OT: Fascinating treatment for PTSD and addiction

[ashokan]

Way to show off you racist piece of human garbage.

You actually think one’s skin color has anything to do with their mental health? Truly do you think that because someone is born black or Hispanic for that reason alone they are more susceptible to PTSD?

Truly the amount of overt racism on this board is remarkable

Lol - be careful to not overreact and risk PTSD
Its well known from MANY studies that their are higher rates of PTSD among certain minorities.
Nobody says they are born or not born to be more inclined toward PTSD because of race itself
More distinction is given to environment, culture etc.

When kids grow-up abandoned by a parent, surrounded by violence, lack of resources etc then they will be more prone to certain triggers - the PTSD stress pump is primed. Unsurprisingly the people who have least PTSD are Asians.

"The lifetime prevalence of PTSD was highest among Blacks (8.7%), intermediate among Hispanics and Whites (7.0% and 7.4%) and lowest among Asians (4.0%)."

Race/ethnic differences in exposure to traumatic events, development of post-traumatic stress disorder, and treatment-seeking for post-traumatic stress disorder in the United States - PMC

To identify sources of race/ethnic differences related to post-traumatic stress disorder (PTSD), we compared trauma exposure, risk for PTSD among those exposed to trauma, and treatment-seeking among Whites, Blacks, Hispanics and Asians in the US ...

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"Among men and women, positive PTSD screening rates were significantly elevated among Black, multiracial, and Hispanic/Latinx veterans compared with White veterans. Sociodemographics, trauma exposure, stress and social support accounted for elevated positive screening rates among all racial/ethnic groups except Black men and multiracial women.

"Patterns and correlates of racial/ethnic disparities in posttraumatic stress disorder screening among recently separated veterans"

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"Asians have lower prevalence rates of probable lifetime PTSD while African Americans have higher rates as compared to non-Latino whites, even after adjusting for type and number of exposures to traumatic events, and for sociodemographic, clinical and social support factors"

"Prevalence, Risk, and Correlates of Posttraumatic Stress Disorder across Ethnic and Racial Minority Groups in the U.S"

Prevalence, Risk, and Correlates of Posttraumatic Stress Disorder across Ethnic and Racial Minority Groups in the U.S - PMC

We assess whether posttraumatic stress disorder (PTSD) varies in prevalence, diagnostic criteria endorsement, and type and frequency of traumatic events (PTEs) among a nationally representative U.S. sample of 5071 non-Latino whites, 3264 Latinos, ...

pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

 

[yessir321]

Keep moving the goal post. I didn’t say they didn’t have med schools or hospitals. But we are talking about experimental treatments. But you keep at it. Must be a race thing. I’m glad you are comfortable going to Mexico for experimental medical treatments. I wouldn’t go to parts US for experimental medical treatments. I hope you feel better about yourself for being how accepting you are. Proud of you bro.

I mean you can twist it however you like but no one was moving goalposts, YOU are the one who brought up experimental medicine not licensed in the US. I’m just pointing out exactly what the reasons you feel the way you do are.

Of course there’s parts of the US you wouldn’t go to for treatment, they’re not majority white there😉👍🏾

 

[voltz99]

Believe it or not. A lot of the top research doctors in Europe are not white. They are there because education, funding and resources. When I worked with my oncologist , he often cited research in Europe. I am biased toward more developed countries with a focus on education, research and strong economy. I hope you get the help you need.

How about the USA?

 

[voltz99]

Way to show off you racist piece of human garbage.

You actually think one’s skin color has anything to do with their mental health? Truly do you think that because someone is born black or Hispanic for that reason alone they are more susceptible to PTSD?

Truly the amount of overt racism on this board is remarkable

Were his stats wrong?

Asians are also more likely to make more and graduate college. Two parents that give a chit privilege.

 

[yessir321]

Were his stats wrong?

Asians are also more likely to make more and graduate college. Two parents that give a chit privilege.

2 parents that give a chit has nothing to do with Race

This board man.. wow

 

[jtung230]

I mean you can twist it however you like but no one was moving goalposts, YOU are the one who brought up experimental medicine not licensed in the US. I’m just pointing out exactly what the reasons you feel the way you do are.

Of course there’s parts of the US you wouldn’t go to for treatment, they’re not majority white there😉👍🏾

You are really seeking attention here. OP said the only place to get treatment is in Mexico. Your second comment is probably the dumbest. Can you tell me where in the US where whites are not the majority? The best hospitals in the US are usually in big cities where the demographics are more diverse. Get over yourself.

 

[yessir321]

You are really seeking attention here. OP said the only place to get treatment is in Mexico. Your second comment is probably the dumbest. Can you tell me where in the US where whites are not the majority? The best hospitals in the US are usually in big cities where the demographics are more diverse. Get over yourself.

