Ash tweeting "welcome to the fiesta bowl"
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It'll be interesting to see what the complainers about Ash, (all 3 or 4 of them...although they are repetitive), will focus on in order to keep bitching about the man once the Fiesta Bowl is over?
I'm sure they won't disappoint, though, and will undoubtedly latch onto something in order to continue their moaning sessions.
I'm sure they won't disappoint, though, and will undoubtedly latch onto something in order to continue their moaning sessions.
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Dude, give it a rest now. Repeating the same crap isn't going to change the facts that he's going to finish coaching the Fiesta Ball and than he's done and also it's Dead period, no in person contact, recruits or high school coaches.
He made that clear during the interview process, there were no surprises, but let's see what he's done since he been hired:
- he's hired a ST coach
- he's hired a OC/QB coach
- he's hired an OL coach
- he's hired a WR coach
- he's hired an asst DB coach
- he's hired 2 S&C coaches
- my understanding is he's contacted/visited all of our commits
- he has contacted/visited recruits
- for all we know he's probably has hired his staff but because some may be playing in Bowl Games or NFL, wait until their season ends and see if anyone has ties to the area
I get it, you want him here full time and I can respect that but all the bitchin isn't going to change anything, Jan 2nd he's all ours!! Based on the results so far, man has been working hard, you can't deny that. Let's see how he finishes the recruiting class and what the final staff looks like before we start jumping off a cliff.
I for one am very happy with the hires so far and feel like a kid in a candy store every day that I log into Rivals site to see who we hired or which new recruit is interested in us.
Okay, dude.
Keep bitching until Jan 2.
Then will you be a positive force for RUTGERS football and Ash?
You want Ash to be 100% for RUTGERS
Well, we also need our fans to be 100% in support of our coaches, team, players, etc.
The hard core fans need to grow the brand.
It doesn't help to nit pick every little wart or pimple, real or perceived.
Let the naysayers bash RUTGERS
We RUTGERS fans don't have to help or give them more info, especially as Ash tries to get this plane off the ground.
Keep bitching until Jan 2.
Then will you be a positive force for RUTGERS football and Ash?
You want Ash to be 100% for RUTGERS
Well, we also need our fans to be 100% in support of our coaches, team, players, etc.
The hard core fans need to grow the brand.
It doesn't help to nit pick every little wart or pimple, real or perceived.
Let the naysayers bash RUTGERS
We RUTGERS fans don't have to help or give them more info, especially as Ash tries to get this plane off the ground.
G unit the only few that he's rubbing the wrong way are the few like you that do nit have a clue in the world. He's promoting himself to recruits and RU but are you to blind and whiny to see that. I just don't get the stupidity of the people on this board
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Keep burying head in the sand. If we are going to get tweets from our head coach about OSU arriving excuse me if I think it's a bit odd and inappropriate. You seem to enjoy it. Go for it. I beg to differ. Go RU!!
Will also be thrilled on 1/2. As for all the hires they seem perfectly fine but would also like to see some real Div. 1 experience and some guys from the northeast. Terry Shea refused to hire experienced local guys and was doomed.
Will also be thrilled on 1/2. As for all the hires they seem perfectly fine but would also like to see some real Div. 1 experience and some guys from the northeast. Terry Shea refused to hire experienced local guys and was doomed.
OMG!
95% of RUTGERS fans are burying their heads in the sand, while the other probably < 5% like you got it right!
All bow down to the Righteous 5!
Who are all these people who are offended by Ash sending a friggin tweet of him getting of the plane at the Fiesta Bowl?
You and who else?
I wish Ash would tweet pictures of himself in his office at Rutgers making phone calls to recruits.
That would be SO MUCH MORE EXCITING and really get the fanbase pumped!
Our coach is coaching in the Fiesta Bowl a year after he won the National Championship.
What great bowls were the brilliant coaches at Maryland and Syracuse at in the past 2 years?
Which of the 3 coaches is going to have more street cred?
A coach who says I hope to get my team to a New Year's Day bowl someday, or a coach who has actually done it?
What are recruits going to watch on New Year's Day?
Their future head football coach coaching his *ss off at one of the biggest stages; then he will say, "I know what it takes to get here. Follow me."
