Any update on Ndongo or Davis signing?
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Exactly, we need to be targeting a 4/5 glass cleaner transfer regardless of his decision…mag health is questionable at best, Hyatt cant play the 4, Chol is the great unknown
Hyatt basically exclusively played the 4 and has been more effective at the 4 than the 3. He doesn't guard the perimeter well or handle the ball effectively enough for a 3
Together Hyatt and Mag made a pretty good 4. Some weaknesses for sure, but Pike was mixing them in brilliantly.
I'm hoping they can get a 4/small ball 5 who is better than Hyatt and Hyatt would play a lot less.
Or get Ndongo and have him be that guy.
Mag/Ndongo is a really athletic combo at the 4 that I would love to see
The rim protection for minutes with Ndongo and Cliff at the 4 and 5 should be elite, rebounding too
Definitely, Ndongo brings some exciting possibilities.
Ndongo and Griffiths - bring lineup flexibility with Ndongo as 3-4-5 and Griffiths as 2-3-4 (people are sleeping on his guard skills).
How confident are you that Ndongo suits up for RU next season?
Based on Richie and Mike’s recent podcast it seems to me that he is a strong Georgetown lean if the Hoya$ want him.
Ive already moved on to Plan B for Ndongo. I’m thinking about who we can get in the portal to replace the Ndongo spot on the roster.
Cash is King for this type of recruit imo.
More optimistic we land him today than I was yesterday
Ndongo is from Senegal - we're going there this summer
G-Town also took their last summer trip in 2019 - so they are likely going somewhere this summer too
G-Town also took their last summer trip in 2019 - so they are likely going somewhere this summer too
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I’m guessing that 93 doesn’t know anything except maybe a vague blurb from TOS.
they never said he was a strong lean to Georgetown, just that their guess is that he dosen't wind up at RU, and Georgetown is pushing for him
I still think we may win out at the end.... if we are close with the NIL offer, he is already a commit, so he just might decide to honor it... if we are way the hell behind, then I can see him flipping
For a couple of games at the end of the season when Hyatt was struggling. Let’s not forget that people here wanted Hyatt starting over Mag at one point during the season too. He’s a streaky offensive player who can contribute coming off the bench.
His career stats say he’s not good enough unless he improves significantly. Compare his shooting percentage to Caleb’s who is not a good offensive player and on the floor for defense. Then realize that Caleb was a DPOY kid and Hyatt is a defensive liability. That tells you all you need to know.
The anti-Hyatt stuff is hilarious......he knocked down the 2nd most 3s on the team, in a role the coaching staff asked for him to do......but because the PG, who also isn't great defensively, got replaced, what exactly does that tell you??
If Mulcahy can take 150 3s and knock down 35% of them, he can play over Hyatt.....until then, someone not named Griffiths and Spencer has to shoot the ball.....we don't get points for every dribble we take.....
The defense and nonsense that Palmquist somehow replaced Hyatt at the end is what was supposed to happen if and when a player isn't playing well.......except when fans like myself ask "why isn't Simpson cutting into Mulcahy minutes ", those same fans become eerily quiet.
If Palmquist was truly going to replace Hyatt, why did he hit the portal??
The gymnastics some fans here have is almost like Nadia Comaneci, from back in the day.....(if you don't know the name, you may be too young)....
Just stop with the guesses and look at what is actually happening.....and hope we keep Baye Ndongo or get another 3/4 via the portal.....for those who seemingly can't root for RU players or look at actual play and roles on the roster, designed by the coaches.
If Mulcahy can take 150 3s and knock down 35% of them, he can play over Hyatt.....until then, someone not named Griffiths and Spencer has to shoot the ball.....we don't get points for every dribble we take.....
The defense and nonsense that Palmquist somehow replaced Hyatt at the end is what was supposed to happen if and when a player isn't playing well.......except when fans like myself ask "why isn't Simpson cutting into Mulcahy minutes ", those same fans become eerily quiet.
If Palmquist was truly going to replace Hyatt, why did he hit the portal??
The gymnastics some fans here have is almost like Nadia Comaneci, from back in the day.....(if you don't know the name, you may be too young)....
Just stop with the guesses and look at what is actually happening.....and hope we keep Baye Ndongo or get another 3/4 via the portal.....for those who seemingly can't root for RU players or look at actual play and roles on the roster, designed by the coaches.
Is it Anti-Hyatt to say I hope we get someone better or that we get Ndongo and he plays more than Hyatt?
Hyatt seems like a hard worker and a good teammate, I will root for him regardless but I hope we can do better.
He shoots a lot given his inefficiency and if he does that this season, it could take shots away from better players. I understand his role last year at times was to force up shots. If he does that as much this season it will hurt the team because we've replaced Caleb with a scorer.
