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Ha! Pike will start Gavin Griffiths. Not because I would and not because I think he should.
Pike will start him because he's better than the other options.
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We’ll see. Paul was a top 150 recruit and has 4 year’s experience and strength training.
Yeah, sounds silly doesn’t it but that’s exactly what some of these posters are saying. Check out a number of these posts above knocking Simpson because of his “poor shooting pct”. Trying to make the case he doesn’t positively impact the team and that Paul somehow deserves more minutes because of this isolated stat. What’s that about not seeing the forest through the trees?
Yes, but we had four players average 30+ across the entire season, not just late in the year. I'd be curious to know how many other major conference teams did the same.
Agree but Pike was playing starters 30+ minutes against cupcakes early in the year.
I have to unwatch this thread. Ndongo hasn't been the topic - for the last 50 comments 🤦♂️
The issue is he doesn’t know when he should go to the hoop and when to pass. He’s young and hopefully that changes. I’m not bashing the kid but you need both skill sets and he doesn’t have that yet.
Isolated stat? Lol
Simpson 2022-23:
.217 from 3 - worse than everyone who played & shot 3's other than Caleb
among the worst in P5/P6 with as many attempts
.425 from 2 - worst on the team among regulars
.374 overall - worst on the team among regulars
.400 EFG% worst among regulars
2.9 assists/40 - worse than any rotation player who played guard (Paul, 6.1, Cam 3.9, Caleb 3.6)
Ortg = 96.1 - that's a measure of points produced per 100 possessions - worse than any rotation player except Caleb - for comparison Paul=104.8, Cam= 121.5
PER = 11.5 the worst among regulars - for comparison Paul 14.4, Cam 21.4
Operative word, young. And every player of any age/amount of experience makes the wrong choice in terms of pass/shoot at times. I think he will get the balance right, he’s not selfish and has good instincts.
Yeah that 37% is sooo much worse than Paul’s 41%. I guess you’d be the guy that would prefer Gary Payton 2 because of his 75% pct over Steph, Dame Lillard, Donovan Mitchell, Kyrie, Trey Young, etc.?
There’s a reason Pike inserted him at PG in the post season. He was the only player that could create his own shot. You need those players on the court. Stop looking at stats and use your eyes … you’ll make better evaluations.
Lol I posted a bunch of stats and you’re picking one
I watched, I used my eyes, Simpson is an exciting but not very good player
I hope he gets better
On the season, Simpson took 27 more shots than Mulcahy and scored 6 more points.
Simpson took Hyatt's minutes (and starting job) at the end of the season, and Mulcahy moved to the wing where he continued to distribute... and we were better for it. Having both on the floor together was a good thing.
You’re entitled to your opinion. I think Pike disagrees. Like any of our players when they were freshman, he had growing pains but he improved as the season progressed and showed exciting flashes. He’s clearly athletic, has upside and skills other players don’t have we desperately need. Just as important, he has the confidence and swagger to deliver in big spots.
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Checked into this, at least for the B1G:
4 - Rutgers, Michigan, Wisconsin
3 - Michigan State, Purdue, Iowa, Penn State, Maryland, Minnesota, Nebraska
2 - Northwestern, Indiana, Illinois, Ohio State
Three teams is more than I thought.
Ahhh swagger
Pike went out and got a point guard in the portal not sure how that shows he disagreed
I would agree that starters played too many minutes early but RUs bench was the weakest bench in the big ten. It wasn’t close. In many games, the bench came in and gave up early leads. If Mag doesn’t go down, this team probably finishes the year much stronger.
You can literally say this about any player. Does any of our players always make the right decisions? A number of times Simpson made the right decision to drive or shoot but the ball just didn’t drop. Often Paul passes up an open shot or dribbles without a plan into the defense and passes it instead to a player that’s covered or doesn’t have as good a shot as the one he passed up … not always a good decision.
Having players on the court that are threats to attack the hoop always puts pressure on the defense and opens up lanes and shots for other teammates. If you don’t have players like that it makes it more difficult for the offense. That was our problem for much of this season and why the team struggled offensively.
All about depth. Good teams keep bringing in more talent. Notice how deep UConn’s rotation was this year? Was Sanogo worried about Donovan Clinghan coming on board?