I think you should email Ash asap. I'm sure he can't wait to hear all about what you would like to see.. he really needs you looking over his shoulder... you know
And there it is. The obligatory and irrational Terry Shea comparison. Really makes you look insecure, small and silly. Shea failed.for many reasons, not just his lack of NJ ties.
Ash was always going to coach through the bowl season and he made that clear. So for people that can't accept that, what would be the alternative? Retain Flood? Hire a different coach? Hire Ash on the down low and not announce him until after bowl season? Force Ash to reneg on his commitment after he publicly affirmed it?
Not a single one of those alternatives is remotely, objectively better than our current situation.
Not a single one of those alternatives is remotely, objectively better than our current situation.
I'm not going to fault a coach for leaving mid-contract for a promotion, as long as they pay the contractually negotiated buyout and have completed the previous team's season. The two-year commitment for Meyer's assistants is in their long-term benefit to follow, because as a championship coach he has the leverage to demand as such. Bret Birlema, while a good coach, simply couldnt demand the same from Chris Ash at Arkansas.
I truly don't understand how Rutgers fans don't get this.
A prerequisite to joining a staff headed by Urban Meyer is you finish the year with the team. Period. End of story. Don't like the rule don't accept the job to coach on the staff of quite possibly the best HC in CFB.
"The rule" goes back to his days at Florida. Charlie Strong accepts the Louisville HC job and finishes the year coaching UF in the Sugar Bowl. Everett Withers accepts the JMU HC job and finishes the year coaching tOSU in the Orange Bowl. Herman last year. Ash this year.
Why is this so hard to comprehend?
A prerequisite to joining a staff headed by Urban Meyer is you finish the year with the team. Period. End of story. Don't like the rule don't accept the job to coach on the staff of quite possibly the best HC in CFB.
"The rule" goes back to his days at Florida. Charlie Strong accepts the Louisville HC job and finishes the year coaching UF in the Sugar Bowl. Everett Withers accepts the JMU HC job and finishes the year coaching tOSU in the Orange Bowl. Herman last year. Ash this year.
Why is this so hard to comprehend?
It isn't hard to comprehend. Why is it hard to comprehend that the point of this thread was, in view of the prerequisite of finishing out, whether tweeting from non-Rutgers events for a soon to be competitor is appropriate conduct? Some people say promoting the Fiesta Bowl is good for recruiting. Most others, like you, ignore the central question and just regurgitate the same argument about finishing out versus not finishing out. Comprende?
You sound like the eternal optimist and your premise revolves around OSU crushing Notre Dame. But remember one thing Notre Dame is no push over and Brian Kelly is also a phenomenal game day coach. If OSU and Meyer get there asses handed to them (which I seriously doubt) or lose a close game (possible) it will not be viewed as the win win scenario in your post. If OSU walks all over Notre Dame and the announcers mention Ash and Rutgers it will be a win win for us.
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I am not a Rutgers fan and have no dog in this fight, and have to say I'm amused reading thru this thread. I know most of you want to give Coach Ash the benefit of the doubt but I'm with the fans who wanted Ash to immediately resign. Ash says he is "keeping his word"? Do you honestly think if a "1st Tier" program like a Texas or So Cal came calling that Ash would take the same stance? I dont think he would. Ash is doing what most young coaches do, he's keeping his options open. Ash would have done this to Syracuse, UCONN, BC or any program that is trying to rise. Someone mentioned Charlie Strong and his move from Florida Assistant to Louisville Head Coach. Strong did the same as Ash and waited for his season to end before joining Louisville. If Strong would have been offered the Texas job instead, there is no question he would have resigned immediately from Urban Myer's staff, Texas would have demanded it. Ash is a young coach and had "leverage" in his negotiations with Rutgers. Perhaps Ash in keeping "his options open" didnt want to alienate OSU? Maybe he wants to be considered for the Head Coaching job there in the near future. Anyway, something to think about.
Who gives a sh*t if that is his official title.
Everyone knows he runs the show, except you won't acknowledge that fact.
In fact, you and others keep saying "co" just to make him look bad.
Can you explain why tOSU fans are lamenting the fact Ash is leaving, and want him to take Fickle (sp.?) with him?
Don't waste your time with him. He wishes Golden got the job and is acting like a bitter crybaby because he didn't get his way.
