2024 In Season Tourney - $2 mil NIL

[bac2therac]

IDK wikipedia says $2 million per team

it says 2 million .....ill need a link and google doesnt seem to come up with anything

its footnote links something from 2011 which would seem way outdated anyhow..

Paradise Island, The Bahamas - Eight teams will participate in the inaugural “ Battle 4 Atlantis” on November 23-27, 2011 during the richest Division I Men’s pre-season college basketball tournament. The event, which will award over $2 million to participating teams annually, will be hosted at the famed Atlantis Resort on Paradise Island, Bahamas.
Current 2011 champions University of Connecticut will battle against Harvard University, Florida State University, University of Utah, University of Massachusetts, Central Florida, College of Charleston and University of North Carolina – Asheville, in the 4,000-seat arena. The half-million dollar temporary stadium boasts state-of-the-art regulation facilities at the epicenter of the world’s largest open-air marine habitat complete with lavish guest accommodations, restaurants, bars, spa, lounges, waterslides and the largest casino in the Bahamas.


“If you thought Battle at Atlantis was spectacular, just wait until you see what we have planned for Battle 4 Atlantis. Not only will it be the richest pre-season college basketball tournament, but it is taking place at one of the most beautiful destinations in the world,” says George Markantonis, President & Managing Director, Kerzner International Bahamas. “We are thrilled to host some of the leading teams in college basketball including the 2011 national champions! This event is something our guests and college basketball fans around the nation will love. There simply isn’t a better way to celebrate a Thanksgiving holiday.”

 

[NickRU714]

Does it matter if it’s $2m total or per team?

It appears the point is that teams get compensated for participating in games, correct?

Or does level of compensation dictate if it’s the downfall of college athletics?
Similar to athletes getting paid with a scholarship is acceptable but increasing that payment is all of a sudden a problem.

 

[RAC93]

NIL $ aside, isn’t this tournament potentially what a lot of us fans crave? A strong non conference schedule! A feast week tourney! Imagine playing Virginia, Kansas, then Duke in 3/4 straight days!? Sign me up.

Sign me up as well, NIL is here to stay and we need to improve our schedule. We’ve heard this for years, well this is a way to help upgrade the schedule with some neutral court good non-conference teams.

 

[G- RUnit]

When all is said and done our SOS was 15th in the country.

 

[DennisHajekRC84]

When all is said and done our SOS was 15th in the country.

Huh? What year are you taking about..kenpom adj? (Which I have no idea what all these adjustments are)

 

[bac2therac]

When all is said and done our SOS was 15th in the country.

Not non conference..around 300 last year

 

[motorb54]

How does this help traditional recruiting for the next year?
Announcing we will be in the tournament would help get transfers in the portal.
But that doesn't help get the next years freshmen as no guarantee we will be in the same or similar tournie in the future.

 

[fatsam98]

How does this help traditional recruiting for the next year?
Announcing we will be in the tournament would help get transfers in the portal.
But that doesn't help get the next years freshmen as no guarantee we will be in the same or similar tournie in the future.

Our upcoming natty should help with that

 

[G- RUnit]

Not non conference..around 300 last year

Who cares when you play the amount of league games we do?

And SHU is in! Princeton likely. Wake and MSU close!

Damn good schedule

 

[Scangg]

hypocritical how since this is just one tournament with 8 schools so do the 358 other ones plus all the nil deals

You have been begging us to play in a holiday tournament. You want disclosure of NIL

Now you get both and you aren't happy

 

[Jerseylegends]

You have been begging us to play in a holiday tournament. You want disclosure of NIL

Now you get both and you aren't happy

Lol some people just want everyone to know that they don't like what's going on. If everyone else is happy and enjoying something they are against, they have to come add their negative perspective to try and get us all to think the same way. A different form of trolling, he's not trying to be an a$$, he's just pissed and wants everyone to be pissed with him and boycott college basketball until nil is cancelled or whatever. Lol idk what to tell him...might as well just stop watching now if it's that serious..

 

[PSAL_Hoops]

You have been begging us to play in a holiday tournament. You want disclosure of NIL

Now you get both and you aren't happy

Have to agree here BAC. Im not sure why this direction of NIL stands out to you as worse than any other. As others have said - if this pilot goes well, these types of tournaments could become a trend but that probably just means that donors are involved in planning these events out.

If anything, this is much better than a donor paying a kid to participate in a BS advertisement deal for their company that has no connection whatsoever to the school. Here - at least the payment relates to the sport. Yes, these early games would trend in the direction of bowl game hoopla but heck - people watch the bowl games right? Early season basketball is a lost soul. Maybe this can add some flavor to it. All kids participating will likely paid and, probably most intriguing, is the potential for hybrid brand attribution. Unlike the BS ads, a portion of the “NIL” is the brand of the school itself since the team uniforms, coach, logo etc. are a part of these events - not only the kids personal brands. Payment can’t only go to the kids. This is why I see potential for an avenue that serves to fund non-revenue sports. Let’s see. I just think your jumping the gun here is all.