I don’t think so. You may attribute his “improvement” in shot selection later in the season to development, but in truth, Simpson stopped taking terrible shots when he was given the green light to shoot at will and wasn’t forcing things every touch he got. Pike gave him that freedom because we often couldn’t get the ball in to Cliff and we didn’t have a lot of other options.
It’s not like Simpson was super efficient during that late stretch where after the season you’d hope that he’d continue to have the green light to go iso whenever he wants. Some guys don’t as play well when they are not targeted to be high usage guys. Other guys like Paul are more comfortable being the 4th-5th option
I'm not sure Simpson ever stopped taking bad shots. But you're right about not wanting him to be high usage next year. If he's in the rotation and he's 2nd in FGA/40 (like he was this year), we are in trouble.
Simpson brought a much needed skill set with his ability to create his own shot
He still needs to be more efficient next year. His shooting percentages were not good this season. There is no way around it
Both are obviously true. Saying shooting percentages don't matter is a non serious argument. Efficiency is important
You should try to actually understand what people are saying instead of arguing against a caricature of it.
Agreed. Simpson occasionally forced going to the basket, but he generally took good shots, but missed too many of them. Also needs to learn to pass better. Hopefully comes in time.
I'd argue that he took a lot of bad shots. BUT sometimes his bad shots weren't that bad with Paul, Caleb and Hyatt on the floor with him. It's a whole different story if he has Noah, Griffiths, Cam, Ndongo on the floor with him.
This is an underrated point. A lot of talk about what Paul can do with more offensive talent around him, but Simpson with a year of experience and more talent around him could potentially be a much better more efficient player. He might not force things as much if it's not required of him to do so
Maybe. For a guy who everyone says is so quick, how many times did he penetrate and throw Cliff an alley-oop, or kick to Cam in the corner?
Maybe he can do those things, maybe he can do a lot of things he didn't show last year, maybe he will get a lot better. I hope all of that comes true.
He wasn't good last year.
If he played 40 min a game he would have led the team in scoring with 14 ppg. Points is what we badly needed with this offensively challenged group. As a point of comparison, freshman Paul only averaged 3.7 ppg vs Derrick's 7.1 with relatively similar minutes.
You keep ripping Simpson's 37% fg pct obviously forgetting Geo's 38% freshman year. I guess he wasn't a good player that took alot of bad shots too? If he's another Geo I'm perfectly happy, but he may even be better. Keep focusing narrowly on that shooting pct and "bad shots". You're obviously biased and clinging to whatever to fits your narrative.
"not very good player"? - there's something wrong with those eyes.
And sometimes Oskar. Yes - this is an excellent way of putting it. What I meant in saying his shot selection improved was that early in the season when Caleb and Paul returned he found himself on the deep bench because he would chuck up out of control, ill advised shots early in shot clocks at times when Caleb / Mag / Cliff weren’t set yet on offenses to even give us a chance at rebounding a miss. Our defunct halfcourt offense was more serviceable with Mag because he got put backs. Simpson’s early shots gave us no chance. After Mag went down the halfcourt offense took a big hit in this regard. In many cases Simpson’s low percentage transition attempts became our best option sadly. We have to hope that won’t be the case next season.
I don’t think this is what he was saying, but it’s of course possible that Simpson develops into a good lower usage scorer who sees the floor well as a point and distributes to better shooters. Nothing about his game last year indicated that should be what we expect, but he was a frosh, so of course it’s possible to see that growth in his game.
I believe Milo was saying that Simpson’s iso shots were much needed in our stagnant offense. Those shots (unless he makes a whole lot more of them percentage wise) would be not be considered good shots in an offense with good ball movement and sharp shooters available to connect at a high efficiency rate. So unless either his shooting efficiency improves significantly or he demonstrates distribution skills we have not yet seen (maybe not his fault considering the surrounding talent, but regardless, we have not seen that from him yet) - his relative value to Paul as the 5th on the court is TBD. Ideally, iso ability won’t add much value which would mean that to play over Paul he would have to be better than him at distributing, rebounding, assists, defending bigger players, etc. we’ll see.
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This is a bizarre thread absent of common sense. There is literally 4 years of actually watching games to clearly see that Mulcahy is not a good PG.....please do not confuse "great passer" with good PG.
