There is. Your not going to find precedent for it though with the kind of non-conference record / schedule we have though.
That doesn’t mean there isn’t a first time for everything.
BACATOLOGY: NCAA TOURNAMENT ANALYSIS 2/21
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That doesn’t mean there isn’t a first time for everything.
Last year, was a trial by error with so many variables and Covid pauses. This year, it has been closer to a full season like 2018-19, they know it isn't working the way it is supposed to. They will choose based on Strength of Record and other methods than how teams are placed in the NET right now, you saw it in the top 16 announced last Saturday.
Since the NET this year is essentially Kenpom, I expect the selection committee to put roughly the same amount of weight on it as they do Kenpom which is ~0.
Our NET will not be the reason we don't make the tournament.
Our NET will not be the reason we don't make the tournament.
For sure. The NET will be like RPI was. Will only go so far as a determinant. But road record and potentially total loss count (if we can’t win 2 of the next 3) will be out there working against us too.
Not much movement from last night. Oregon though is on the cusp. If they can beat USC they likely dance
LAST FOUR BYES
LAST FOUR IN
FIRST FOUR OUT
NEXT FOUR OUT
LAST FOUR BYES
- WAKE FOREST
- TCU
- SAN FRANCISCO
- RUTGERS
LAST FOUR IN
- NORTH CAROLINA
- SMU
- BYU
- INDIANA
FIRST FOUR OUT
- OREGON
- MEMPHIS
- SAN DIEGO STATE
- VCU
NEXT FOUR OUT
- FLORIDA
- DAYTON
- SAINT BONAVENTURE
- VIRGINIA
clean profile no bad losses
wins over St Marys and CSU by 30, meh that should not get you in especially as a 4th...the game at Wyoming is huge for them. In fact Wyoming better win that too because their profile is pretty weak as well.
the entire conference being helped out by mediocrity like Utah State and Fresno State being ranked higher than what Penn State, Northwestern and Maryland are in the Big 10.
Figured out why #41 VA Tech(SOR 70), best win Home to #56 ND, is overrated and #82 St. Bonaventure(SOR 54), beat #32 Boise St and #34 Marquette on a Neutral court, is underrated.
Va Tech 0-5, 5-4, Q1/2 5-9
SBA 3-3, 3-3, Q1/2 6-6
Dec 17, VA Tech 86 SBA 49 +37, Va Tech Up +11, SBA Down -27, one game. If the final score is 71-64, +7 or capped, SBA would be talked about more on the Bubble and probably in the top 75 NET, VA Tech out of the top 50 given the movement with Loyola and Evansville.
Illinois 35 pt loss is definitely the second worst loss in 21-22 version of the NET, we are in the top 75 easily with capped losses.
Va Tech 0-5, 5-4, Q1/2 5-9
SBA 3-3, 3-3, Q1/2 6-6
Dec 17, VA Tech 86 SBA 49 +37, Va Tech Up +11, SBA Down -27, one game. If the final score is 71-64, +7 or capped, SBA would be talked about more on the Bubble and probably in the top 75 NET, VA Tech out of the top 50 given the movement with Loyola and Evansville.
Illinois 35 pt loss is definitely the second worst loss in 21-22 version of the NET, we are in the top 75 easily with capped losses.
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Oregon St(3-23) has vs UCLA, Wash St H/R, Washington left
Oregon St is now NET 245, a Q4 road game in the Pac 12.
Q3 road is 136-240.
Expect some of these games close, or win one for future measuring stick of jumps, to get them above 240 NET and a bunch of teams an extra Q3 road win in the Pac 12. No way they are getting above 160.
Oregon St is now NET 245, a Q4 road game in the Pac 12.
Q3 road is 136-240.
Expect some of these games close, or win one for future measuring stick of jumps, to get them above 240 NET and a bunch of teams an extra Q3 road win in the Pac 12. No way they are getting above 160.
