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Big Ten power rankings have new look with college football spring practice kicking off

thanks for the link , but when pay site articles are posted I usually just move on and wait for it to be talked about rather then googling to find it for free.
Tango posts so many articles without comment , I just ignore them , unless I see conversations in that article thread he started.
I try to put something that's said in the article so people can see what it's about before they click on link .

" Rutgers launches match canpaign....."

#2 can't be an option after we begged and pleaded and shoehorned our way into the B10... if we make it known we are not invested in athletics at the university level and fan level we will be asked out of the league and will be worse off than if we never entered it at all

As for schools that have turned their programs around quickly via NIL era (in addition to BYU and St Johns)

BASKETBALL
Missouri
Texas Tech
Louisville
Maryland
Memphis
Mississipi State


FOOTBALL
Arizona St
Indiana
SMU
BYU again
Illinois
Miami
Missouri again
Colorado

I am sure there are others just perusing the top 25 in both sports at the end of football and currently in hoops

The other schools that are at that level have maintained there success with the assistance of NIL and as some mentioned schools that were traditionally football powerhouses like Alabama, Auburn, Clemson etc etc have so much going for them funding wise that they can support both programs

The fanbase has an unfortunate mix of people that want to be the next St Johns or Indiana and fans who hope itll just work out but more likely will lead us being Boston College, Seton Hall, Minnesota, etc.
One year fixes don't guarantee anything

We had $3 million in 2 players here and failed

" Rutgers launches match canpaign....."

Rutgers athletics gets more support from the state and university than any other B1G university.

In 2023, this amount totaled $26.1 million. It is made up of:

1) $6.2 million of state appropriations
2) $13.5 million of student fees
3) $6.4 million of Rutgers University money transferred to the athletic department.

In 2024, Rutgers athletics scored $28.6 million of this support, a 10% increase.

One wonders what the next New Jersey governor, Rutgers president, and Rutgers athletic director will think of this level of subsidy, especially when most B1G peers operate with little to none of it.

What Rutgers athletics lacks is ticket sales revenue and donations. This is the biggest reason for the financial performance gap between Rutgers and its B1G peers.

How do TKR posters propose we get ticket sales and donations in line with the B1G median? That would require a doubling in ticket sales and quintupling in donations.
This is the answer...or actually the question to answer.
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" Rutgers launches match canpaign....."

#2 can't be an option after we begged and pleaded and shoehorned our way into the B10... if we make it known we are not invested in athletics at the university level and fan level we will be asked out of the league and will be worse off than if we never entered it at all

As for schools that have turned their programs around quickly via NIL era (in addition to BYU and St Johns)

BASKETBALL
Missouri
Texas Tech
Louisville
Maryland
Memphis
Mississipi State


FOOTBALL
Arizona St
Indiana
SMU
BYU again
Illinois
Miami
Missouri again
Colorado

I am sure there are others just perusing the top 25 in both sports at the end of football and currently in hoops

The other schools that are at that level have maintained there success with the assistance of NIL and as some mentioned schools that were traditionally football powerhouses like Alabama, Auburn, Clemson etc etc have so much going for them funding wise that they can support both programs

The fanbase has an unfortunate mix of people that want to be the next St Johns or Indiana and fans who hope itll just work out but more likely will lead us being Boston College, Seton Hall, Minnesota, etc.
We all will agree there is a price point to compete in basketball. If you aren't willing to approach it you are going to fail 90%+ of the time. If you aren't going to try then it makes no sense to continue to lose as much money as we are and be an embarassment on the court/field.

Who wins in 2025 in the gubernatorial race and what the campaign topics are could determine the path of RU sports. I can tell you right now if Elon Musk was in charge he would tell the RU president a dime is not to be lost on sports. It would be short sighted....

I know the $ coming in improves in the future, but if numbers I see are right we lost $70,000,000 in the athletic department. This is the department that oversees games. To add $70,000,000 becomes $90,000,000 when we pay players to keep up with other schools.

OT: 30 years and 30,000+ posts. Question for the board on OUR history here.

The Rutgers message boards started on a site called Exit 109 in the mid 90"s. I used to access it on dialup with Prodigy as my ISP. Some famous posters include Mike from West Orange who also used to appear on a radio show usually bashing Rutgers sports, and Big Dog (a former RU football player) who then went on to start his own site. Rivals went by another name and was run by Keith something or other. Not sure if Exit 109 morphed into another name I believe before morphing into 247. Brian Dohn ran that site and we would have a weekly recruiting online chat (typed, not audio). Finally, the main moderators of the original Rivals left for 247 some years ago.
Take a look at the first few posts in this thread, which contain links to the history of this site. Mike Fasano ran Exit 109 (with BigDog as a major contributor), which eventually merged with Keith Burkert's Rutgersfan.com in 1998 (he's the guy that wrote the history) and they eventually found a home with Rivals (twice, lol) and are still with Rivals today, obviously. Some more info on other boards, below, mostly from memory, so it might not be 100% accurate.

