Is Barchi the President of a college or the owner of an NFL franchise? If hes the President of the college then he gets graded on academics first and foremost, and he has been excellent there.
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By your logic, anytime someone screws up, the entire chain of command would lose their jobs. COuld you imagine running anything like this?? Its lunacy.
If President Barchi should be held responsible for the behavior of a sick, twisted football coach, then isn't the Board of Governors also then accountable? And if the Board of Governors is to blame, doesn't culpability lie with the University as a whole? And if the whole of Rutgers University is guilty, then isn't this an indictment of our educational institutions in general? I put it to you, Marc - isn't this an indictment of our entire American society? Well, you can do whatever you want to us, but we're not going to sit here and listen to you badmouth the United States of America. Gentlemen!
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Won't argue that.
But he's President, which means he's responsible for overseeing athletics. And he hasn't done a stellar job there.
From one head to another, thanks for the parody!
No, but part of his job is to ensure that the ADs are doing their jobs.
I'm about as big a defender of Barchi as anyone on this board. But he hired Hermann, who failed at leading the athletic department. Barchi gets faulted for hiring her and from keeping her around so long. But he also gets credit for ultimately firing her (and for firing Flood too, which should have been the AD's job to do).
Let's face it, Barchi made mistakes here. If the rest of his tenure was riddled with screw-ups, this could be the straw that gets him fired. But the BOG is thrilled with the way he is managing the university, so this is a ding and they'll forget about it.
Which he has taken an active role in since purging the AD last Thanksgiving. I sincerely hope your boss acknowledges you can change for the better in your line of work.
Everyone is too blame for the massive embarrassment rutgers athletics has been for the last few years.
Looks like Rutgers may have finally got it right, however. Let's hope.
Still doesn't change my opinion Barchi has been bad for RU sports.
He realized it 3 years too late that sports is a big part of a big time university. He said
Apparently forgiveness isn't in your vocabulary. Better hope you aren't in a media based job once Donald Trump starts castrating the media.
First, this mess didn't start under Barchi. Second, in four and a half years, we've gone from Tim Pernetti, Mike Rice, and Kyle Flood (none under Barchi's watch) to Hobbs, Ash, and Pikiell (all under Barchi's watch). And people want to fire Barchi because of athletics? Only at Rutgers.
Look, don't think he should be fired and won't be, but all of this traces to his initial policy of eliminating the subsidy for athletics immediately, as in now. That is the genesis of all these problems, except probably TP who gets hired anyway. His refusal to allow money to be spent on quality people as head coaches and administrators, and his complicity in hiring an Athletic Director based primarily on diversity, are the primary causes of this debacle.
Now it appears he has finally seen the light, apparently with some some prompting from a certain state senator and perhaps the governor (Hobbs). Thankfully things are not only on the right track, but a great track. Better late than never. However, it is my belief that under a different President without his naivete towards big time athletics and his obsession with the budget, these things either never happen or are nipped in the bud.
BTW: He did a fantastic job with the med school merger and related issues. Could he have done the same in a different role than President? We will never know. At least he appears to have learned from his mistakes.
Now it appears he has finally seen the light, apparently with some some prompting from a certain state senator and perhaps the governor (Hobbs). Thankfully things are not only on the right track, but a great track. Better late than never. However, it is my belief that under a different President without his naivete towards big time athletics and his obsession with the budget, these things either never happen or are nipped in the bud.
BTW: He did a fantastic job with the med school merger and related issues. Could he have done the same in a different role than President? We will never know. At least he appears to have learned from his mistakes.
Agree to disagree, guys. Just think we'd be better off as an athletic program with a different president.
I don't give a rat's ass about RU's athletic program if our academic program is declining or sucks. Barchi has done a more than admirable job on academics. He has an AD to handle athletics. If he spent more time overseeing athletics than academics, we would be better off as a University with a different president.
Again, agree to disagree. This is a sports forum..so in this case, I'm talking about athletics.
He's really not all that well-liked amongst the faculty.
This has been a bad two years on and off the field for Rutgers football.It was a lack of attention to detail by the athletic department which now puts the new athletic director and head football coach in a very difficult position.Its a public relations nightmare even before sanctions are imposed by the NCAA.Hopefully.Delaney from the B1G will be supportive toward Rutgers.
But this is a college sports forum, so most of us care about the college too. If you are only interested in football, go root for the Giants.
Because he is making a lot of changes, and there are a lot of people uncomfortable with change (especially if it has the potential to upset their positions of power, or eliminate some of their comfort zones).
Is it a popularity contest to remain President? That is not meant to be a snarky question.
If he is improving academics and RU's standing among peer institutions, is that more important than him being well-liked?