Ummm, unless the camera pans to the booth, they won't see him at all. It is my understanding he is upstairs and his co-defensive coordinator (and perhaps Schiano) will be the ones on camera looking like they are working their ass off. Which should certainly make an impression with NJ recruits. I'd rather NJ recruits not watch that and instead see tweets solely about Rutgers and getting texts, emails and communications ftom our coach. Unfortunately, while in Ohio, he missed the contact period and they are now in the dead period so can't do face to face.
I understand GRUnit's frustration. He wants our head coach here and his attention not divided. Even his tweets are back and forth between OSU and Rutgers. It dilutes the message and I don't buy that bringing attention to him at OSU is good for our recruiting. If anything, it is good for OSU - who is supposed to be his opposition now.
Now if you tell me he is secretly, behind Urban's back, convincing OSU players and recruits to come to Rutgers and that is the method behind his madness, then I suddenly have a profound new respect for Chris Ash and love the guy! For some reason, I'm thinking that isn't the case and instead Schiano and company are tweeting, texting and emailing His network of NJ coaches and their top players about coming to OSU. For all we know, Schiano may have already made several visits to NJ before the dead period. Not beyond the realm of possibilities. Just saying.
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You seem to have a problem with his title. Take your battle to OSU as I didn't give him the title. However, with his co-defensive coordinator there and Schiano there, do you honestly believe he needs to be there for a game that doesn't have National Title implications?
So, let me see if I understand: "You would have a whole new respect for Coach Ash if he stabbed Urban Meyer in the back?" That would give you a whole new level of respect for our Coach?
Umm, you keep coming back to Golden. As I've said before, Golden wasn't my top choice, just another cheap alternative (like Ash) that was more qualified. You want to make it just a Golden vs Ash debate because that is easier than arguing against a Kelly, Mullen, Pellini or Schiano. I with you hoping we found another needle in the haystack. But unlike you, I hate going to the haystack so often.
Go RU!
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It would at least explain why he is out there. If you tell me it is because he is so loyal, then explain why he ran from Arkansas to avoid tainting his shining star? And don't think Urban isn't smart enough to know the longer Ash is with OSU and his attention divided the better off it is for OSU.
Go RU!
-CG
I'm suspicious that you are from another team's rivals site and are trolling here -perhaps the mods can look into this. The reason is as follows....
You are continuing to take shots as Ash in various threads. For instance you have made the claim in multiple threads that Ash "Fled" Arkansas to sustain his image. Do you have any facts to support this or are you making this up? It is a type of character assassination that is curious for an RU Fan to make about an incoming coach. If you are making this up then you should be banned.
Chicago_Glenn......comes out of hiding to defend people with a different opinion.
Tells people to stick head in sand every time someone has a different opinion.
:joy: What a douche you are.
I keep going back to Golden because he's the only realistic candidate out of your delusions.
I'm curious, did you like Mullen when he was at Florida or only after year 1 at Miss St?
Yes, I'm a troll. I've probably joined this site long before you since I was on near its inception. I also have probably contributed more money to the RU athletic programs than you will ever contribute considering they've told me I'm in the top 2% of contributors (which is a sad statement about our alumni base in and of itself). But just because I am challenging the decision making and strategy (which includes comparing coaches background and experience) I am a troll. Lest us recall the great background checks our great institution has done in the past - failing to uncover major warning signs in some of our hires past histories. I have a right to be challenging and blind optimism is not in my vocabulary given Rutgers storied history of decision-making.
That said, here is one of the articles that highlight why Ash left Arkansas. It isn't coming from me but rather those closest to the Arkansas program and situation at the time.
http://www.sportinglifearkansas.com...ash-easy-to-understand-and-probably-for-best/
Keep on trolling!
Go RU!
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That said, here is one of the articles that highlight why Ash left Arkansas. It isn't coming from me but rather those closest to the Arkansas program and situation at the time.
http://www.sportinglifearkansas.com...ash-easy-to-understand-and-probably-for-best/
Keep on trolling!
Go RU!
-CG
This sounds like a person who loves his school ! Nice post.
Why? Because I state the obvious around our historical mishandling of the sports program ? That is well-documented. Or because I challenge our decision-making as a result given my long standing loyalty and support to the program despite our public gaffes.