This exactly. It’s nothing against him. It’s just that he’ll be a 5th year career 37% shooter (37.4% last season) who isn’t on the floor for his defense. He doesn’t light it up from 3 (28.6% careeer) and he cannot handle the rock (as either a primary or secondary handler - even for short stretches). He doesn’t stand out as a bruiser on the offensive glass either (career average of 1 offensive board per game). So yeah - he put up points inefficiently this season on an offensively challenged team. If you have more efficient options to score, I agree that it’s hard to picture where he would then bring value. Here’s to hoping we’re in that position.
Hyatt had like 2 good games that were offset by 20 bad games. He is not good and looked like he was about to fall asleep in the games I went to.
His replacements weren’t any better though so let’s hope Mag or a recruit/portal player arrives.
His replacements weren’t any better though so let’s hope Mag or a recruit/portal player arrives.
Paul’s frosh season tells a different story. When surrounded by better shooters / scorers, Paul proved he adds value as a distributor. He earned 18+ minutes on the floor on a roster with Geo, JY, Tez, and Caleb in the backcourt. 4th year player Hyatt doesn’t see the floor on that roster. End of discussion. Paul contributes in ways Hyatt cannot.
Crabs in a bucket in action in this thread.
Started with update/debate about 2023 signings and shifted to beating each other up and knocking our current players.
Started with update/debate about 2023 signings and shifted to beating each other up and knocking our current players.
While you may not like it - the discussion is connected to the topic and very relevant. If we’re in a holding pattern with Ndongo, we definitely have to be thinking about the back up plan to compete for minutes at the 4 along side Mag (who may not even be ready to go when the season starts).
The options would be A) play a guard heavy line up - potentially Paul at the 3/4 B) rolling with Hyatt at the 4 again for significant stretches or C) bringing in another portal kid. Hence where the discussion about Paul and Hyatt comes in. Hopefully Ndongo signs and it doesn’t end up mattering.
I don't think there is any doubt or debate that if Ndongo doesn't sign then signing a big out of the portal will be a priority for the staff. Having said that, I don't think it's a problem to discuss the current players positive and negative as long as it's not nasty and generally being factual. They get to be famous and have to take the positive and negative along with it.
Of course. It seemed like the poster who complained was put off by the discussion on this particular thread because he wasn’t seeing the connection to the original recruiting conversation. Clearly the topics are related at this point in time as a hole will need to be filled if we lose one of our anticipated recruits.
No one disagrees with that, but I'm looking at just last year, when there wasn't JY, Geo, RHJ, Caleb or Tez.....those players are legitimate athletes......it's not the same thing when you replace them with Hyatt, Mag, Spencer, Jalen Miller and frosh Simpson.
I think what you are missing is the overhang of what hid Mulcahy's deficiencies, were crystal clear and the portal addresses that with Fernandes arriving. Ndongo in theory, should supplement Hyatt, but it would be 100% false to say we weren't counting on Mulcahy to step up, in the absence of the players who graduated.
I think what you are missing is that when others around him are natural scorers and shooters, Paul has a multi year history of adding value. Having RHJ and Geo on the court as scoring options in addition to Cliff makes a huge difference in his ability to be effective as a distributor. After playing 18+ mpg as a frosh, he went on to play starter minutes (+27) the following year despite having Geo and JY playing point. And then again 32.2 with Geo running the point as a starter in 2021-22. Geo and JY were just as much PG players as Noah is. Paul will play alongside Noah just as he did those guys.
I don't see it that way, if you are committed to playing Mag and Cliff, who are not natural scoring players like the players you are mentioning.....in addition, Cam Spencer is also 100% reliant on the offense to find him shot attempts.
Geo could create his own shot and find a Mulcahy.....
JY could completely go off-script and get his own offense.
RHJ the same.
We don't have those types of players and Mulcahy is now back on a similar roster, with the same limitations of players who need guards to generate offense for them. I don't know how we jump to this conclusion that it's now going to be different, unless we asking a lot of Fernandes and Simpson.
Noah plays a similar style to Geo. That alone will help Paul. And by the way, Paul was better early when we had Mag. It’s really hard to run an effective half court offense with one shooter and no transition game to mix things up. Again - Paul was consistently better throughout many years worth of data including the beginning of last season. Hyatt consistently was what he was which has been an inefficient scorer, and not a good ball handler.
If Paul only averaged 9ppg with Ron and Geo why would he do better with Fernandes? If Paul’s playing 32 mpg and still averaging sub 10 PPG this is an NIT team again. He’s got to be producing over 12 PPG minimum (which he’s never done before) or his minutes need to be cut. This team needs scorers badly.
Fernandes and Griffiths are clearly scorers
True but Simpson has proven to be a better scorer than Paul. Worse case they split minutes but no way Paul should play more. After 4 years playing with multiple players his production has been capped at below 10 PPG. Not going to cut it if you want to return to the NCAA’s.
I hope we return the favor and go after a Hoyas commit in the future
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