Paul has a role on any roster, on the wing and that is then giving him an option to handle the ball. BUT the timing of the offense and the flow of the offense is completely disrupted when Paul is the primary focus of handling the ball.
A) Anyone who writes about shooting percentages, is absent of common sense. Just because someone has a better shooting percentage ONLY means they cannot get their own shot.....and it ultimately means they are a limited player.
B) RUs offense lagged once we got past around 10 B1G games, because the scouting reports eventually catch up to teams. The PPG for RU, not what player's shooting percentage is or isn't, is what determines if your team can be successful. Paul as the primary PG, was not a successful offense more often than not, irregardless of what his shooting percentage is vs Simpson and his shooting percentage.
C) If you have a shot clock violation, because you can't get your shot off, you inflate your actual shooting percentage and Simpson (who was the only guard capable of generating his own shot) SHOULD shoot a much lower percentage, because there was no team speed and no transition baskets (layups or steals by others to lead to baskets).
I am shocked that fans are arguing a Simpson vs Mulcahy item anyway.....one is entering his 5th season and has been ultimately replaced via the portal (Fernandes IS the starting PG folks) and on no planet of sane basketball, should RU start Mulcahy over Gavin Griffiths or Mawot Mag (if Mag is healthy).
If we did not have Fernandes, then I would start Mulcahy, because your not giving me any other options, but if Gavin was here or a player at his caliber last year, Simpson and Gavin, mixed with Mag, Caleb/Cam and Cliff, makes much more sense in flow, defense, ability to score in transition and pushing the basketball.
Mulcahy simply is not a starting PG, irregardless of shooting percentages. And it's baffling to compare a freshman and his number as some sort of cemented items. I am fairly certain Simpson will increase his efficiency and numbers from his sophomore year vs freshman year.
We have seen 4 years of Mulcahy, why or in what category is he going to improve, if he cannot just be a catch and shoot wing player?? He should increase his 3 point shot attempts, BUT it requires a quick release, which will pull his shooting percentages, closer to where Hyatts are.
If you don't get as many 3 point shot attempts from Mulcahy, then I don't see a major role for him, unless Mag is not ready to play by November.
Paul has a role on any roster, on the wing and that is then giving him an option to handle the ball. BUT the timing of the offense and the flow of the offense is completely disrupted when Paul is the primary focus of handling the ball.
A) Anyone who writes about shooting percentages, is absent of common sense. Just because someone has a better shooting percentage ONLY means they cannot get their own shot.....and it ultimately means they are a limited player.
B) RUs offense lagged once we got past around 10 B1G games, because the scouting reports eventually catch up to teams. The PPG for RU, not what player's shooting percentage is or isn't, is what determines if your team can be successful. Paul as the primary PG, was not a successful offense more often than not, irregardless of what his shooting percentage is vs Simpson and his shooting percentage.
C) If you have a shot clock violation, because you can't get your shot off, you inflate your actual shooting percentage and Simpson (who was the only guard capable of generating his own shot) SHOULD shoot a much lower percentage, because there was no team speed and no transition baskets (layups or steals by others to lead to baskets).
I am shocked that fans are arguing a Simpson vs Mulcahy item anyway.....one is entering his 5th season and has been ultimately replaced via the portal (Fernandes IS the starting PG folks) and on no planet of sane basketball, should RU start Mulcahy over Gavin Griffiths or Mawot Mag (if Mag is healthy).
If we did not have Fernandes, then I would start Mulcahy, because your not giving me any other options, but if Gavin was here or a player at his caliber last year, Simpson and Gavin, mixed with Mag, Caleb/Cam and Cliff, makes much more sense in flow, defense, ability to score in transition and pushing the basketball.
Mulcahy simply is not a starting PG, irregardless of shooting percentages. And it's baffling to compare a freshman and his number as some sort of cemented items. I am fairly certain Simpson will increase his efficiency and numbers from his sophomore year vs freshman year.
We have seen 4 years of Mulcahy, why or in what category is he going to improve, if he cannot just be a catch and shoot wing player?? He should increase his 3 point shot attempts, BUT it requires a quick release, which will pull his shooting percentages, closer to where Hyatts are.
If you don't get as many 3 point shot attempts from Mulcahy, then I don't see a major role for him, unless Mag is not ready to play by November.
Is this better: The second most inefficient offensive player on one of the least efficient offenses in major college basketball
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