Go RU!
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"Don't let loyalty make a fool of you"
Dude
You can't be this dumb
So he left Arkansas to avoid tainting his image.
If he was so bad, why would Urban Meyer hire the guy?
And if was so bad, why was he credited with improving the OSU pass defense from somewhere around 100 nationally to top 20 or better?
And the defense as a whole to the point they WON THE NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP?
If you are such a big "supporter" of RUTGERS athletics and football, why are you being such an *ss and trashing your new coach in every single one of your damn posts?!
You are a TROLL!
(Or just a whiney weasel who didn't get his guy hired.)
Remember how you said you liked Ash's press conference?
Remember when Ash said we need to create "positive energy" at RUTGERS?
Well WTF are you doing to help generate positive energy?
Nothing.
Nothing but bitching about the guy.
What is your problem?
This part of the article should let everyone know why Ash left > "This shouldn’t all fall on Ash, for Bielema is also heavily involved in what kind of defense he wanted to play last season. But, while we know the need for better players is serious, we also don’t believe the players they had to work with were THAT BAD. They were too often put in situations to fail."<
When the HC wants a D to play a certain way , even of the personnel wasn't suited for it,the DC does it because his boss tells him to.
The best way to end that type of job is to get out of Dodge ASAP if he thinks he won't succeed by doing his job the the way the HC demands
He spent 1 year at Arkansas and left because his idea of how Arkansas' D should be run and Bielema's were different and Ash knew he'd be better off going to another school to run the D with less interference
That article also shown that Ash was smart enough to know that he would fail by doing his job
the way the HC wanted him to do it
Thanks for posting it, shows Chris Ash knows what he's doing and the best way to succeed as a FB coach.
His loyalty to Arkansas isn't the question, but the answer is Arkansas' HC didn't allow Ash to run the D the way Chris felt comfortable with and Ash moved on to another school where he could do his job the way he felt was best.
You are my problem and every one like you. Your posts all contain insults when someone disagrees with you. You and the others who insult board members aren't posting anything that presents a justification for a point of view, just a bunch trash talking because you don't agree with someone else's point of view. Stupid. Ignorant. Dumb Troll. Nice adjectives but of little value in proving your point. Actually undermines your credibility and makes you more like your adjectives than me.
When you and some of your cronies get challenged with the facts, you hide behind insults and conspiracy theories of trolling or disloyalty. This all started because board bullies like you just trash talk rather than having civil discussions and when it is thrown back in your face you say I have the problem. The question is - what is your problem?
There are people that you and others have trashed that are every bit as loyal (and I would say probably more loyal in many ways) to the school and they have a right to be critical and challenge decisions by the administration given we are just coming off a bunch of bad decisions and miss-hires that caused the university great embarrassment and a program on the rise to stall and faulter. So if we question whether Ash was the most qualified candidate and are greeted with those nice adjectives you and others like to toss around rather than having a civil discussion on the pros and cons, then you bet I'm going to come back at ya and challenge everything about the decision to hire Ash until you can present an argument a little more coherent than a bunch of slurs. Many others have come back with intelligent counterpoints and I have acknowledged and appreciated their point of view even when disagreeing. But some of you only want to try and bully your way through those with opposing views by throwing out insults under the guise that somehow you are more loyal and those who disagree are ignorant disloyal trolls.
Well, unfortunately, you are actually part of the problem, not the solution.
But you go ahead and throw some more insults my way if it makes you feel better. As for me, I will just continue to support the program and challenge us to think bigger and be better. While The university may have once again thought cheap and small (my argument), I'm pretty confident that when Ash finally gets here he will want to build something bigger and better that what he has inherited. Whether he has the ability to do so and whether the university will support him are the two big unknowns and unfortunately that is the basis for my scrutiny.
Call me stupid. Call me disloyal. Call me whatever you want, but I'm pretty confident in my position to withstand any name calling.
Have a good night and Go RU!
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P.S. I never said I liked Ash's press conference. You are confusing me with another member you must have trashed. Seems I'm not the only one at which you spew your venom.
A valid alternative take on the situation. I appreciate your point of view and reasoning and how you presented it.
Thanks,
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