here is the reality on "running an offense ".....

(1) threes that are made by players who don’t play a lot of minutes are still worth 3 points - excluding Hayes’ threes for example makes no sense

(2) threes that are made by players not listed as “G” are still worth three points - excluding Bailey for example is insane

Rutgers is not good from three but the data here is tortured in order to make it look worse than it is
The numbers are not better anyway you look at RUs 5th guard to Iowa, Maryland or Wisconsin.....and most schools play 3 guards while MSU and UCLA have a more traditional SF and PF....

OT: NY Mets spring training thread

As they're going with the 6 man rotation I think Peterson is safe.

1. Senga
2. Manaea
3. Peterson
4. Montas
5. Holmes
6. Blackburn/Canning/Megill

Losers of #6 go to pen as long man in that Trevor Williams role. The other I'm not so sure. If it's Megill he might be better in a setup role.

I'm also not sure if Blackburn will be fully healthy to begin the season unless I missed something on that.
I don't think they will be in the six man rotation all season. I think it will be more of a swingman role, depending on off days. Maybe get 15-20 starts for the season.

I don't think you need both a swingman and a long man. I guess we'll see.

There are many things in life that I do not comprehend. One of them is why starting pitchers, who are pitching fewer innings per start than ever before, need an extra day of rest.
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OT: NY Mets spring training thread

As they're going with the 6 man rotation I think Peterson is safe.

1. Senga
2. Manaea
3. Peterson
4. Montas
5. Holmes
6. Blackburn/Canning/Megill

Losers of #6 go to pen as long man in that Trevor Williams role. The other I'm not so sure. If it's Megill he might be better in a setup role.

I'm also not sure if Blackburn will be fully healthy to begin the season unless I missed something on that.

Here is the reality on "running an offense ".....

Especially when Mag and McConnell are then mentioned as not contributing enough threes. Neither of those guys were primary guards for us.
They played the bulk of the minutes 2 years ago, the only other player who played reasonable minutes beyond Spencer and Mulcahy was Simpson. Unless you count Jalen Miller.

The defense was very high level 2 years ago, but we also finished games with point totals at 45 or in the 50s, hoping to hold teams under 60 or 65 points. Then the fans complained we didn't have enough shooters, when in reality, we just didn't have complete guards who can do everything (Geo Baker, Jacob Young prototypes).

Rutgers football adds FCS team with famous head coach to future schedule

In regard to Vick doing his time etc…

There are pedifiles who have done their time and they are not allowed to teach our children. No matter how great a student they were themselves and qualified for the job.
What he did to defenseless dogs is not just a heat of the moment type of thing. He bred dogs to die for entertainment. That mindset is not something that just gets better. And even if it does, the fact is, he did it. He just should not be a leader of young men.
I think this analogy is strained. Would I hire Vick for a veterinary practice? Nope. But as a football coach? I think there is enough separation from the nature of his crime.

Here is the reality on "running an offense ".....

(1) threes that are made by players who don’t play a lot of minutes are still worth 3 points - excluding Hayes’ threes for example makes no sense

(2) threes that are made by players not listed as “G” are still worth three points - excluding Bailey for example is insane

Rutgers is not good from three but the data here is tortured in order to make it look worse than it is
The Iowa Sandfort brothers have over 100 made 3s to Bailey's 40 or so 3s and the 30 combined by Martini and Grant.....if I include the wings, would it make you feel better???

I excluded the wings from Illinois like Riley and others but the bottom line is, MOST threes come from the guards on the rosters.

In Nick's response above......it comes down to recruiting the right guards and I feel pretty confident that Lino Mark and Kaden Powers are better from 3 than JWill and Derkack by a lot....but Powers has to be able to play reasonable defense at this level on the ball, against the better guards in the B1G.
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