No one’s seaking attention bud. OP doesn’t know what he’s talking about. Ibogaine has been around for 100’s of years and is an AFRICAN PLANT. But of course you morons just listened to Rogan like a group of sheep and thought ‘oh yea, I trust this comedian and his guests on medical advice over Doctors’.

we’ve also done studies on Ibogaine, research was mostly ABANDONED because the effects to the heart were so great and caused people to go into cardiac arrest. And of course Rogan brings it up to his group of moronic followers who will listen to anything they want to here, not what they need to hear. And yes, the irony in him and his followers being scared of the vax because of heart issues that are unfounded, while suggesting this drug that is KNOWN to cause heart issues is among the most hypocritical things I’ve ever seen, particularly when treatment exists like psilocybin and LSD that do not have these same health risks. Let’s get THOSE legalized for treatment before we go into the world of Ibogaine where anyone who tires it must take large amounts of Magnesium to sustain the heart…. Flaming morons who have no idea what they’re talking about

I’m calling YOU out and few others who just couldnt wait to show off how racist you are. I can tell you all kinds of places in the United States that arent majority white, I live in one of them. Furthermore I’m 40 min south of maybe the top research hospital in the United States (Johns Hopkins) that is nestled in a city that’s 65% black… Statistically per the census come 2045 whites will no longer be the majority population of this country. Get over yourself you piece of sh*t racist

Understand, the things you’ve said on this thread, if you didn’t have your internet anonymity would land you in your companies HR office.

You’re not fooling anyone white hood

 

[yessir321]

Your “same part of the brain” argument shows your lack of depth in this subject. You’ve used them, great, you clearly don’t know how they work on more than a practical level.

Psilocybin is a serotonin agonist. Ibogaine targets serotonin but also dopamine and glutamate, allowing multiple neural pathways to reset/rewire, something Psilocybin doesn’t do. It also interacts with opioid receptors, making it the more favorable addiction treatment. Thus the reason they are testing Ibogaine analogues, synthetic compounds that hopefully bring the benefit and leave behind the cardiac risks. To say that psilocybin would “100%” make this unnecessary is just factually wrong.

Jesus dude you can reset your dopamine with a search on social media. High levels of Glutamate cause permanent brain damage.

I will say this man, if there were no heart risks, I’m all for it. The fact that we have literally a hundred years of clinicals on Ibogaine (which I posted the artical on) and the global consensus is that it is such high risk for heart failure that it’s now a Mexican street drug says everything we need to know.

What p*sees me off is when you have podcasters like Rogan who have no medical training whatsoever making medical suggestions. The amount of people Joe Rogan personally is responsible for their death by convincing them they didn’t need a vaccine is hard to calculate. We don’t take anything that moron suggests seriously in the health field

What do you work in a rehab center as the front desk receptionist?

 

[newell138]

Jesus dude you can reset your dopamine with a search on social media. High levels of Glutamate cause permanent brain damage.

I will say this man, if there were no heart risks, I’m all for it. The fact that we have literally a hundred years of clinicals on Ibogaine (which I posted the artical on) and the global consensus is that it is such high risk for heart failure that it’s now a Mexican street drug says everything we need to know.

What p*sees me off is when you have podcasters like Rogan who have no medical training whatsoever making medical suggestions. The amount of people Joe Rogan personally is responsible for their death by convincing them they didn’t need a vaccine is hard to calculate. We don’t take anything that moron suggests seriously in the health field

What do you work in a rehab center as the front desk receptionist?

you may want to look at some type of medication to relax a little more. You seem quite angry.
Now Joe Rogan is responsible for people dying from Covid because they didn’t get a vaccine that doesn’t really work? Silly
Again ill remind you that Rogan was just the media agent for these experts to discuss the concept of looking into this as a treatment with more studies and clinical trials.

 

[yessir321]

you may want to look at some type of medication to relax a little more. You seem quite angry.
Now Joe Rogan is responsible for people dying from Covid because they didn’t get a vaccine that doesn’t really work? Silly
Again ill remind you that Rogan was just the media agent for these experts to discuss the concept of looking into this as a treatment with more studies and clinical trials.

Buddy I have a personal friend who died from Covid 19 at 47 years old who was a Joe Rogan Loyalist and swore up and down the vax was a hoax. Yea, it PISSES ME OFF when people cite Rogan for medical advice. You wanna listen to him about Culture, religion, politics, UFC, go for it, I listen to some. But he’s a flaming moron when it comes to healthcare.

But hey, if you’re the type to buy into that I think you should listen to Rogan for medical advice.

Rogan wasn’t a media agent for that at all, he actively talked about how he thought the vax was bs.

My friend was 47 years old, father of 2 teenagers. On his death bed confessed he WISHED he had gotten vaxxed, doctors after the fact talked about how his immune system was strong enough that with the vax there’s a 99% chance he’d still be here. Vaccines save lives.

