Anderson, Shea and now Ash
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Tell me if I'm wrong, but there seems to be a small group of haters who bash anything and everything Rutgers based on events from yesteryear. Unless Rutgers names a true loser, they aren't happy. We won't hear from thing again unless Ash is losing. Btw, can someone confirm some of these posters are using 2 or 3 names to make it seem like there are others supporting them.[sick]
Wow a positive post by Nuts. Welcome back. Also agree with you 100% on cured by whining and manny.
IN OUR HOUSE
Honestly, they play five guys at a time....lots of freshmen play early and are effective. How long does it take to climb out of the cellar in college basketball ?
This is completely inaccurate. So your conclusions are based on completely inaccurate set of facts.
First, Anderson was NEVER a Coordinator - 10 years as Paterno's OL coach. Not a Coordinator.
Shea might be a better comparison, I will admit. He had been an Offensive Coordinator for 9 years, at 3 different colleges (San Jose St., Cal and Stanford), plus a head coach for 2 seasons - and a winning record each season. But Shea was a bad fit style and personality-wise.
I see no indication Ash is a bad fit style and personality, not for NJ.
And you have no idea whether Ash is being hired primarily because a high profile coach is "pushing" him, rather than the body of his work. Ash's body of work looks quite solid to me. His one gap is no head coaching experience. But RU's previous insistence on a candidate having head coaching experience resulted in Terry Shea being hired, and resulted in Julie Herman not getting the donor support to hire Tom Herman or Pat Narduzzi after the 2013 season, leaving RU with Flood for 2 more years.
So your rationale is also flawed, in addition to some of your facts.
The bottom line is, that unless RU was able to pry away an established winning head coach at a cost of $4 million per year (and it looked like the only one potentially willing to depart his current position was Mullen - and it remains possible that tire WAS kicked), ANY hire has risks. And that includes Schiano, Golden or Cristobal, all of whom have their own warts and risks.
lol I never left; plenty positive about other sports...bottom line...I just knew there were major issues with Flood, as did others, since Oct of 2013 and I refused to let it go. Turned out, unfortunately, I was right.
Now it's time to move onward and upward my friend! [banana]:cool2:[cheers]
WE HAVE A GUY FROM THE URBAN MEYER COACHING TREE AND PEOPLE ARE COMPLAINING???
To me this is a very safe hire for Rutgers. Bring in an ambitious, hungry, untested head coach with the clear understanding that Rutgers enforces the rules not the football coach. This mantra would not sell with Rodriguez, Kiffin or Mullen.
I'll support the guy. Hey, everyone needs a break in life to prove they're either the next Bear Bryant, Pete Carroll or Kyle Flood.
I'll support the guy. Hey, everyone needs a break in life to prove they're either the next Bear Bryant, Pete Carroll or Kyle Flood.
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Oh yeah. The high school coaches loved him.
Too bad most recruits don't care at all who their high school coaches like. And too bad whenever the coaches have a chance, they push kids to the biggest name program possible, to feather their own caps.
The single biggest "complainer" in the history of the boards. My anti-Flood complaint total, in a little over 2 years, doesn't hold a candle to "SickOfLosing's" long history of complaining (about, literally, everything...).
I'm waiting for his bro' Manhattan to chime in with more cheerful shit soon enough!
RU either made a choice to go with a young coordinator or was impressed by him during the process. I'm excited to see what he can do.
Whoever mentioned it above has it exactly: when a young coach walks into the home of a recruit wearing his OSU championship ring and talks about competing in the B1G, I don't think the recruit and his family care if the coach is from NJ or Wyoming.
People who are constant complainers often do it to cover their own butts. It's like some kind of really twisted "Win-Win" they get to play with themselves. The rationale is that if Ash turns out badly - they get the solace that they were right. If Ash is mediocre - they get to focus on the "glass is half empty" and if he turns out great - they get to celebrate like everyone else......and when this happens, no one is likely to call them out because people are generally happy and there is no reason to focus on the negative.
I think this is a great hire. We'll see if it works out or not but to me this is magnitudes above al golden or Mario cristobal. Ohio state doesn't hire many crappy coordinators. D'antonio was their former dc.
Jeez, and I thought MY thread sucked. :)
Here's the thing about this hire... Is he Dan Mullen? No. Mullen demanded $6M a year from both us and Maryland. Methinks Dan - who was my choice in 2013 and my choice this year - thinks too much of himself.
Al Golden? C'mon, guys. That was never gonna happen. Did Golden want the job? Yes. But think about it - we fire not only our coach but our AD as well, an unprecedented move by this administration, because the FB program had become an absolute goat rodeo. Did anyone seriously think that our new AD, the proclaimed specialist in crisis management and "righting the ship", was going to hire the guy who presided over Thug U.??
We're taking a risk on Ash because he has no HC experience. But at the same time, his coaching pedigree is outstanding. He's got fire, he's got grit. Determination. And G-U-T-S, guts. (Rest in peace, Lloyd Bridges) He can coach a defense, he's passionate about the game, he's going to work himself to the bone to prove his worth. If he hires the right staff, I think we've got a winner, here, in a couple of years.
Here's the thing about this hire... Is he Dan Mullen? No. Mullen demanded $6M a year from both us and Maryland. Methinks Dan - who was my choice in 2013 and my choice this year - thinks too much of himself.
Al Golden? C'mon, guys. That was never gonna happen. Did Golden want the job? Yes. But think about it - we fire not only our coach but our AD as well, an unprecedented move by this administration, because the FB program had become an absolute goat rodeo. Did anyone seriously think that our new AD, the proclaimed specialist in crisis management and "righting the ship", was going to hire the guy who presided over Thug U.??
