4/17 Men’s Lacrosse RPI Updated

[Golfer2019]

Getting interesting...Here is the latest RPI as of Easter Sunday night....3 weeks from selection Sunday

01 - MD
02 - Princeton
03 - Georgetown
04 - Penn
05 - Rutgers
06 - Yale
07 - UVA
08 - Cornell
09 - Brown
10 - Ohio State
11 - North Carolina
12 - Duke
13 - Denver
14 - BU
15 - Harvard
16 - St Joes
17 - ND
18 - Richmond
19 - Utah
20 - Army

Observations...

RPI isn’t perfect...Gotta take into account head to head and it gets that wrong sometimes...some of this doesn’t make sense...especially Army

Ohio State still remains an issue for UNC and ND in my opinion. Who’s getting in from the ACC....I think they get 3 but this data doesn’t support

5 Ivies in the top 10 RPI as of now

We just gotta keep winning...Beat PSU at home, and we get to 12-2 (4-1). Puts us in a position of strength as most teams hit the post season conf tourneys

The team will be ready for Saturday

Buckle Up

 

[nolanpa]

If you gotta have 2 losses, let them be to #s 1 and 2

 

[RUtrumpet92]

It certainly looks like: beat PSU, win in semifinals, and we could be hosting in the first weekend regardless of what happens in the B1G title against Maryland (assuming it would be them).

 

[bigmatt718]

Hopefully we end up with the 2 seed, 3 seed or the 6 seed. I don't want to see Maryland in the NCAA Tourney before the NC Game which is what would happen if we end up in the 4/5 slot. Princeton still has to play Cornell so they could lose one more and Georgetown could always choke in the BE Tourney.

 

[bsh75]

In the ACC, Carolina, Duke and ND have a round-robin left on their schedules so they will be adding 3 additional losses between them and at least 2 will have additional losses. It is possible that their 3rd place team will have 6 losses.
In the Ivy, Princeton still plays Harvard and Cornell. Cornell has to play Brown. Penn has no ranked teams left. Yale has to play Harvard. They have a tourney that only has 4 teams. It is possible that Penn currently 4th in RPI won't qualify. All of their remaining games are against unranked teams.
Based on the RPI the at larges bid would be 2 Big Ten, 4 Ivy and 2 ACC.

 

[Caliknight]

It certainly looks like: beat PSU, win in semifinals, and we could be hosting in the first weekend regardless of what happens in the B1G title against Maryland (assuming it would be them).

We win Sat and make it to the finals of the tournament we are guaranteed a home game.

 

[mdk01]

Hopefully we end up with the 2 seed, 3 seed or the 6 seed. I don't want to see Maryland in the NCAA Tourney before the NC Game which is what would happen if we end up in the 4/5 slot. Princeton still has to play Cornell so they could lose one more and Georgetown could always choke in the BE Tourney.

Georgetown could pull the old Denver move, choke in the BE Tourney, let another team get the AQ and get an at-large. Ironically Denver, which has done that at least twice, would be the likely beneficiary.

The committee will do everything possible to get the ACC a 3rd at large and NOT have 5 Ivy teams (including the AQ) in the field. I wouldn't rule out keeping the Ivies at 3 and adding an at large from another conference. And if Ohio St. is 3rd in the Big 10, the league has the 2nd at large locked in because of their head-to-head with the ACC.

 

[herdof3]

Georgetown could pull the old Denver move, choke in the BE Tourney, let another team get the AQ and get an at-large. Ironically Denver, which has done that at least twice, would be the likely beneficiary.

The committee will do everything possible to get the ACC a 3rd at large and NOT have 5 Ivy teams (including the AQ) in the field. I wouldn't rule out keeping the Ivies at 3 and adding an at large from another conference. And if Ohio St. is 3rd in the Big 10, the league has the 2nd at large locked in because of their head-to-head with the ACC.

That is One of the reasons I hate the AQs in lacrosse. In hoops if you have an upset a bubble team (probably ranked around 40) misses out. In lacrosse a top 10 team can be a victim

 

[mdk01]

That is One of the reasons I hate the AQs in lacrosse. In hoops if you have an upset a bubble team (probably ranked around 40) misses out. In lacrosse a top 10 team can be a victim

And the comeback from the NCAA would be that it aides the growth of the sport and point to the SoCon (Jacksonville, Richmond & High Point) and ASUN (Utah, Air Force, though AF has been around forever). What's problematic with that argument is that the NEC and MAAC will never get to that level.

 

[knight82]

And the comeback from the NCAA would be that it aides the growth of the sport and point to the SoCon (Jacksonville, Richmond & High Point) and ASUN (Utah, Air Force, though AF has been around forever). What's problematic with that argument is that the NEC and MAAC will never get to that level.

Why not have a "first four" like basketball does? Expand to 20 teams. The four worst conference champions and the last four at larges play on Wednesday with the winners advancing to play on Sunday.

 

[mdk01]

Why not have a "first four" like basketball does? Expand to 20 teams. The four worst conference champions and the last four at larges play on Wednesday with the winners advancing to play on Sunday.

A possibility. But the NCAA has generally been resistant to increasing the field but for the "expansion of the game AQs". The field was held at 8 WAY past when it could have been a larger competitive field - 10 in 1986 and 12 in 1987. It could have gone to 12 by 1975 by my definition, which is would the typical (no AQ) 12 seed give the typical 5 seed a competitive game.

 

[Roy_Faulker]

US lacrosse should take some leadership here though...their focus in recent years has been pushing diversity in the game. There have been some high profile incidents involving minority players/teams and the game needs to move away from being a white suburban sport.

Having HCBUs add teams is huge...they need to be supported and access to the NCAA - even if they are part of a play-in type scenario will work fine. Sponsors would be on board for sure.

All that to say I think the NCAA needs to expand the field including AQs.

 

[mdk01]

US lacrosse should take some leadership here though...their focus in recent years has been pushing diversity in the game. There have been some high profile incidents involving minority players/teams and the game needs to move away from being a white suburban sport.

Having HCBUs add teams is huge...they need to be supported and access to the NCAA - even if they are part of a play-in type scenario will work fine. Sponsors would be on board for sure.

All that to say I think the NCAA needs to expand the field including AQs.

Hampton would get destroyed. That's not progress. Back in the 70s Morgan St had a team the was decent but not playoff caliber. Baltimore had HS lax teams in the primarily minority schools so it was by far the best recruiting area for HCBUs. The best move would be to develop youth programs as feeders first. Some Wall St lax alums have funded youth lacrosse in Harlem for a couple decades, but no HSs have programs. Needs to be expanded to other parts of the country.

 

[WhichReligionIsRight]

I'm not a fan of the RPI, but the measure improves as the sample size increases.

 

[Roy_Faulker]

Hampton would get destroyed. That's not progress. Back in the 70s Morgan St had a team the was decent but not playoff caliber. Baltimore had HS lax teams in the primarily minority schools so it was by far the best recruiting area for HCBUs. The best move would be to develop youth programs as feeders first. Some Wall St lax alums have funded youth lacrosse in Harlem for a couple decades, but no HSs have programs. Needs to be expanded to other parts of the country.

Espn+ is a wonderful thing and watching games we wouldn’t otherwise see. Will take time for sure for the HCBUs to get up to par - if ever. But I think there needs to be a pathway.