We own most of the tiebreakers
Purdue(13-4) RU 1-1, Mich 1-1, *Wisc 0-1(1 left)*, (Ind L)
Wisconsin(13-4) *RU 0-1(1left)*, OSU 1-1, MSU 1-1, Ill 0-1
Illinois(12-5) RU 1-1, Purdue 0-2, OSU 0-1, (Maryland L)
Ohio St(11-5) RU 0-1, Iowa 0-1, Purdue 0-1, Wisc 1-1, (Ind L)
Rutgers(10-7) Pur-UM 7-3(1 left), 9th-14th 3-4, (Ind, PSU left)
Iowa(10-7) RU 0-1, Pur 0-2, *Ill 0-1(1left)*, *Mich 0-1(1left)*, Wisc 0-1, (PSU L)
Michigan St(9-7) RU 0-1, Ill 0-2, Wisc 1-1, Iowa 0-1, (NW,PSU L)
Michigan(9-7) RU 1-1, *Ill 0-1(1left)*, *MSU 0-1(1left)*, Purdue 1-1, *OSU 0-1(1left)*,
Wisc 0-1, (Minn L)
Ties, in most cases, will go to us.
2nd tie breakers we will only lose if the tied team holds a 1-0 or 2-0 vs 1-1 against that same 1st place, 2nd place team on down,
Purdue could revenge their only 0-1 Wisc.,
Wisconsin only loses a tiebreaker to Ill, possible 0-2 to us
Illinois loses tiebreakers to Purdue and Ohio St.
Ohio St loses tiebreakers to us, Iowa and Purdue
We own 1st tiebreakers vs Iowa and MSU
Purdue(13-4) RU 1-1, Mich 1-1, *Wisc 0-1(1 left)*, (Ind L)
Wisconsin(13-4) *RU 0-1(1left)*, OSU 1-1, MSU 1-1, Ill 0-1
Illinois(12-5) RU 1-1, Purdue 0-2, OSU 0-1, (Maryland L)
Ohio St(11-5) RU 0-1, Iowa 0-1, Purdue 0-1, Wisc 1-1, (Ind L)
Rutgers(10-7) Pur-UM 7-3(1 left), 9th-14th 3-4, (Ind, PSU left)
Iowa(10-7) RU 0-1, Pur 0-2, *Ill 0-1(1left)*, *Mich 0-1(1left)*, Wisc 0-1, (PSU L)
Michigan St(9-7) RU 0-1, Ill 0-2, Wisc 1-1, Iowa 0-1, (NW,PSU L)
Michigan(9-7) RU 1-1, *Ill 0-1(1left)*, *MSU 0-1(1left)*, Purdue 1-1, *OSU 0-1(1left)*,
Wisc 0-1, (Minn L)
Ties, in most cases, will go to us.
2nd tie breakers we will only lose if the tied team holds a 1-0 or 2-0 vs 1-1 against that same 1st place, 2nd place team on down,
Purdue could revenge their only 0-1 Wisc.,
Wisconsin only loses a tiebreaker to Ill, possible 0-2 to us
Illinois loses tiebreakers to Purdue and Ohio St.
Ohio St loses tiebreakers to us, Iowa and Purdue
We own 1st tiebreakers vs Iowa and MSU
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None of this matters. Team has to win two more. Unfortunately a daunting, but possible task, for this team. They decide their own fate.
La Salle up on Dayton late... Would be big, they are first four out for a lot of brackets. Their resume is like the light version of ours with some terrible early losses
Dayton will likely be out if they lose to LaSalle..would be 4 bad losses
I know they host Davidson next week but...
I know they host Davidson next week but...
Dayton loses at La Salle, they're now out of the at-large picture.
They are actually reviewing something, not sure what cuz the feed cut out
Literally been 5 minutes reviewing when a foul took place (with LaSalle going to the stripe... So game is effectively over, I think)
3 of next 4 too. We control our own destiny
LaSalle winning this at home will move the loss to a Q3 road for Dayton but they are dead unless winning the A10, outside shot of the last 4 in, A10 finals. Dayton has an impressive win over Kansas.
KSU about to go down to ISU, they were a fringe bubble team.
Couple results going our way now
Couple results going our way now
Kansas State’s small bubble chances are done now too.
Kansas State and West Virginia finally officially done. Big 12 will be 6 bids unless TCU seriously backslides or someone weird wins the conference tournament.
None..miami is basically in...not so fast after losing
The schools to watch are Oregon and TCU and then SMU/Memphis game tomorrow
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Miami still has two road games left. If they lose at Syracuse they're 21-11 with not a ton of meat on the bone. Probably still in but First Four material.