I don't have an answer for that, and perhaps that is a better question for the Board of Governors.
Sorry. Being gay doesn't make you qualified for being AD. That's why she shouldn't have been hired in the first place. The "We Did It" crowd sure did.
We have an out and out Deputy AD who is amazing. Far more competent than her former boss. If she were to someday be AD, I'd be very happy. And it has nothing to do with her sexuality.
So go f yourself for trying to make it such.
This too--but aren't comfort zones now called "safe spaces?"
Change is hard to digest, especially with academics and professors. Professors can be very territorial and petty when things don't go their way.--Sorry Skillet Head, I don't know ye, and I am sure you are not territorial or petty. :smiley:
Exactly. Barchi is getting RU's academic reputation back to where it belongs...Top 25 in the country. I am an alumnus first and foremost, so I'm not interested in winning if my alma mater is a glorified community college at the same time.
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I do root for the Giants!!
And i do care about the college. And, again, a large part of the the reputation of a college, rightfully or wrongfully, is the athletic department. Again, this is something Barchi didn't realize until 3 years into his tenure. Lots of damage done in that time.
Yes, his academics have been great. I've said that many times.
fair assessment here. Listen Barchi not bothering to watch those tapes was pretty deplorable and indefensible but since he managed to clean house last fall he may be learning from his mistakes. I dont see where he has any culpability in this issue which should have been handled by the drug testing officer who is suppose to report this stuff to the AD. So we do not have enough information to know whether Julie was getting this information at all nor do we know exactly what the situation was with the failed drug tests, we are pure speculating.
Listen Julie was AD so she has some culpability here, how much we have no idea. However the idea that she wasnt qualified is BS, was it PC hire? maybe but Julie never talked about her personal life and it wasnt an issue here so not sure why people are hammering it to death here. Her qualifications spoke for themselves. Anyway she was handed a dud in Flood and she failed in managing that situation and for whatever reason even though she wanted him gone after 2013 it didnt happen. She isnt here anymore because she failed to control the situation period. She didnt get it done. Julie hired Sarah so lets not go crazy saying she is more competent than her boss until she has paid her dues. and I love Sarah. If Julie wasnt here there would be no Sarah
You don't hang out with professors 24/7. I do. They are incredibly set in their ways and resistant to change! Much worse than you would think.
I was at a Head of Departments meeting last year (that's what we call department chairs). A new program was being offered in the Humanities Division, which was hurting for students. The program was a great idea, but it wasn't what we had done for the last umpti-umpth years. The harumphing was audible. You could hear the leather cracking on the the elbow patches of these guys. (NOTE: I'm not at RU anymore. This isn't an RU story.)
I finally had enough and said, "Guys, we are making rotary phones here. It doesn't matter how good we make them. They can be the best rotary phones in the world. Nobody buys them any more. We have got to change." (I was channelling my inner Danny DeVito.)
It got nowhere. And now, we have layoffs. And people are stunned "that the university could be so derelict in its duty to keep student numbers up."
Enough to make you crazy.
But the big knock on Barchi isn't that he is causing too much change. It's that he's ignoring huge swaths of the University and focusing too narrowly. And it comes from folks who are long time, super pro RU folks. It's not a super big uprising or anything; but he doesn't have a huge following.
Still defending Julie I see! Wow..what else is new..SMH..
Julie should have NEVER been hired and her training at Louisville showed that she thinks like Jurich..
Editor at APP blames Barchi
http://www.app.com/story/sports/college/rutgers/2016/12/20/rutgers-fiasco-barchi/95665160/
Also, let's be real. Barchi may have screwed up athletics when he first took over, but it seems like once he realized his mistake he started to take it way more seriously. If he was that bad then he wouldn't have hired Hobbs, and then make it possible for him to hire Ash.
He came into this job focused on academics. When he realized how important athletics was to the institution and its image, he corrected himself.
He came into this job focused on academics. When he realized how important athletics was to the institution and its image, he corrected himself.
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She was very accomplished.
She was able to harass members of her women's teams without losing her job...and then
step right up / into the Rutgers ZONE!
MO
who cares what Eddleson and Carino are saying..they are tools..they want to create fake news and a fake narrative and get Barchi fired. Its all about headlines and clicks and sensationalism. Most NJ sportswriters were left with their tails between their legs when they were scooped on the Mike Rice story by national media, an embarrassment on their credibility for them..ever since they have taken a crusade against RU ..do not be fooled, NJ press still has it out for RU..**** them
Orchestrated may be a better word. Everything seems a bit like L'Ville- lite to me
'Course, that's not necessarily a condemnation, at least in the eyes of this faculty member.