A few years after Rutgersfan.com hooked up with Rivals in 1998, Mike and BigDog started the Scout board in mid-2001, as far as I can tell, as that's the oldest post on the 247 site I could find; Scout eventually became 247 Sports, probably around 2010, when 247 became a big player in the field. I posted sparingly on Scout back in the day.

And then in April 2018, John O and most of the staff from this site left Rivals for 247 (rebranded ScarletNation), taking over for Sam Hellman who had taken over from BigDog years earlier, but then left 247 in 2018. When that happened, Richie became site publisher for this site. Some Rivals/Rutgersfan posters moved over to 247, some became posters on both and quite a few went over, saw the crappy board technology, and came back here. I post on both boards, but more here, although the board technology over there is far better than it was in 2018.

Also, around the same time as Scout was formed (2001-2002, if I recall correctly), some posters from Rutgersfan broke away and formed the Grease Truck forum, which is a small, but slightly twisted RU sports community, lol - I posted there for several years, but haven't posted there in many years now.

This shot chart is a total indictment of steve pikiells lack of an offense

Coaches also mold their roster around the offense they prefer.

It's not a coincidence that are shot distribution looks the same year after year.
That's not a "roster strength" issue but a roster construction.

The roster strength will never include shooting 3s if you don't recruit multiple 3pt shooters a year.
Yes, roster construction is a different issue. Hayes and Martini can shoot 3's, they're just not well rounded enough in terms of defense and creating their own shot to consistently play meaningful minutes in the BIG. Acuff was the main target for that role but his summer injury apparently hobbled him most of the season. Either we haven't been able to properly evaluate those players out of HS and the portal, we don't have the NIL to pay up, or some combination of both.
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" Rutgers launches match canpaign....."

So we should forego the TV revenue and balance the books, with 18K fans in the stadium and play Delaware and Monmouth OR grow the revenue to a point that exceeds the expenses??

I would rather you try to argue why the Offensive Coordinator is suddenly making 1.5M to 2M per year, when he's not more valuable than the QB we need to sell 50K season tickets.

I think the revenue to players is only an issue because the players are not viewed as valuable by the consumer. Somehow there's an assumption that RU can put any center on the basketball court to defend the Russian import from Michigan or the Swedish Purdue center who is 7'3" and sitting out this year because of injury.

I can show you what RU looks like without revenue sharing and if you don't support sports....If you have the RU game on your laptop or TV at 7PM tonight vs Purdue and watch that game......OR turn to FS1 at 7PM tonight at the same time and watch the environment of the Prudential Center with Seton Hall hosting Creighton.....in your world, we will look like Seton Hall playing Creighton, in your world of caring about what residents think......most state residents have never stepped foot in Middlesex County or Rutgers campus. That's a separate topic for another day......

This is the reality of 2025 College sports and it's no longer hidden with bags of cash being delivered to the uncle of a Duke player near the bleachers at Cameron Indoor Stadium. It has ALWAYS happened that way, just because it's now being shown to the public, doesn't mean is has not been reality for decades. This concept is not "new"........

I hate to be that blunt, but it's only a problem because the athletes are showing up and stating they have rights and schools have a right to pay or not pay them. If you want to win and be relevant, you take the TV revenue and pay the players. I am not paying money to watch Monmouth play Rider or Princeton playing Yale.
The arguement is not with me. We 100% agree. Status quo is failing miserably....it is with the 95% of the population who doesn't care about RU sports. You and I know what it takes to be successful. It is about a politician being elected. It will be very difficult to have a conversation about lowering taxes without talking about cutting expenses. I think Greg Schiano is the highest paid NJ employee. He isn't keeping people safe. He isn't making people smarter. He is coaching a game.

I fully expect the next AD to try and find the right price point and monetize the prime basketball seats. I am expecting my seats to go from $2,100 to $3,100. There will be a risk of going to high and lose a ton of fans, especially in a down year. The risk isn't 2025-26...it is 2006-2027.
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OT: Stock and Investment Talk

If you think you can predict Trump.....go for it. LOL! Just probably a good idea to buy a little as things progress. Lutnick is already doing damage control on the tariffs with Mexico and Canada. He's forecasting the upcoming pivot.
As per my early post:

Lutnick: Trump may announce tariff compromise with Canada, Mexico on Wednesday
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