But hey I think you should totally go out with the intention of proving me wrong, try Ibogaine yourself and report back your results. Oh wait, you wouldn’t need it yourself? You just wanna suggest something with the kind of heart risks it has for others but won’t try it yourself? Got it..

We don’t pursue Mexican street drugs for addiction treatment while abandoning the advice of western medicine.. unless of course you follow rogan

 

[rurichdog]

Buddy I have a personal friend who died from Covid 19 at 47 years old who was a Joe Rogan Loyalist and swore up and down the vax was a hoax. Yea, it PISSES ME OFF when people cite Rogan for medical advice. You wanna listen to him about Culture, religion, politics, UFC, go for it, I listen to some. But he’s a flaming moron when it comes to healthcare.

But hey, if you’re the type to buy into that I think you should listen to Rogan for medical advice.

Rogan wasn’t a media agent for that at all, he actively talked about how he thought the vax was bs.

My friend was 47 years old, father of 2 teenagers. On his death bed confessed he WISHED he had gotten vaxxed, doctors after the fact talked about how his immune system was strong enough that with the vax there’s a 99% chance he’d still be here. Vaccines save lives.

But hey I think you should totally go out with the intention of proving me wrong, try Ibogaine yourself and report back your results. Oh wait, you wouldn’t need it yourself? You just wanna suggest something with the kind of heart risks it has for others but won’t try it yourself? Got it..

We don’t pursue Mexican street drugs for addiction treatment while abandoning the advice of western medicine.. unless of course you follow rogan

You may have PTSD from the death of your friend. I suggest you seek help for that, especially those modern pharmaceuticals. Watch out for the side effects that may include suicidal thoughts though; wouldn't want you offing yourself instead of contracting a heart murmur...

 

[newell138]

Buddy I have a personal friend who died from Covid 19 at 47 years old who was a Joe Rogan Loyalist and swore up and down the vax was a hoax. Yea, it PISSES ME OFF when people cite Rogan for medical advice. You wanna listen to him about Culture, religion, politics, UFC, go for it, I listen to some. But he’s a flaming moron when it comes to healthcare.

But hey, if you’re the type to buy into that I think you should listen to Rogan for medical advice.

Rogan wasn’t a media agent for that at all, he actively talked about how he thought the vax was bs.

My friend was 47 years old, father of 2 teenagers. On his death bed confessed he WISHED he had gotten vaxxed, doctors after the fact talked about how his immune system was strong enough that with the vax there’s a 99% chance he’d still be here. Vaccines save lives.

But hey I think you should totally go out with the intention of proving me wrong, try Ibogaine yourself and report back your results. Oh wait, you wouldn’t need it yourself? You just wanna suggest something with the kind of heart risks it has for others but won’t try it yourself? Got it..

We don’t pursue Mexican street drugs for addiction treatment while abandoning the advice of western medicine.. unless of course you follow rogan

who says the vax would have saved his life? It doesn’t prevent you from getting it nor does it prevent transmission. As soon as you made this a racial thing you lost credibility

 

[yessir321]

who says the vax would have saved his life? It doesn’t prevent you from getting it nor does it prevent transmission. As soon as you made this a racial thing you lost credibility

The doctor, literally the doctor said that if he had the vax with his immune system there was about a 99% chance he would survive. I didn't make it a racial thing at all, that was the posters who brought up different races and places that are acceptable for healthcare.

You can keep listening to Rogan and RFK about health over Doctors, if you wanna live in denial until it's too late be my guest.

 

[yessir321]

You may have PTSD from the death of your friend. I suggest you seek help for that, especially those modern pharmaceuticals. Watch out for the side effects that may include suicidal thoughts though; wouldn't want you offing yourself instead of contracting a heart murmur...

Yea trying to make light of a friends death is pretty sick you ignorant f*ck. Particularly when that death was entirely preventable by not listening to the source that's brought up in this thread about healthcare.

If ya'll wanna deny modern healthcare and live in a world of Aaron Rogers medicine, be my guest... Let us know how that works out for you. Unfortunately my friend learned that lesson personally and actually made videos posted online from his hospital bed talking about how STUPID he was to not get the vaccine. Dude went kinda viral actually, you can probably still find his videos online if you look for them.

Additionally, Murmurs are a GUARENTEE without Magnesium when you take Ibogaine, this has been proven, and magnesium only works SOME of the time. Cardiac Arrest and Heart attacks occur at alarmingly high rates. It's for this reason most research was abandoned on the subject and it's been relegated to a Mexican street drug that you all want to now look at as legitimate because Rogan said something, despite it being around and studied for over a century... Idiots, sheep.

No, you're never going to convince me that there are not alternate treatments including but not limited to LSD and Psilocybin that can be used in treatment.

Particularly as well when Ibogaine is also proven to not mix well with other drugs and causes even further complications.

But hey, your favorite comedian and podcaster is talking about it so F*CK them Doctors right?