rufan4ever said:

Those days are gone. There is no more "developing" a program. It's all about how well a coach does recruiting in the transfer portal.
That's why Jay Wright, Tony Bennett, and Laranaga all called it quits.
This new era is not what Pike was cut out for.

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Mr Magoo said:

Seriously wonder if we win another game. If Harper isn’t hurt or sick, then he quit..and if he is hurt or sick, why is he playing.? He’s not helping. Just standing around.

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RUChoppin said:

Pike's "way" is of a prior era - he needs to change a lot about his way of doing things to succeed in the current era. He's had success in the past finding the value guys that are better than their HS ratings and coaching them up over years... but that style is rapidly going extinct.

Those value guys you bring in will be looking at overvalued NIL promises from other schools pretty quickly and will likely cost you more to keep developing than it would to bring in guys who already cut their teeth elsewhere. Every year you need to rebuild a team from scratch unless you have overflowing coffers to retain all the guys you want to retain, which we most certainly do not.

The "pounding nails" culture of defense, where new guys slot into gaps between veterans steeped in the culture and system.... that's not going to work anymore. Coaches in this era need concepts that can be quickly understood and internalized by coming-in-cold-off-the-street players that don't even really know each other's names on the first day of camp. You can't rely on any year-over-year carry over - and the guys you do have will quickly look at greener pastures if you make their lives too uncomfortable.

Pike needs to do a lot of introspection this offseasons.

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mikemarc1 said:

Who cares?? Pikiell is a coach that develops and doesnt need star recruits. His best seasons heave been with under the radar guys, that’s what he will need to get back to

It’s ridiculous you claimed he “gutted our program”.

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Greene Rice FIG said:

Crazy

112th defensively

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RUChoppin said:

Pike's "way" is of a prior era - he needs to change a lot about his way of doing things to succeed in the current era. He's had success in the past finding the value guys that are better than their HS ratings and coaching them up over years... but that style is rapidly going extinct.

Those value guys you bring in will be looking at overvalued NIL promises from other schools pretty quickly and will likely cost you more to keep developing than it would to bring in guys who already cut their teeth elsewhere. Every year you need to rebuild a team from scratch unless you have overflowing coffers to retain all the guys you want to retain, which we most certainly do not.

The "pounding nails" culture of defense, where new guys slot into gaps between veterans steeped in the culture and system.... that's not going to work anymore. Coaches in this era need concepts that can be quickly understood and internalized by coming-in-cold-off-the-street players that don't even really know each other's names on the first day of camp. You can't rely on any year-over-year carry over - and the guys you do have will quickly look at greener pastures if you make their lives too uncomfortable.

Pike needs to do a lot of introspection this offseasons.

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MCKnight2004 said:

I’ll destroy Davis- the last 2 games at home he’s been the primary reason for our slow starts on offense. Killed us going 0-3 and 1 turnover in 4 minutes vs Wisconsin

Tonight again turnovers early, and played 8 straight minutes, in fact, inexplicably he was the last starter taken out, even after being abused by Smith, all while not scoring or having an assist

Mind boggling that the staff thinks he brings any starter minute value. Davis wouldn’t Even be rostered on most big ten teams

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Scangg said:

It's harder but you just need to recruit players that fit your system and culture every year in the portal

Pike went away from the Rutgers culture and now we have no team identity or team strength

What is this team's identity?

What does this team do well?

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bac2therac said:

Heide was a 3 but point taken, I was going off of my conversation with a Purdue fan sitting next to me saying Painter isnt getting top recruits....Loyer was rated like 85th. Point is that compared to other top programs they are not relying on the big names....and even a few you listed there have been disappointments such as Morten and Furst . Edey was ranked 255th in the country

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PhillyRU said:

The funny thing is these last two games have an average defensive rating of 93.7, which when extrapolated out over an entire season would rank 15th nationally (I do think todays mark was more about Purdue missing open 3s than anything Rutgers did). The offense just conveniently fell off a cliff in that stretch, particularly cruel

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koleszar said:

Classless ND fans

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Ash_Hole said:

My guess: Kirk probably was offered HC (or top tier OC) jobs and he turned them down on the condition RU would extend.

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mikemarc1 said:

Cause he didn’t gut the program. Where Rutgers is now as a program is light years ahead of where they were when took over. If the program is at that spot again..sure, that’s when I’ll say it’s gutted.

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