 

[cubuffsdoug]

Why are some of you talking from both sides of your mouth? One minute it's we don't want another Stone hill on the schedule next year. Next, the same people complain about the setup of this tournament and Rutgers shouldn't be in it. It goes against their principles for the what the players should be as student-athletes. Damn if you do and damn if you don't.

 

[Greene Rice FIG]

I am a Pirates fan, but growing up in the area i rooted for the Yankees too. I rooted for them as they win WS in 1990s and early 2000s. Then the huge free agent signings came. Didnt like that the playing field was unequal and it was over the top. When Giambi was signed I said that was enough. Now i hate the Yankees.

everyone has their own way of thinking. In most cases nothing wrong with it. Bac and I really enjoyed college basketball and we are sad it is going down this path. It is fine for some not to be bothered by it.

 

[NewJerseyHawk]

Some fans just want the charade of Zion Williamson picking Duke but when RU joins the party, some fans have a moral compass??

I will say it again, there are certain fans conditioned to mediocrity.....they don't believe RU should be doing whatever it takes to compete, just like other schools have done for decades, by paying players.

We have some fans complaining about RU not recruiting well enough, but an event like this that actually helps recruiting, is somehow a problem??

If there are fans that just don't want athletes to get paid, I didn't see that complaining when Dartmouth filed a motion to become a union. If the Ivy League kids can get paid, but RU can't have NIL or a NIL generator of revenue??

 

[RacPac12]

I am a Pirates fan, but growing up in the area i rooted for the Yankees too. I rooted for them as they win WS in 1990s and early 2000s. Then the huge free agent signings came. Didnt like that the playing field was unequal and it was over the top. When Giambi was signed I said that was enough. Now i hate the Yankees.

everyone has their own way of thinking. In most cases nothing wrong with it. Bac and I really enjoyed college basketball and we are sad it is going down this path. It is fine for some not to be bothered by it.

Understand you not liking the current direction. Just curious 5 years from now if there is a power 5 or 6 tournament where the winners get $5m in NIL and players are not going to class. Rutgers is in the final 4, you watching?

 

[Greene Rice FIG]

Understand you not liking the current direction. Just curious 5 years from now if there is a power 5 or 6 tournament where the winners get $5m in NIL and players are not going to class. Rutgers is in the final 4, you watching?

maybe, maybe not. Once I turn something off normally it stays off.

I dont watch NBA. Outside of a few quarters of RU FB games I watched ZERO college FB this year.

Stopping watching college football was purely a Rutgers losing thing where I gave up tickets and just stopped cold turkey.

 

[TC4THREE]

Agreed…the deconstruction and destruction of college athletics is a remarkable event…like a slow motion train wreck…sure it will remain, but nothing I’ll likely support or even casually follow. Perhaps it’s a function of aging, that you generally careless about sports?🤔💭 eventually if what makes college athletics unique undergoes a coat-hanger style abortion, many schools will find themselves with a lot fewer fans…supported by a very wealthy few who essentially make it their own.

Of course Congress could get involved and then it would be truly FUBAR 🤭

I think an interesting case could be made regarding public universities funding/subsidizing minor league sports....which is what this becomes once you start paying the players a salary.

Also, how long before we see someone sue for unlimited eligibility or we stop requiring enrollment to play? I think we'll see both of those things happen in the next 20 years.

 

[Greene Rice FIG]

So we are going to pay $1,000,000 for the team and $1,000,000 if they win.

What determines how that is allocated?

Are some teams going to divide it equal while others will give it out based on minutes or points?

 

[NickRU714]

I have to say.
The "but what about the other 350 schools" is possibly the funniest thing ever posted here.

Rutgers and the Big Ten are literally killing other conferences (PAC-12 says Hello) just to make more and more money than everyone else.
Something everyone literally cheered about.
Not one person said "Big Ten shouldn't be getting $1b a year while other conferences get significantly less. It's not fair."
Not one single post.

But suddenly 8 schools are going to get a little extra money to go directly to players and it's clutching pearls over "equality for all teams!".

 

[Greene Rice FIG]

I have to say.
The "but what about the other 350 schools" is possibly the funniest thing ever posted here.

Rutgers and the Big Ten are literally killing other conferences (PAC-12 says Hello) just to make more and more money than everyone else.
Something everyone literally cheered about.
Not one person said "Big Ten shouldn't be getting $1b a year while other conferences get significantly less. It's not fair."
Not one single post.

But suddenly 8 schools are going to get a little extra money to go directly to players and it's clutching pearls over "equality for all teams!".

I have made it known I think it is VERY wrong for conferences to expand. It has made a mockery out of calling this college sports. Student athletes should not have a take airplanes and miss classes just for $. This is not the 1st time I am saying this.

 

[NickRU714]

I have made it known I think it is VERY wrong for conferences to expand. It has made a mockery out of calling this college sports. Student athletes should not have a take airplanes and miss classes just for $. This is not the 1st time I am saying this.

Luka had his 6th CONSECUTIVE 30pt triple double last night!
39-10-10
I’ll post a highlight in the NBA thread.

