And now PSU is in the drivers seat to win the East...
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OSU is going to wipe the floor with UM, especially at home.
LOL .. PSU will be at least #8 now, will get another spot when OSU/UM play, and then possibly again if they have to go through Wisconsin ... I don't think I could stomach State P in the playoff
How did they go from 25 to 12 when the playoff rankings came out is the real sham ..
How did they go from 25 to 12 when the playoff rankings came out is the real sham ..
You're being modest and cautious, I understand that completely but you guys are in the best position out of three and there is no doubting that.
They'll let in a 1 loss Louisville, 1 loss Washington, or a 2 loss A&M before they let in Penn State over Michigan AND Ohio State. Good for them if they make it to the title game but their playoff hopes were over the moment they lost to Michigan. 2nd loss is the nail in the coffin.
I don't agree with that.
We are now starting two 3s OTs. Our O-Line was looking great a few weeks ago and now it is in shambles. We are starting a 6-7, 330# at OT and he is a guard mauler. He isn't a pass protection guy.
We came into today with both our starting OTs out. We left the game with both their replacements out.
Lots of TOs today by IU and a gritty win by our kids but our OL is an absolute mess right now and it isn't expected to get anyone back next week...and possibly for the rest of the season. Not a good recipe IMO.
First of all, aTm has three losses. Second of all, if PSU wins out and makes the B1G championship game and wins they will make the playoffs.
Is it amateur hour here?
Under "normal" circumstances you'd be right but I don't think they'd have a choice unless they decided to shut the B10 out completely. If OSU beats Michigan in Columbus and PSU wins out they'll be in a tie with PSU holding the tie breaker after beating OSU. Then if PSU wins a likely matchup with Wisconsin they'd win the B10. Unless you keep the B10 out completely, PSU would make the playoffs.
Oh, well then that eliminates them along with you. 1 loss teams go in over 2 losses. That Pitt loss really stings right now.
That darn Coach Hype peddling his snake oil. Gotta keep his underachieving staff in State College for as long as possible.
Lol.
Lol.
Tiebreakers don't matter to the committee. They see a record and a body of work. So they'd see a 1 loss team in the winner of UM-OSU with one fluke away loss vs a champ with a loss to another team in contention for a spot and a middling ACC team. My bet is that that's go with the team with the one away loss.
Well we've never really had a scenario with a 2 loss conference champ having a chance to get in because usually most of the conference champs are undefeated or have 1 loss. PSU would have 2 losses in the scenario I outlined above but would also likely have wins against 2 top 10 teams in OSU and Wisconsin. I don't know that a 1 loss team who isn't a conference champ will get in front of PSU, especially if that 1 loss team didn't make their conference title game.
Good God will the regulars on here who have a clue rope this guy in?
PSU wins out (including the B1G Championship) they would be in. You think they put a one loss W. Michigan in over the B1G Champion?
Yes but they also have said they put some emphasis on being a conference champion and I think a 2 loss conference champ PSU with top 10 wins against OSU/Wisconsin will be enough in a season like this the way things have played out.
If the NCAA cared about being conference champ Alabama never plays LSU in the National Championship game. Every other conference champ should've leap frogged them. Conference championship games are another W to the committee. The B1G West is clearly an inferior division. The result shouldn't matter. I understand PSU fans are feeling high but let's be realistic. Wisconsin may still be ahead of them as well. 3 B1G teams ahead of you and you have the easiest road to the title game. Can't show the committee much more to sway them other than beating the worst one out of them.
You know if anything, I'd wonder if a team like UW might get passed over by an OSU type team. I don't know the SOS issues fully but I know UW has had questions about theirs. Still don't think that would happen especially because OSU wouldn't be in the B10 title game but i find that more plausible than a 2 loss PSU B10 champ with 2 top 10 wins being left out.
I'll say this much, this is probably a season where maybe you could find a semi plausible scenario where a conference could actually get 2 teams in. Still feel it's unlikely in general but if enough things play out who knows.
I'll say this much, this is probably a season where maybe you could find a semi plausible scenario where a conference could actually get 2 teams in. Still feel it's unlikely in general but if enough things play out who knows.
That was before the college football playoff and there were no committees. That was just relying on the polls. I think it's apples and oranges because there wasn't even a committee deciding who got in.
I think we get in over a PSU even if they are B1G champs (if we win out). We would still have more wins over higher ranked teams and only 1 loss in back to back away games at night against 2 teams coming off bye weeks. conference championship is not a criteria. Supposed to be best 4 teams period.
We will see.
We will see.
They're coming from far back so tougher but I wouldn't write them completely off just yet. They may have SOS issues as well, not sure. B12 has been weak too this year. Also while they may be a conference champ they won't have played in a conference title game, the same thing that handicapped them the last time around and kept TCU/Baylor out.
the committee seems to be thinking pretty highly of penn state. If they're considering the whole body of work I think that bodes pretty well for penn state actually.
Completely different systems which makes it completely irrelevant.
Well that would be precedent setting and I'd have to see it to believe it. In whatever scenario where OSU got in I think it would be alongside PSU not in place of them but like you said we'll see.
You're crazy.
If PSU were to win the East and then the B1G there is no way in hell OSU would get in over PSU.
It also has to do with who has a huge following. PSU, UM, and tOSU have a large amount of fans. More $$$$$ for the NCAA if they can figure out a way to persuade the committee to let two of them in. Would you rather have a combination of those two or one of them and a team like Boise St or Houston crash the party like in past seasons? Two is better for business.
I'd like to see what they'd do in a year where you had a bunch of conference title game upsets. Say Alabama lost, they'd still deserve to get in. Say VT/UNC beat either Louisville/Clemson. Say WSU won the PAC12 title game. Now that would be chaotic and they'd be a good chance to see teams that didn't make their conference title game get in or maybe 2 teams from a conference or a conference title loser. Like when Colorado beat Texas in the B12 title game 12-15 years ago, have that kind of thing happen a couple times.
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