BACATOLOGY: NCAA TOURNAMENT ANALYSIS 2/21
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Memphis should forfeit 6-8 points for playing on that hideous blue court. It’s really hard to watch.
Wins aren’t the problem. We’re already in good shape with that. I just feel like we need for the losses not to stand out. At 14 they do - very few teams usually get in at that count. The ones that do typically have top 10 caliber SOS.
Yup. I said in a post I would LOVE to have someone like him, it’s what we need… I was shot down
well Indiana and Memphis win...doesnt move them up really as these were not quality wins, it was about them hurt their resume
Talk about some weird scores. Wagner # 1 in the NEC with a 19-4 record loses in OT to FDU who is having their worst year in forever at 4-20 . Hofstra , 3rd in the Colonial with a 19-9 record and 11-1 at home loses by 26 at home to Elon who was 8-21 and 1-11 on the road before their win tonight. The February grind affects every team.
Murray St whipping Belmont 35-17 and Gonzaga up 52-42 over San Fran at half
I stand corrected. That Oregon court looks like some giant northwest Sasquatch vomited on it repeatedly.
SF is the type of team I’m thinking of that could get in ahead of us if we end with 14 losses (no matter who we beat). At 25-9 their gaudy computer numbers would be tempting next to our loss total. It feels pretty important to keep that to 13 a number where far more teams have gotten in historically.
agree....that would mean 7 losses and note they already lost to Murray St by 20, lost to LSU by 30. Just because they have wins over StLouis, Iona and Chattanooga shouldnt put them in the tournament. Somehow their non conference sos is 20..whatever
Ive sort of been resigned to 3 going from the WCC...right now I have 4 but BYU likely will not get a bid since they figure to be matched up with Gonzaga in the WCC semis
There seem to be good number of teams like this floating out there this year. A bunch in the MWC, SMU, etc. If these types are selected ahead of us, it’s going to be about the loss count compared to their records and computer numbers, not the wins.
Rutgers has multiple red flags so its up to the mercy of the committe if we are 18-14....19-14 we are going, thats possibly 9 wins vs the field, we will go everytime
Can someone please tell Bill Walton that the "Conference of Champions" hasn't won a NCAA BASKETBALL championship in 25 years.
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I actually changed the channel due to him. Just can’t listen to his nonsense.
In 2020-21 the "Conference of Champions" were NCAA champs in the following sports:
Mens Gymnastics, Mens Indoor Track, Mens Water Polo, Women's Basketball, Women's Beach Volleyball,
Women's Outdoor Track, Women's Water Polo and Co-ed Skiing.
Not exactly attention grabbers.
Mens Gymnastics, Mens Indoor Track, Mens Water Polo, Women's Basketball, Women's Beach Volleyball,
Women's Outdoor Track, Women's Water Polo and Co-ed Skiing.
Not exactly attention grabbers.
Listening to Bill Walton makes me long for Matt Millen and Beth Mowins
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While i agree (hope to) some bracketologist (and good ones) still dont consider us a lock if that happens. Theres other teams too
There is only 13 teams with 6 Q1 wins or more.
Kansas, Baylor 10-4, Iowa St 8-7, Gonzaga 8-2
Alabama, Marquette 7-7,
Texas Tech, Villanova 7-6, Kentucky 7-5,
Purdue, Auburn, Wisconsin 7-3, Providence 6-2
Rutgers is one of 11 teams at 5 Q1s(5-4)
and 8 with 4 Q1s wins.
How are we left out with 1 more Q1 win whether Wisconsin or @Indiana? with PSU.
Kansas, Baylor 10-4, Iowa St 8-7, Gonzaga 8-2
Alabama, Marquette 7-7,
Texas Tech, Villanova 7-6, Kentucky 7-5,
Purdue, Auburn, Wisconsin 7-3, Providence 6-2
Rutgers is one of 11 teams at 5 Q1s(5-4)
and 8 with 4 Q1s wins.
How are we left out with 1 more Q1 win whether Wisconsin or @Indiana? with PSU.
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Because we’re also the only bubble team to have 3 quad 3/4 losses.
2/24 update which reflects our loss to Michigan but not the games last night...
Of the 47 brackets updated yesterday, only 45% have us in, almost all as a 12 seed.
That said some of the better bracketologists (Lunardi, Bracket Dave) still have us as a "last 4 bye" team.
Think it's pretty clear we need to win tomorrow.
Miami(20-8)has 3 Q3 losses, they are safely in the field SOR 34.
2 buzzer beater losses in games 5 and 6 against bad teams won't prevent us from making the field with a Q1 6-5 Q2 3-4 and finishing 9-9 Q1/2. Baylor(19-13) made it as a 9 or 10 with 1 Q3 and 2 Q4 losses in 2018-19. Q1 4-9 Q2 8-1, 12-10
I think with 14 losses overall it could. Very few 14 loss teams are typically selected.
Decided to look it up - in 2011 FIVE teams with 14 losses got an at-large bid (super bizarre)…and it hasn’t happened since.
Before that it happened in 2008, and before that 2001.
I believe it’s 16 total 14+ loss at large teams (since 1985). Granted a larger percentage of them have been since the field expanded to 68 but still. Total losses is an important deciding metric and there is a huge difference between 13 and 14.
Ohio St(19-14), Florida (19-15) in 2018-19.
NCAA knows the NET isn't placing teams the way they are supposed to like in 2018-19, don't rely on what the NET is telling us.
Yeah just realized the article I was using was from 2017 lol my b. So there’s certainly precedence for it
Yes - there are a few. As I said - I think it’s 16 ever give or take. It’s not more than 20 over a period of 35 years.