We're taking a risk on Ash because he has no HC experience. But at the same time, his coaching pedigree is outstanding. He's got fire, he's got grit. Determination. And G-U-T-S, guts. (Rest in peace, Lloyd Bridges) He can coach a defense, he's passionate about the game, he's going to work himself to the bone to prove his worth. If he hires the right staff, I think we've got a winner, here, in a couple of years.
I like the hire, but it is a high-risk/high-reward proposition. I'm hoping for the high reward, which I think is more likely than not.
Being one who has followed the Buckeyes extremely closely, I can tell you honestly that Rutgers got a first class unifier, motivator, total team guy and an extremely creative coach who is always looking for ways to improve the situation. He fine tuned OSU's defense in a single year )2014) that made it possible for OSU to win the natty. He sold (literally) Urban Meyer on changing the defensive scheme that Urban had used for years. He sold Urban on instituting the "rugby style" tackling technique that led to OSU being tops in the country for two years in fewest missed tackles (one indicatpr of his inquisitive creativity.) Ash is also a bulldog of a recruiter. I am sure that in the coming years, the Knights will retain an increasingly higher percentage of top NJ talent - which I know will upset Urban Meyer, who LOVES recruiting NJ.
@CuredbywinningRU should change his handle to CuredbywhiningRU. Only a 2 letter difference and it is also more accurate.
It won't hurt Ohio State in recruiting much, they only normally take only 1-2 NJ recruits.
You know little about college football. You obviously don't think so, but it's true. Accept it or not.
Coordinators who served under Urban Meyer are a combined 271-155 at major D1 programs on their own...this hire is the definition of a slam-dunk..
And some are already convinced that we seriously have messed up (LOL?). I honestly believe some are truly damaged and suffering from PTSD (post Terry Shea Disorder)
Dumb ass post. No knowledge of ash's resume. All around dud of a post.
This part right here folks. I knew he was the one who changed their tackling technique. Remember all those missed tackles the past couple years. He fixes that the 1st year our defense will be leaps and bounds better. It's simple things like this that make bad teams(RU) better. I've been clamoring for the last few years that our tackling technique plain out sucks but yet none of the great minds(sarcasm) RU employed ever fixed it. We need an X's and O's coach which can develop and refine the talent we have. I have a feeling the pop warner coaching we had with guys constantly out of position will be a thing of the past. If he finds a similar mind for offense we could be set. Don't forget great minds think a like I'm sure he already knows who he wants to hire. It's up to RU to come up with the money to get him.
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the guy is not announced yet and the Steve Politi Disciples are already coming out of the woodwork
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I sometimes wonder - actually have always wondered - if you EVER have factual information to back up some of the nonsense you spew when incessantly whining on these boards. In the last 2 days alone, to a man, EVERY single coach or tv personality has stated, and I quote, "Chris Ash IS A TIRELESS RECRUITER" but, yeah, you have a clue LOL!
Oh, yeah, he worked at PRINCETON UNIVERSITY and has RECRUITED here, as well, so maybe YOU should "shove it" buddy-boy. [banana]:cool2:[banana]:cool2::boxing::cool2:[banana]:cool2:[banana]
Nothing worse than posting OPINIONS as "fact" and being proven to have absolutely ZERO factual knowledge regarding the topic you're talking about:
(thanks to newell138):
pulled this off the ESPN Insider section - if this doesn't make us feel like we got the right guy then nothing will:
2. With the silly season as crazy as it is, sometimes a very good hire doesn't quite get the fanfare that it should. That's exactly what happened with Chris Ash at Rutgers.
Not only is he widely respected by his peers as one of the best coaches in the country, simply put, he's one of the best recruiters around and has proven it every step of the way. Ash first emerged on the recruiting map at Iowa State, and the talent he was able to lure to Ames was impressive, especially since the Cyclones didn't have all the recruiting tools that they do now. He then did an excellent job at Wisconsin, Arkansas and Ohio State before landing the job at Rutgers.
"Recruiting is all about building relationships, and Chris can do that with the best of them," an ACC head coach told me Wednesday. "Recruits and their families love his passion and charisma. High school coaches like how he can talk Xs and Os without making them feel like they're being talked down to. He's sitting on a gold mine of talent in New Jersey, and while it's going to be tough to keep them all at home, I'm confident he's going to win a lot of those battles pretty quickly."
It really, really irks me when people make FALSE statements, with no factual backing, then run away and hide when presented with evidence to the contrary.
yes. all the locals loved him. They warned him about hiring partridge as well. Thank god flood listened and they sent him all those top 50 Jersey recruits.
He's another GREAT piece, on Ash, that the OP should have read before starting this thread:
http://www.sportsonearth.com/article/162331810/chris-ash-prepared-rutgers-football-challenge
http://www.sportsonearth.com/article/162331810/chris-ash-prepared-rutgers-football-challenge
Anderson was a laid back recruiter for PSU, but PSU did not need a lot of selling.... he did a bit of the same here and that would not work..
this hire reminds me more of the Shea hire, but I think Ash and staff are more savvy than Shea ever was....but neither Ash or Shea
were from the area .....Shea paid a price for not being local, Ash will have to over come it, which I believe he can
this hire reminds me more of the Shea hire, but I think Ash and staff are more savvy than Shea ever was....but neither Ash or Shea
were from the area .....Shea paid a price for not being local, Ash will have to over come it, which I believe he can
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