Not when your Conference is as good as any in the land and you play a 20 game season. Through in a Seton Hall and at least one other Big East game and one ACC team. SOS as a whole is fine.
Why do people say things like this? Having to play an extra game reduces your chances of making any subsequent round by ~50%
But that would impact your overall SOS.
I posted the stat I think in this thread, the play ins have actually done fairly well
They've done better than expected at 15-15 but you still need to play an extra game. Even if we accept that play-ins somehow have an advantage in the 2nd game (and the sample size is way too small to really believe that imo) the extra game is still a huge disadvantage.
Not because we’re ahead in the standings. Because what it would mean is that against the same competition (actually unbalanced with RU playing more harder teams twice overall) we would’ve won 2 more games than them. Why should those 2 extra wins be less important than their wins over UConn and Loyola? If we won a neutral first round game in the BIG tourney and they lost - couldn’t you view our win as the Rider replacement game in our SOS? We’d then match them in the win column too. In that scenerio I’d think our seeds would be pretty similar.
MSU getting lucky with their B1G schedule is the only reason they are going to the dance. If their 2 games weren't all against the bottom of the conference they would have a couple more losses
They are getting saved in the conference SOS computer numbers because they didn’t play Nebraska twice. That’s why I hate blended averages. They played everyone else with 7 or less conference wins two times. We played the top 3 teams in the conference 2 times.
I don’t see Michigan getting in unless they beat Ohio St or go to finals in BIG1G tournament
Disagree I think if we beat Penn State we are definitely in no matter the outcome of BIG1G tournament
I'm with you. The data indicate it doesn't hurt those teams' chances in the round of 64 if you get that far. Half of those teams cannot make it to the round of 64. We have fans nervous about beating Penn State at the RAC on Senior Day with our bubble hopes on the line, yet a game in Dayton is no big deal?
that extra game means the jitters are out, im not saying its something you actively want, but I dont think its a negative at all for advancing and history shows its not an impediment given you are one of the last seeded teams in anyhow, you are expected to lose
Sample size isn’t large enough to be too confident. I do think there may be something to getting the nerves out
Yes, if they win. You’re not factoring the 50% that lose.
when schools like Michigan and Rutgers have high loss totals, yes it effects the overall profile and its get dinged..see Oklahoma at 16-14 as well.
Depends on how you judge NCAA success. If you want to make a deep run, it
would you rather be sitting at home though, if they took away the extra 4 bids, its 50/50 RU even makes it
Bac , you think a Penn state win and a bad loss on Thursday we are in Dayton ?
what is a bad loss..if you are in the double bye playing Iowa as our first game, its not a bad loss. Yes if we are 5 and lose to Northwestern then Dayton probably awaits....hopefully at that point
I’m on the fence. Anyone who know anything says we need to schedule harder OOC.
So then it’s not a strong resume if your loss total
no doubt in my mind that unless Michigan beats Ohio St and we lose to Penn State that we get in over them. (Provided Michigan doesn’t go to finals of BIG1G tournament)
inexcusable for them to lose at home to Central Florida thats the screw up there and also an early big 10 loss I think at home to Minnesota.
I disagree. The majority of CBB is played in "JV" conferences yet a high win total with a weak SOS is often rewarded. Two quality wins and you are in the tourney. Murray state and South Dakota have 200+ SOS ranks. Davidson is 138th and N. Texas is 155th yet all these teams have 23 or more wins and are at least on the bubble.
I know the committee doesn’t care much about big ten standings but I can’t see a scenario where they leave out Rutgers if they finish in 4th place. RU owns the tie breaker over all the other tourney teams because they beat them all.
