Anybody know why Hobbs wasn't retained as perm AD at SHU?

[Upstream]

I'm not sure how much free choice Pernetti had in hiring Flood. Wasn't he weighted down with a shoestring budget?

Tim had a budget that included Schiano's salary. He was expecting to spend that amount on the football coach.

Tim also had a bonus incentive to reduce the Athletic Department subsidy.

When Schiano suddenly resigned, Tim took advantage of his hiring of Flood as a way to reduce the budget and make it easier to meet his subsidy reduction goal.

But he certainly could have spent as much as was already budgeted to pay Schiano. He wouldn't have even had to go to President McCormick for a budget variance, since the funds were already budgeted.

 

[lighty]

I thought that Pernetti was a pretty good AD who got screwed by Barchi and Christie

Looking back with the benefit of a few years... how in the world was Pernetti a good AD?

(this from another fan of his at the time)

 

[batts]

Flood's recruiting started to decline after Pernetti was fired which pissed off the big money boosters. Coincidence? Perhaps not. There's certainly a correlation. I think it's unfair to condemn Pernetti for a bad hire when there were other factors in play. Also, Barchi used Pernetti as a scapegoat to cover up his own blunder in not terminating Rice. It's always easy and convenient to blame the guy who is no longer there. The FB program took a nose dive under JH's reign, not TP's.

 

[bac2therac]

totally disagree...Pernetti hired both Flood was not qualified and Rice. He owns them. Its not Julies fault that Kyle was a bumbling idiot. She got stuck with him. I do agree the donors who licked TP's balls were a major problem looking after their own petty agendas and that hurt Julie. So either way you look at it Pernetti caused the mess with the football program and also major national embarrassment with basketball. Sure Barchi and the BOG get some blame but TP bungling everything from his case to fire Rice down to his total mishandling of not getting out ahead of the story and releasing the tapes. All the negative press RU has received stems from Pernetti.

 

[Plum Street]

totally disagree...Pernetti hired both Flood was not qualified and Rice. He owns them. Its not Julies fault that Kyle was a bumbling idiot. She got stuck with him. I do agree the donors who licked TP's balls were a major problem looking after their own petty agendas and that hurt Julie. So either way you look at it Pernetti caused the mess with the football program and also major national embarrassment with basketball. Sure Barchi and the BOG get some blame but TP bungling everything from his case to fire Rice down to his total mishandling of not getting out ahead of the story and releasing the tapes. All the negative press RU has received stems from Pernetti.

Bac you're defending Herman past the end . It's over man. I will say pernetti, flood and rice were all terrible here . I wouldn't say Herman was terrible , I even think she got a little screwed . But I can't say she was good . Merry Christmas !

 

[batts]

Fun debate on a Christmas.

But now it's Time to spike the eggnog with bourbon and enjoy the holiday.

Merry Christmas!

 

[mikefla]

I started off all "Hobbs wont know football" and calmed down when I realise we are more about fundraising these days. After his statements and visability at game I am 100% on board with him....

I think he didnt "GET' the SHU job because he was waiting for a BETTER AD position [banana]:cool2:

 

[RU76]

IMO:

1. Flood's recruiting did not fall off because Tim was fired, but because the basketball media shitstorm surrounding RU led to his firing.

2. Tim did not control his budget. After Schiano left Barchi and the BOG had final say on whom he hired. I suspect that any AD would want to hire the best coach available, not the most affordable.

3. At the time Flood was retained it appeared, understandably, to be a good hire because there was continuity in recruiting and the price was right. Who knew that the media shitstorm, the Barnwell fiasco and the indictments would follow? The criticism of Flood that persists to this day is now justified mainly because of Barnwelll. What he did cannot be defended. The Maryland collapse, the criminals, the blowout losses and the critics just made it easier for RU to dump him without cause. He left as the only dismissed FB coach at RU with a winning career record in decades.

4. Julie was fired because the media was out to get her, the governor suggested a replacement and two coaches she did not hire were unproductive.

5. The local media prevailed again (think Mulcahy and Pernetti)..

6. The local media will turn on our FB coach and AD quickly if major events are leaked to other institutions first. In fact, it might already be too late. This is the functional equivalent of Tim blowing his nose in the SL or Julie saying she did not want to make headlines to keep the SL alive.

7. Despite all, our future is bright.

8. Merry Christmas.

 

[Knight Shift]

IMO:

1. Flood's recruiting did not fall off because Tim was fired, but because the basketball media shitstorm surrounding RU led to his firing.

2. Tim did not control his budget. After Schiano left Barchi and the BOG had final say on whom he hired. I suspect that any AD would want to hire the best coach available, not the most affordable.

3. At the time Flood was retained it appeared, understandably, to be a good hire because there was continuity in recruiting and the price was right. Who knew that the media shitstorm, the Barnwell fiasco and the indictments would follow? The criticism of Flood that persists to this day is now justified mainly because of Barnwelll. What he did cannot be defended. The Maryland collapse, the criminals, the blowout losses and the critics just made it easier for RU to dump him without cause. He left as the only dismissed FB coach at RU with a winning career record in decades.

4. Julie was fired because the media was out to get her, the governor suggested a replacement and two coaches she did not hire were unproductive.

5. The local media prevailed again (think Mulcahy and Pernetti)..

6. The local media will turn on our FB coach and AD quickly if major events are leaked to other institutions first. In fact, it might already be too late. This is the functional equivalent of Tim blowing his nose in the SL or Julie saying she did not want to make headlines to keep the SL alive.

7. Despite all, our future is bright.

8. Merry Christmas.

Hobbs was hired without ANY input from Christie. He learned of the hire after it was done.

The Tyree/Cohen BS bullying incident hurt recruiting too. But the thing that sealed it was the performance on the field that year. It was just awful with blowout losses.

 

[Upstream]

2. Tim did not control his budget. After Schiano left Barchi and the BOG had final say on whom he hired. I suspect that any AD would want to hire the best coach available, not the most affordable.

Barchi wasn't here at the time. McCormick and the BOG had already budgeted Schiano's salary. Pernetti could have hired another coach at the same salary with no change in the already approved budget.

 

[batts]

Good lord the spiked eggnog must be flowing! Bring out the coffee!

 

[BoogieKnight]

IMO:

The local media will turn on our FB coach and AD quickly if major events are leaked to other institutions first. In fact, it might already be too late. This is the functional equivalent of Tim blowing his nose in the SL or Julie saying she did not want to make headlines to keep the SL alive.

Good, bring it on. They don't deserve first dibs on any RU story. Keep leaking to SI and other outlets. I love it.