He’s only 6 months older than Caleb McConnell.

 

[bac2therac]

I have to say.
The "but what about the other 350 schools" is possibly the funniest thing ever posted here.

Rutgers and the Big Ten are literally killing other conferences (PAC-12 says Hello) just to make more and more money than everyone else.
Something everyone literally cheered about.
Not one person said "Big Ten shouldn't be getting $1b a year while other conferences get significantly less. It's not fair."
Not one single post.

But suddenly 8 schools are going to get a little extra money to go directly to players and it's clutching pearls over "equality for all teams!".

If Rutgers wasnt picked peeps would be singing a different tune

 

[S_Janowski]

If Rutgers wasnt picked peeps would be singing a different tune

But we were picked.

Lots of other schools have benefited greatly from being in a better conference than us all of these years, time for us to join the party.

Enjoy it.

 

[Greene Rice FIG]

Luka had his 6th CONSECUTIVE 30pt triple double last night!
39-10-10
I’ll post a highlight in the NBA thread.

He’s only 6 months older than Caleb McConnell.

 

[365Poster24Seven]

Thats great for you and others but for me won't be interested if things keep heading this way...and thats fine everyone has their own interests and directions. I will adapt by focusing less on RU hoops and I will find something else to replace my time with

And yes for next year this will be a bountiful opportunity for the program for exposure and scheduling. But i don't have to agree with it because the ramifications of pay for play are pretty huge

Wow that would be life changing for you right? If you found something else to replace your time from what you currently do that would be a total life transformation wouldn’t it?

 

[RAC93]

So we are going to pay $1,000,000 for the team and $1,000,000 if they win.

What determines how that is allocated?

Are some teams going to divide it equal while others will give it out based on minutes or points?

Per On3:

Every team in the tournament is guaranteed at least $1 million in NIL dollars for participating. The money will either be funneled to participating school’s NIL collective, boosters or a school’s NIL entity. Programs will distribute the cash at their own will. The only caveat is dollars must go to the current team. ... The winning team will be eligible to earn another $1 million.

Per FrontOfficeSports, each team will also receive free travel, lodging, and meals during the event.


Funds are allocated how each school wants to distribute the funds. Funds must go to current team, can’t bank them away for the future.

 

[RUsojo]

Money matters to players more than ncaa tournament

This is ****ed up and i wont be a fan a few years from now

You said that a year ago and I offered to buy your tickets if they were 100 level. Yet you’re still here ;)

 

[nukem]

Understand you not liking the current direction. Just curious 5 years from now if there is a power 5 or 6 tournament where the winners get $5m in NIL and players are not going to class. Rutgers is in the final 4, you watching?

Of course they're going to be watching. They are all blowhards that like to complain about everything. We have 2 million $$ recruits coming in next year yet they're still going to be watching. FIG will be complaining that Dylan Harper doesn't play defense. And there will be write ups on this board about that night's game by the same posters complaining.

 

[bac2therac]

Lol this program needs more than paying players in Vegas

 

[365Poster24Seven]

Lol this program needs more than paying players in Vegas

You need RUTGERS a ton more than Rutgers needs you. How would you cope without your twice a week 10 paragraph regurgitation? Will Jerry Palms job finally be safe?

 

[ruinac]

Do last holdouts now believe that Pike was FOS when he stated multiple times that he wants his players home for Thanksgiving?

 

[fatsam98]

Do last holdouts now believe that Pike was FOS when he stated multiple times that he wants his players home for Thanksgiving?

Wait what do you mean? You're usually in the know on these things, is it happening?

 

[RUsojo]

Do last holdouts now believe that Pike was FOS when he stated multiple times that he wants his players home for Thanksgiving?

According to ru72 it was not pike getting this done looks like he had no choice but to go along with it

But I agree the coverage on tournaments/vacation in general has been a big bag of nothing

 

[ruinac]

Wait what do you mean? You're usually in the know on these things, is it happening?

All I know is that there’s truth to the rumors. Which means Pike didn’t close the door this time. That isn’t to say that anything is a done deal - as far as I’ve heard.

 

[S_Janowski]

According to ru72 it was not pike getting this done looks like he had no choice but to go along with it

But I agree the coverage on tournaments/vacation in general has been a big bag of nothing

Stopped reading at “according to RU72”….

 

[S_Janowski]

Do last holdouts now believe that Pike was FOS when he stated multiple times that he wants his players home for Thanksgiving?

I think a smart man from the beginning would have realized there was some coach speak involved when he said this

 

[Greene Rice FIG]

I think a smart man from the beginning would have realized there was some coach speak involved when he said this

There is something to it

 

[LeapinLou]

You need RUTGERS a ton more than Rutgers needs you. How would you cope without your twice a week 10 paragraph regurgitation? Will Jerry Palms job finally be safe?

This is mean spirited and crosses the line. The vast majority of us like the content he brings to the board. If you want to debate, step up your game. Otherwise act your age.

Note - If you're 15 years old or younger, feel free to ignore this input.